How Lenient is Imperial With Conditions?

BJH1412 how the hell did you do that? lol
i have a feeling i may have missed the 7 for my UCL maths course as well. that means im left with imperial, and i need 38 pts my IBC has written about special circumstances for physics and psych (we got screwed very badly for psych) but i dunno what difference that would make. i got an email saying that anyone who misses their offer will be automatically reconsidered. but god knows if that is the case for everyone... Imperial isn't exactly unpopular...

so yes, bottom line, im dying to know the same thing. i mean, is there anyone here who got into Imperial by begging on result day?

another thing is though, out results come out way before A levels. so do you think they would reconsider us when we phone them up in july, or do you think they will tell us to wait until A levels results come out?

Basically I have a very bad feeling in the pitt of my stomach that I messed up my exams (well, not 'messed up' exactly, just didn't do as well as I could have) and am just wondering how narrowly you have to miss your conditions for the admissions officers to still consider you. I'm referring specifically to biology (zoology)... I know it's not the most popular subject in Imperial but it hasn't gone on Extra either, which I'm sure is not a good sign in terms of how many places there are left. If, say, I end up getting a 36 or 37 instead of a 38 (IB points), how likely-ish do you think would it be that they'd still offer me a place?

Has anyone on here missed their conditions and still been accepted? And do you call them and grovel immediately after you get your results, or do you just assume they'll reconsider you automatically?

Out of personal experience, I'd have to say that even though LSE makes lower offers than Imperial, I have seen many people rejected by LSE (and not Imperial) despite the fact that they had the French bac with international option (which is probably one of the best high school qualification one can have) and EXCELLENT grades.

Was I flaunting my French bac in my previous post? And can you argue that A-level students work more than IB students? (According to what I saw, IB and A-level study pretty much the same thing but IB students have more subjects.)
Since when A-levels are a gold standard exam??? When I look at your maths papers I laugh and when I talk to the students from my school studying at Imperial, all they can tell me is how bad in Maths the British students are and how they went from working up to 20 hours per WE to only a couple of hours. Here is a British student recognising the superiority of our maths: http://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/showpost.php?p=7618001&postcount=88
If you want to talk about the other subjects, I'd be glad to pwn you anytime with my knowledge of British and American literature, my history, my physics or my biology (and why not even Further Maths!)
(At least now you can accuse me of flaunting my French bac which I have a right)

education is free in french universities and it turns out to be quite crappy... (unless you go to a prepa and an engineering school which are sometimes more elitist than Oxbridge)
for my change of offer, i asked my referee. im doing the french bac with international option and the offer they've made me is unreasonably high. i think it happens often because the unis dont really know how the french bac works and how hard (or not) it is. im still waiting for a reply though

Imperial College wants me to get 15 on the french bac with 16 in Maths, FM, Physics and Chemistry. The grades in the science subjects are of my level. I should be able to get them and I do understand why they ask these marks. However, getting 15 on the whole bac will be really hard especially since im on the International Option, have 8 extra hours of classes in english per week and get much more exams at the end of the year. Also, there's no justification is asking me to get this grade because it means that I would need excellent grades in Philosophy, Litterature, History, Geography, Biology... all of which are not very relevant to the course and not asked to be taken by British students. How will the university view it if i told them they have given me an offer which might be to high for me and ask them to diminish the 15 overall to a 14 (which is much easier I think)? Is it worth trying or are they used to not doing that sort of thing?

Lowering the offer to 14 for you would be unfair to the A-levels students, who are still hard-pressed to get AAB.

Imperial is popular with internationals and you are hardly the first French guy with the French bac banging its doors. From past experience they have probably found that a 15 on French bac international option is equitable to an AAB on A levels and that's why they are asking you the grades. They compare how the students with different qualifications perform on the course and make parallels between qualifications. I don't know why you are so thick in the skull that the French bac is so much tougher than A-levels when in fact it is not. The offer that you have gotten from them makes this line of thinking obviously false. Whilst I personally wish you all the best that you meet your offers, you should not pin your hopes high at all. Lowering the offer to 14 for you would be unfair to the A-levels students, who are still hard-pressed to get AAB.

May I ask what happened? I do physics and I am not really aware of any problems with the exams?
What if your teacher was crap, does that count?

France is one of the leading countries in economy, its high school qualification is obviously recognised along with A levels, IB, AP, Abitur, Matriculation, etc. Unlike some people, he didn't say his qualification was the best, he said it was one of, which holds as much truth as truth can be, so stop flaunting your own qualification.

BJH412 is doing many many more subjects than A levellers, most of which he has to get top marks in. that is no way comparable to AAB, in 3 subjects, allowing modular exams and modular retakes. please don't talk about fairness here it induces a dangerous amount of laughter.

stop comparing everything to your "gold standard" A levels when you haven't experienced any other system.

France is one of the leading countries in economy, its high school qualification is obviously recognised along with A levels, IB, AP, Abitur, Matriculation, etc. Unlike some people, he didn't say his qualification was the best, he said it was one of, which holds as much truth as truth can be, so stop flaunting your own qualification.

i also fail to understand why you always start these kinds of argument and lead a thread off topic. post it somewhere appropriate. or are you so resentful of other qualifications that you decide to pop up everywhere to bash them all? and don't give me the "TSR is a place to express opinion" thing, it's a student resource, what right have you to bring other students down by continually compare their qualification to your own and always conclude that their qualification is lacking? you are doing no one a favour, just annoying the **** out of others who you keep picking an argument with; and you are giving other members who visit the site for information a distorted picture of qualifications. OK, we get it, you've stated your opinion, you love A levels, it's the world gold standard examination, it's the God of all qualifications, we all should bow down to the almighty A levels. yea yea we get it, now please move on for gods sake!! you know, i didn't want to sink to a low level, but honestly, get a life; post something useful, or shut up.

i also fail to understand why you always start these kinds of argument and lead a thread off topic. post it somewhere appropriate. or are you so resentful of other qualifications that you decide to pop up everywhere to bash them all? and don't give me the "TSR is a place to express opinion" thing, it's a student resource, what right have you to bring other students down by continually compare their qualification to your own and always conclude that their qualification is lacking? you are doing no one a favour, just annoying the **** out of others who you keep picking an argument with; and you are giving other members who visit the site for information a distorted picture of qualifications. OK, we get it, you've stated your opinion, you love A levels, it's the world gold standard examination, it's the God of all qualifications, we all should bow down to the almighty A levels. yea yea we get it, now please move on for gods sake!! you know, i didn't want to sink to a low level, but honestly, get a life; post something useful, or shut up.

The way you reply shows that you don't get to the crux of the argument. If 15 pts in the French bac is indeed so much harder than AAB at A-levels, why would Imperial made such an offer. Is Imperial College stupid? Dumb? Blind? You have not done both qualifications either and you are judging it purely based on that French bac does more subjects. You have not done both the French bac and A levels and you are passing judgments. The key thing here is, while everybody can only graduate with one qualifications, Imperial come across thousands of people with A-levels, thousands of people with IB and hundreds of people with French bac. They have a much larger sample size than any single individuals would have. When they do the analysis (by comparing those people with different qualifications and their performance in university) they found that 15 French bac pts is equivalent to AAB in A levels. I am trying to state this objectively.

As for the tone of the posts, pls don't pass judgments. I and BJH have clashed over a number of issues and made numerous exchanges, and I hardly think that you follow thru all of them. The fact that I can cite so many of his posts show this fact clearly enough.