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    Hey guys, me again!

    I have a quick question.

    I finished sixth form back in 2012 and I either didn't speak to teachers or the ones who taught me have now retired and seem untraceable, Is there any other way I can get a reference? Or is it possible to complete my form without one?
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    (Original post by Corey O'Connor)
    Hey guys, me again!

    I have a quick question.

    I finished sixth form back in 2012 and I either didn't speak to teachers or the ones who taught me have now retired and seem untraceable, Is there any other way I can get a reference? Or is it possible to complete my form without one?
    You can get a reference from someone else who knows you well - ideally someone who knows your academic capabilities (if you have studied since 2012) but if not your line manager from work. NB it can't be a family member.

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    (Original post by Corey O'Connor)
    Hey guys, me again!

    I have a quick question.

    I finished sixth form back in 2012 and I either didn't speak to teachers or the ones who taught me have now retired and seem untraceable, Is there any other way I can get a reference? Or is it possible to complete my form without one?
    Your school will have a copy of your original reference, on the assumption that they do what many schools do and prepare a reference for all students in case they apply for university. The Head of Sixth Form should be able to co-ordinate getting hold of this, regardless of whether s/he knew you personally. It's an admin job.
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    (Original post by Carnationlilyrose)
    Your school will have a copy of your original reference, on the assumption that they do what many schools do and prepare a reference for all students in case they apply for university. The Head of Sixth Form should be able to co-ordinate getting hold of this, regardless of whether s/he knew you personally. It's an admin job.

    Even if I haven't been in that school/sixth form for nearly 4 years and bearing in mind my old school was knocked down and a new one built, plus the fact that's is completely new teachers and heads that haven't never spoken to me in their life.

    (Original post by Origami Bullets)
    You can get a reference from someone else who knows you well - ideally someone who knows your academic capabilities (if you have studied since 2012) but if not your line manager from work. NB it can't be a family member
    I haven't been in my job that long and I don't really get along with the managers at work, so asking them puts me in a really hard place. Does it have to be someone in a high position? Or could I have a work collogue who knows me academically?
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    (Original post by Corey O'Connor)
    Even if I haven't been in that school/sixth form for nearly 4 years and bearing in mind my old school was knocked down and a new one built, plus the fact that's is completely new teachers and heads that haven't never spoken to me in their life.
    School records are kept regardless of physical buildings and changes in personnel. Clearly you don't want to bother, though, so ok.
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    (Original post by Carnationlilyrose)
    School records are kept regardless of physical buildings and changes in personnel. Clearly you don't want to bother, though, so ok.
    Don't get me wrong I appreciate the help and advice, but I'm not feeling the sarcastic nature of your reply.
    I myself suffer with quite crippling anxiety, so simple tasks of just calling up my school or paying them a visit isn't easy for people like myself.
    I trust what you say believe me on that note, but you can't fail to see my distrust in this.

    I was a shy kid and didn't talk to anyone and I was never a teachers favourite meaning none of them gave me the time of day
    or got to the point to even learn my name.

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    What I find hard to understand is how can someone who doesn't even know me let alone academically give me a reference?
    Isn't that the point of a reference?
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    I think you can only send one without a reference if the universities don't require one. Therefore you could contact them directly and explain your situation although I can see how calling up could induce anxiety.
    I left sixth form 2 years ago and contacted my old business teacher for a reference, although we'd had an ok relationship it was still difficult. Could you email your old sixth form and that way you don't directly speak to them?
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    (Original post by Corey O'Connor)
    Don't get me wrong I appreciate the help and advice, but I'm not feeling the sarcastic nature of your reply.
    I myself suffer with quite crippling anxiety, so simple tasks of just calling up my school or paying them a visit isn't easy for people like myself.
    I trust what you say believe me on that note, but you can't fail to see my distrust in this.

    I was a shy kid and didn't talk to anyone and I was never a teachers favourite meaning none of them gave me the time of day
    or got to the point to even learn my name.

    SO

    What I find hard to understand is how can someone who doesn't even know me let alone academically give me a reference?
    Isn't that the point of a reference?
    Teachers are often required to write references for all of their students, regardless of their quietness or whatever. They can't refuse to write one just 'because he never said anything'. If it was the policy of the school you were at to write references ahead of time in case of a later application to university, then the teachers would have written one regardless of how difficult it might have been for them to find the material. It might have been a very bland reference, but it would be a reference all the same. Many of us have made bricks without straw out of the least promising candidates. Since you have no one else you can ask, a bland reference is better than no reference at all, so you should find out if it exists. If it doesn't, then you will have to contact the universities directly and ask them what they would suggest. If you cannot face doing either of these things, then perhaps taking a year out and getting a job where you can establish a relationship with the management, so that you can apply next year with a referee you know is a plan to consider. It is worth mentioning that as the deadline for equal consideration has passed now, you might be as well waiting until next year if the course you are thinking of is competitive.
 
 
 
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