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    (Original post by LovepreetDhillon)
    The Government don't introduce a bill for a week so we all go on a rampage as the worlds ending...no. Yes, there has been a lack of bills for the last week. However there have been a number of bills submitted in the past days and over this parliament. Also, can I say, you do not have to submit bills just to fulfil your manifesto pledges, they can be delivered without submitting bills.
    How else do the Government deliver its pledges? Through statements... The only Gov statements we've seen have been inaccurate and poorly researched.
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    Can I ask the question of the proposers, if they intend to form a government should this VoNC be passed? If so, which parties will be involved?
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    (Original post by barnetlad)
    Can I ask the question of the proposers, if they intend to form a government should this VoNC be passed? If so, which parties will be involved?
    Conservatives and UKIP obviously.

    Might have to bring in the Liberals if both lose seats or don't make the ideal gains. Obviously up to the powers above though...
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    (Original post by cranbrook_aspie)
    This is a model parliament. Emphasis on model. I'm sorry but most people have other commitments and don't take it too seriously. Most of the time, you're not going to get high-quality, well-researched legislation, and most of the time, you're not going to get a Cabinet every single member of which has the time to spend a lot of time debating. It's just not going to happen. People have lives. And besides, we all know this has only been proposed because Life_peer is butthurt that he's not Prime Minister.
    You'd be humbled if you were present four years ago. The current output is pathetic compared to what we used to see around here (especially when Conservatives were in power). If you're not prepared to play the game properly, i.e. put some actual effort into research of government legislation, step aside, because we are.

    I don't need virtual titles to inflate my ego and self-confidence. If you resign by the end of this week and make way for CON/UKIP, I'll let Nigel Farage MEP be the PM.
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    (Original post by jamestg)
    Conservatives and UKIP obviously.

    Might have to bring in the Liberals if both lose seats or don't make the ideal gains. Obviously up to the powers above though...
    Although I am not a proposer, I foresee it being a right wing government; however- discussions would have to take place after the VONC, and nothing is set in stone; as obviously discussions are needed!
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    (Original post by Life_peer)
    I only asked you whether you had confidence in the Government, to which you failed to even reply (which was rather impolite, if I may add). Don't lie, please.
    Oh, I apologise. The PM said 'Do we have confidence in the Government', to which I replied (or at least intended to; I had a response written out) that I wouldn't second but was undecided on how I'd vote.

    On checking, I didn't send the reply - I apologise.
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    (Original post by barnetlad)
    Can I ask the question of the proposers, if they intend to form a government should this VoNC be passed? If so, which parties will be involved?
    Which parties are involved in the new government depends entirely on the negotiations that take place, we could see this rehashed with the greens or socialists, we could see labour running it solo, con SOC, con kip, con grn, con lib, kip lib, SOC green lib, SOC con kip, SOC con grn SOC grn con etc etc

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    Well I have to commend the Opposition for their thoroughness and also Life_peer for this standout simile:

    (Original post by Life_peer)
    Aye. We've been holding this off as much as we could, hoping to see results, but there's been little activity, half of your output withdrawn, the other half disappointingly incorrect, and your people disappear like money during a Friday night… I'm sure you aren't going to admit it, but even compared to lefty governments two years ago, you have to realise this isn't good at all. :dontknow:


    In general though, people disappearing has been a problem within the Government over this term, but I think that a MONC for this, among other reasons, is wrong. For members of the Right to be turning down going out with friends to draft a Bill, for example, is all well and good, but it also indicates that some on the Right take this game a little too seriously and need to gain some sense of perspective. If someone has got RL issues etc, do we honestly expect them to post in here? No and those who criticise people in this position are wrong to do so. I'm sure that other members of the Government better equipped than I will be able to refute the MONC point by point, but on this issue, I do think that those proposing the MONC have got the wrong perspective on things.
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    (Original post by barnetlad)
    Can I ask the question of the proposers, if they intend to form a government should this VoNC be passed? If so, which parties will be involved?
    Nothing is set into stone yet but I'd personally approach UKIP and Greens.
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    (Original post by TheDefiniteArticle)
    Oh, I apologise. The PM said 'Do we have confidence in the Government', to which I replied (or at least intended to; I had a response written out) that I wouldn't second but was undecided on how I'd vote.

