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    A Vote of No Confidence has been called against the TSR Government.

    Following a 3 day discussion period, there will now be a 4 day vote in the Division Lobby as per the Guidance Document. If the result of the poll is in favour of the motion of no confidence then a period of 7 days shall be allowed for other parties to form a new government (using all the usual regulations for it).If the result of the poll does not favour the motion of no confidence then usual business will resume in the House of Commons.


    Motion of No Confidence
    Motion of No Confidence in Her Majesty's Government
    Proposed by: Life_peer MP (CON)
    Seconded by: Jammy Duel MP (CON), mobbsy91 MP (CON), Nigel Farage MEP MP (UKIP), Unown Uzer MP (UKIP)

    This House has no confidence in Her Majesty’s Government.

    Since the beginning of this year, the Government have managed to produce only two bills, one of which failed and the other, previously drafted for and proposed within another MHoC, managed to dramatically compromise the operation of our security services, and one disastrous and technically flawed budget.

    Prior to that, in the month of December 2015, the Government attempted yet another failed House of Lords reform, passed a fairly minor bill to ‘protect’ negligent customers from energy companies, recklessly permitted trade unions to use unsafe and obscure online voting, and gave asexuality ‘the same legal recognition and protection’ as other trendy forms of sexual behaviour while neglecting and discriminating against the other exotic permutations of sexual attributes.

    In November 2015, right when the Government were fresh after they had won the general election and formed their coalition, they only managed to create a single bill which has passed only by a hair, having been labeled ‘a travesty to democracy’ even by some of their own.

    At the same time, various members of the Government proposed a couple of PMB and arguably many needless constitutional amendments, giving the impression of a severe lack of unity further indicated by their very low engagement in debates and members who had simply disappeared. Two of their seats held by the Liberal party are now highlighted for removal and the number would have been higher had the current Speaker started the review where the previous one left off.

    In total, three and a half months since the general election, more than halfway into the current term, the Government's output of mere six bills has been surpassed by single parties with fewer members such as UKIP, Greens, or even Socialists.

    Even worse, the Government don't act on their promises to the electorate – the very promises they've been elected upon! TSR Liberal party have addressed only two out of their quite specific twelve election pledges and TSR Labour party have been even a bit less successful – about two out of fourteen!

    Moreover, the contents of the statement of intent from the Department of the Environment, Energy and Climate Change from 18 November 2015 were not only flawed but have also not been put into law to date.

    Moving on to the much postponed budget after the former Liberal leader and Chancellor had simply disappeared, this has been a term of two Chancellors. We've had an absent Chancellor (a state that was maintained for a month before finally the Government managed to replace him), and we've had an inept Chancellor (who at least finally resigned), and a financially inept Government as a whole. Sadly, this financial ineptitude has not been limited to the Chancellor, but is a common symptom within the entire Government, with arbitrary figures often used and cases where expensive pieces have had no costing at all. He, and the leadership of the Government, appear to let Government items be released without even running a sanity check on the figures used.

    Perhaps the greatest example of this is the SoI from the former Rt. Hon. SoS for Defence, an item that was withdrawn in less than twenty four hours with figures apparently pulled out of a hat to make it look like nice things are being done. It included spending almost half of the foreign aid budget, misappropriated into the Defence budget to try to hide a significant nominal funding cut, on the Afghan government, doubling their budget with a sum of money that is greater than 25% of their GDP, and to do this the government intended to cut our nuclear budget not only to zero, but to approximately minus six hundred percent.

    Further, it more than doubled the annual budget of MI5 and GCHQ, further highlighting how little research the government does, but this problem goes further. After withdrawing the SoI, the Government did not go and reconsider the figures in any real detail, in fact all they did was cram the very same SoI into the budget with all figures slashed by 90% and parts of it with no support from the former SoS for Defence; this along with a number of other arbitrary figures apparently pulled out of thin air for the budget.

    The issue goes the other way as well; it's not just arbitrary costing that needs dealing with, it is no costing at all. The former SoS for Health who has recently resigned published her own SoI, one that not only neglected to consider changes made in the budget, but failed to include any costing at all despite including projects costing several billion pounds, the only alternative being that the SoS in fact wishes to cut other services, which is perhaps even worse.

    Beyond this we've had a Chancellor often incapable of accurate costing, with there being at least two notable cases beyond the budget. The first major error was with the original Alternative Tax Act which stated revenues of £83bn, however a more in-depth look has shown this figure to, in reality, be at least double that figure with a lower bound of £165bn, and up to five times with an absolute upper bound of £415bn. This is only compounded when we look at the amendment also put forwards by the former Chancellor, once again severely underestimating the revenues from another regressive tax designed to replace it, with the figure put forwards by the Government only covering residential properties, and not extending the costing to commercial and industrial lands. The Government have also promised to spend £56.1bn on environment with no plans on where that it going to come from.

