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    Hi,

    I was just wondering what everyone's thoughts are on science. This may be a little bit biased, as I hate science, but I've always wondered why it's compulsory.

    I personally think that it's pointless as the topics covered will bear no resemblance to problems I face in real life. I know, for scientists, that it would, but I have already chosen my A Levels and know what I will be doing for the next few years.

    Also, you may say that it's to give you an all round education, however art subjects aren't forced, and either are languages at some schools.

    I am aware that compulsory science only goes up to GCSE, however I am sure that universities will still look at my science grades, despite it being unrelated to my course of study.

    Please give your opinion, as I am up to discussion and debate.
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    Well, before I started my GCSEs I had little interest in science. Three years later and I'm doing A-Levels in Biology, Chemistry, Maths and History and want to do a scientific degree. The alternative to compulsory science would be dropping it after Year 9, or even earlier in schools that do compulsory GCSEs, at an age where most people aren't really even sure who they are, never mind what career they want to go into or A-Levels/degree they want to do. One of the key purposes of a broad-based education is to keep young people's options open, one of the reasons the A-Level system is criticised, as it forces specialisation at a much earlier age than most countries. Perhaps you know exactly what you want to do, but you're in a minority, and besides scientific subjects develop thinking and reasoning skills as well as giving you knowledge.
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    (Original post by george_c00per)
    Hi,

    I was just wondering what everyone's thoughts are on science. This may be a little bit biased, as I hate science, but I've always wondered why it's compulsory.

    I personally think that it's pointless as the topics covered will bear no resemblance to problems I face in real life. I know, for scientists, that it would, but I have already chosen my A Levels and know what I will be doing for the next few years.

    Also, you may say that it's to give you an all round education, however art subjects aren't forced, and either are languages at some schools.

    I am aware that compulsory science only goes up to GCSE, however I am sure that universities will still look at my science grades, despite it being unrelated to my course of study.

    Please give your opinion, as I am up to discussion and debate.
    Science is safe.

    What I want to know is why English Lit is compulsory. It is the crappest subject ever! How does Scrooge being a bloody mizer have anything to do with my life. I have never known why English Lit is compulsory. It means nothing to me. I detest it!
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    That is a good question ...
    All subjects should be compulsory up to Year 9
    I think Maths should only be an option after Y9 too
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    (Original post by Zedna)
    Well, before I started my GCSEs I had little interest in science. Three years later and I'm doing A-Levels in Biology, Chemistry, Maths and History and want to do a scientific degree. The alternative to compulsory science would be dropping it after Year 9, or even earlier in schools that do compulsory GCSEs, at an age where most people aren't really even sure who they are, never mind what career they want to go into or A-Levels/degree they want to do. One of the key purposes of a broad-based education is to keep young people's options open, one of the reasons the A-Level system is criticised, as it forces specialisation at a much earlier age than most countries. Perhaps you know exactly what you want to do, but you're in a minority, and besides scientific subjects develop thinking and reasoning skills as well as giving you knowledge.
    But in that logic, why aren't art based subjects, languages, certain humanities etc. forced as well? These would open many doors in the future also. I'm not saying that they should ALL be compulsory, but why are some not forced whereas others are? I know that many people would reply saying that sciences are generally looked upon better than arts/humanities/languages, but surely high grades in these subjects are better looking than low ones in science?
    I do understand where you are coming from on the topic of keeping people's doors open, but I just personally feel that I would be capable of better marks in a subject that wasn't scientific, even if I still did one Core Science GCSE.

    Thank you for your speedy reply, though
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    (Original post by I_Mir)
    Science is safe.

    What I want to know is why English Lit is compulsory. It is the crappest subject ever! How does Scrooge being a bloody mizer have anything to do with my life. I have never known why English Lit is compulsory. It means nothing to me. I detest it!
    I must agree, as the days go on, I find myself to be disliking English Literature more and more.. I guess that it shows that you have potential to read between the lines of what someone is saying, but that is a bit of a stretch to say the least!
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    Why is English Literature compulsory? I highly doubt that I will need to analyse Macbeth's speech in Act 1 Scene 7 at any point in my future life.
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    (Original post by TeeEm)
    That is a good question ...
    All subjects should be compulsory up to Year 9
    I think Maths should only be an option after Y9 too
    I mostly agree with that, as I would be much happier not doing Maths GCSE, but I read an article about how Maths helps you start with a problem and shrink it down into a more manageable one. But, quite a lot of Maths is not like that, especially topics such as Transformations, Vectors, etc.
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    (Original post by surina16)
    Why is English Literature compulsory? I highly doubt that I will need to analyse Macbeth's speech in Act 1 Scene 7 at any point in my future life.
    If you look a bit further up the thread I tried to answer that as best I could.

    If I'm honest, I could pick faults with every subject and its importance in the future, but Science felt like one I wanted to bring up as I will come out with 2 GCSE's at the end of it, and they may not be that great..
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    (Original post by george_c00per)
    I mostly agree with that, as I would be much happier not doing Maths GCSE, but I read an article about how Maths helps you start with a problem and shrink it down into a more manageable one. But, quite a lot of Maths is not like that, especially topics such as Transformations, Vectors, etc.
    totally agree ...
    there should be 1 hour of compulsory maths which is geared towards every day problems and calculations, and only the people which are good or interested can do it as an option, which then it can be made even harder
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    (Original post by TeeEm)
    totally agree ...
    there should be 1 hour of compulsory maths which is geared towards every day problems and calculations, and only the people which are good or interested can do it as an option, which then it can be made even harder
    Yes, I agree with that as well. Problems such as addition, subtraction, averages, etc. should be covered in the compulsory exam, as I am positive that they are the topics I will need in later life. Things such as Simultaneous Equations and Circle Theorems make me feel :bawling::bawling:
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    (Original post by george_c00per)
    Hi,

    I was just wondering what everyone's thoughts are on science. This may be a little bit biased, as I hate science, but I've always wondered why it's compulsory.