    On checking, I didn't send the reply - I apologise.
    Okay, no hard feelings.
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    (Original post by Life_peer)
    Nothing is set into stone yet but I'd personally approach UKIP and Greens.
    Are you sure about that? I'd have the Liberals in, instead of them.
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    (Original post by jamestg)
    Are you sure about that? I'd have the Liberals in, instead of them.
    It's always a little disconcerting when a member of a party publicly disagrees with their leader. Those proposing this motion may attack the Government, but with confusion among the ranks of the Right, such as this, would an incoming Government made up of parties from the Right be any better? If your statement's anything to go by, no.
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    (Original post by Life_peer)
    You'd be humbled if you were present four years ago. The current output is pathetic compared to what we used to see around here (especially when Conservatives were in power). If you're not prepared to play the game properly, i.e. put some actual effort into research of government legislation, step aside, because we are.

    I'm don't need virtual titles to inflate my ego and self-confidence. If you resign by the end of this week and make way for CON/UKIP, I'll let Nigel Farage MEP be the PM.
    Oh yes, sorry for being mentally ill and sometimes wanting to have absolute nothing to do with this place. Sorry for many of us giving a **** about our RL stuff, you know, those things like A Levels and degrees? I thought you would know, you're degree level yourself.

    This is all well and good, my dear sir, but side note: you wouldn't be launching a MoNC if UKIP and the Tories were much better at coalition negotiations. Every party does them at election time!
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    (Original post by jamestg)
    Are you sure about that? I'd have the Liberals in, instead of them.
    You obviously don't know our Liberals yet. :laugh: I'll tell you a few interesting stories tomorrow.
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    (Original post by Life_peer)
    You'd be humbled if you were present four years ago. The current output is pathetic compared to what we used to see around here (especially when Conservatives were in power). If you're not prepared to play the game properly, i.e. put some actual effort into research of government legislation, step aside, because we are.

    I'm don't need virtual titles to inflate my ego and self-confidence. If you resign by the end of this week and make way for CON/UKIP, I'll let Nigel Farage MEP be the PM.
    That'll be why, over January and part of February, our Chancellor, who worked 90-hour work weeks, spent all of his extremely limited free time on the Budget. You may think the research was dodgy, but you cannot argue he didn't do it. It's not that we're not prepared to 'play the game properly' - it's that, in some cases, we can't. And don't pretend you can. The only Tories I see debating regularly - no, scratch that, at all - are you, JD, Rakas and Financier.

    That's surprising, given that a week ago you were whining in the AtGovt thread about how the right has such a disadvantage and we should all step aside because of that and the Conservatives really really should be in government and it's really really not fair because the nasty electorate didn't vote the way they should have done.
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    (Original post by Airmed)
    Oh yes, sorry for being mentally ill and sometimes wanting to have absolute nothing to do with this place. Sorry for many of us giving a **** about our RL stuff, you know, those things like A Levels and degrees? I thought you would know, you're degree level yourself.

    This is all well and good, my dear sir, but side note: you wouldn't be launching a MoNC if UKIP and the Tories were much better at coalition negotiations. Every party does them at election time!
    Are you suggesting like one of your colleagues that 21>23?

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    (Original post by cranbrook_aspie)
    That'll be why, over January and part of February, our Chancellor, who worked 90-hour work weeks, spent all of his extremely limited free time on the Budget. You may think the research was dodgy, but you cannot argue he didn't do it. It's not that we're not prepared to 'play the game properly' - it's that, in some cases, we can't. And don't pretend you can. The only Tories I see debating regularly - no, scratch that, at all - are you, JD, Rakas and Financier.

    That's surprising, given that a week ago you were whining in the AtGovt thread about how the right has such a disadvantage and we should all step aside because of that and the Conservatives really really should be in government and it's really really not fair because the nasty electorate didn't vote the way they should have done.
    Which indicates that this MONC is nothing more than a shameless attempt to grab power and wrongly defy the will of the electorate.
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    (Original post by Airmed)
    This is all well and good, my dear sir, but side note: you wouldn't be launching a MoNC if UKIP and the Tories were willing to team up with incompatible parties and sell their souls by betraying their values at coalition negotiations. Every party does them at election time!
    Fixed that for you. It's a simple issue of four parties on the Left versus two parties on the Right.
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    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    Are you suggesting like one of your colleagues that 21>23?

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    No, I'm suggesting that if you'd played the game right it would be Con-UKIP-Liberal or Con-UKIP-Green/Socialists. I'm not an idiot, JD, contrary to your beliefs of me. I can count. :rolleyes:
 
 
 
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