    We see in this Government poor research and financial irresponsibility. We see numbers being randomly plucked out of the air, severe underestimates from poor research, and even a lack of costing. We've seen a Chancellor who has difficulty with even some of the most basic concepts, a Chancellor who fails to accept when they are objectively wrong, a Chancellor who was simply not fit for his job.

    In short, the recently most active member of the Government appears to have been their weakest link, but he wasn't the only weak link. Only a very minor portion of the Cabinet is active in debates and even fewer have released a bill or a Statement of Intent. They lack defence, education, foreign and social policies, the Foreign Secretary's only work has been a statement calling for Britain to leave the Commonwealth, the former Defence Secretary couldn't even defend his own and the new Secretary has a history of absurdity, with motions calling for the opening of our borders to the deployment of our armed forces into Syria for the purpose of protecting some birds and an archaeological site!

    These countless failings and errors are almost unprecedented, perhaps saved only by the two subsequent disasters last term, and we believe it should change.

    Unfortunately, they are simply not up to the job.



    Notes: The number of bills doesn't include those expired or withdrawn, in other words those currently in the Division Lobby.


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    NB. In the interests of fairness, I will not be voting on this motion
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    Aye, let's move on and try something different. There is always a way back, you know.
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    *puts sarcastic hat on* Aye, what a fantastic motion, wholly agree with everything it says. *takes sarcastic hat off*
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    And now we wait
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    Aye

    Can't say I'm surprised the government provided few rebuttals of any form
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    Ehhhhhhh I'm not sure.
    I'd be interested in a new coalition but one which realises that Bourgeois democracy is democracy of pompous phrases, solemn words, exuberant promises and the high-sounding slogans of freedom and equality. But, in fact, it screens the non-freedom and inferiority of women, the non-freedom and inferiority of the toilers and exploited.
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    (Original post by DMcGovern)
    Ehhhhhhh I'm not sure.
    I'd be interested in a new coalition but not one which realises that Bourgeois democracy is democracy of pompous phrases, solemn words, exuberant promises and the high-sounding slogans of freedom and equality. But, in fact, it screens the non-freedom and inferiority of women, the non-freedom and inferiority of the toilers and exploited.
    Hear hear!

    Vote Aye for KipSoc
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    (Original post by toronto353)
    NB. In the interests of fairness, I will not be voting on this motion
    If we lose by one vote....xD
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    (Original post by nebelbon)
    Hear hear!

    Vote Aye for KipSoc
    I'm actually tempted to now
    I've had no communication with my party so I feel like I should wait
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    (Original post by DMcGovern)
    I'm actually tempted to now
    I've had no communication with my party so I feel like I should wait
    Good about being in UKIP is the lack of whips or need for comms on votes
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    (Original post by nebelbon)
    Good about being in UKIP is the lack of whips or need for comms on votes
    Well technically we don't need to and we don't on normal votes, but I feel like I should on such an important issue.
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    (Original post by DMcGovern)
    Well technically we don't need to and we don't on normal votes, but I feel like I should on such an important issue.
    Follow your heart to the purple and red revolution!

    We could fly this modified anarchist flag outside No10.

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    (Original post by nebelbon)
    Follow your heart to the purple and red revolution!

    We could fly this modified anarchist flag outside No10.

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    Lol looks good although we're not that much of an anarchist party, although we are more libertarian than other parties.
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    (Original post by DMcGovern)
    Lol looks good although we're not that much of an anarchist party, although we are more libertarian than other parties.
    Hmm how about:



    Including the lib soc star?
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    (Original post by DMcGovern)
    Lol looks good although we're not that much of an anarchist party, although we are more libertarian than other parties.
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    (Original post by cranbrook_aspie)
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    Yeahhh - forgot to mention that. I meant in general, with TDA being the odd one out. We have common aims but encourage individuality and party democracy.
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    (Original post by DMcGovern)
    Yeahhh - forgot to mention that. I meant in general, with TDA being the odd one out. We have common aims but encourage individuality and party democracy.
    Encourage individuality, except all the time where the state should command everything

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    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    Encourage individuality, except all the time where the state should command everything

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    "Under socialism all will govern in turn and will soon become accustomed to no one governing."
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    (Original post by cranbrook_aspie)
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    PRSOM xD
 
 
 
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