    I personally think that it's pointless as the topics covered will bear no resemblance to problems I face in real life. I know, for scientists, that it would, but I have already chosen my A Levels and know what I will be doing for the next few years.

    Also, you may say that it's to give you an all round education, however art subjects aren't forced, and either are languages at some schools.

    I am aware that compulsory science only goes up to GCSE, however I am sure that universities will still look at my science grades, despite it being unrelated to my course of study.

    Please give your opinion, as I am up to discussion and debate.
    I'm okay with Biology, but I can't deal with Chemistry and Physics. It's the only aspect of my GCSE exams that I'm doing the lower tier in because I'm simply not good at the longer questions in higher. I dont think it should be compulsory, but that's only a matter of opinion. I suppose I'm basing this on the fact that the highest I can get in all three is a C, and in the end I'll only recieve one grade for all three anyway. My brain can literally only work with languages.
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    (Original post by I_Mir)
    Science is safe.

    What I want to know is why English Lit is compulsory. It is the crappest subject ever! How does Scrooge being a bloody mizer have anything to do with my life. I have never known why English Lit is compulsory. It means nothing to me. I detest it!
    It is not crap, don't be mean
    I think schools can opt to just make one English GCSE compulsory, but most do both..
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    (Original post by twhiddy)
    I'm okay with Biology, but I can't deal with Chemistry and Physics. It's the only aspect of my GCSE exams that I'm doing the lower tier in because I'm simply not good at the longer questions in higher. I dont think it should be compulsory, but that's only a matter of opinion. I suppose I'm basing this on the fact that the highest I can get in all three is a C, and in the end I'll only recieve one grade for all three anyway. My brain can literally only work with languages.
    Exactly, even a GCSE in one science would be a good enough alternative. I am better at Biology as well, compared to the other two, but the grades I will receive in Chem and Phys will push my grades down more. It just doesn't make sense to me.

    P.S. Languages are my stronger field of study too
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    (Original post by george_c00per)
    Yes, I agree with that as well. Problems such as addition, subtraction, averages, etc. should be covered in the compulsory exam, as I am positive that they are the topics I will need in later life. Things such as Simultaneous Equations and Circle Theorems make me feel :bawling::bawling:
    lol I'm doing maths at uni and I still don't remember circle theorems. GCSE maths syllabus certainly could do with a revamp
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    (Original post by Ekervul)
    That's a fair question - there's certainly an argument for why it shouldn't be compulsory (up to a certain age).
    I think it is because science and scientific discoveries are what define our time, and it would be a little odd not to teach basic science to the next generation as we could potentially limit them. Most kids (imo) would not like the idea of science until they try it, and if you made them make that choice at age 4 - 11 it would be unfair on them. Similarly if the parents were against science, perhaps for religious reasons (eg), and they didn't choose science for their kids, it would limit their potential. It's probably best and fair that they are compulsory - in our age they are equivalent to maths and English in their usefulness (more so imo - but I'm a little biased having done Bio/Chem/Phy at A2 ).
    I completely agree that science will be very useful to the future generation as well, and some scientific knowledge would be needed to make the children realise their potential. At most schools, sciences between Year 7-11 are similar, if not slightly easier than the GCSE counterparts. I think that quite a lot of students would probably know what their opinion on science is by Year 9, as it doesn't change that much during Year 10-11.

    To be honest, compulsory subjects are always going to be problematic for students, as at least some would hate one or more of them. I don't think the government will ever find a reasonable alternative to get rid of them, as they make the student look capable in many areas, but I am backtracking a lot of things I've said already.
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    lol I'm doing maths at uni and I still don't remember circle theorems. GCSE maths syllabus certainly could do with a revamp
    Exactly! If parts of Maths GCSE doesn't come in useful to uni students, who will it come in useful to? :thumbsup::teehee:
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    (Original post by george_c00per)
    I mostly agree with that, as I would be much happier not doing Maths GCSE, but I read an article about how Maths helps you start with a problem and shrink it down into a more manageable one. But, quite a lot of Maths is not like that, especially topics such as Transformations, Vectors, etc.
    I understand where you're coming from haha. Although I personally love those topics, I can see them being completely useless for people who have no interest in them and will find no applications for them in real life
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    I think it is extremely important that all three of the sciences be taught up to GCSE at least. Science explains how things work. It's pretty much all facts (and plausible theories) in comparison to humanities where it's all opinions. This makes it worthwhile studying in my opinion as you are learning about things that might be brought up in a discussion over dinner or a quiz for example.

    More importantly science is everything. Biology you are learning about your own body and the science behind how it works. The human body is very complex and incredibly clever and you should respect that and take in some of the knowledge as to why the body does certain things. You also have plant biology and without plants we die so it's important to be aware of that side of science too.

    Chemistry explains how reactions happen and bodily reactions. While you may not see it as being as directly applicable as say biology it's fascinating and a basic understanding of gcse topics will set you well for life.

    Physics again is such an important subject and you see physics happening in your everyday life.

    Science is such a broad term and most schools divide it into those three said subjects so to suggest a curriculum where no one of those subjects were taught is completely ludicrous. I would go so far as to say that the sciences are the most valuable subjects anyone can learn and without them the average intelligence of a student will be significantly lower.
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    (Original post by george_c00per)
    Exactly, even a GCSE in one science would be a good enough alternative. I am better at Biology as well, compared to the other two, but the grades I will receive in Chem and Phys will push my grades down more. It just doesn't make sense to me.

    P.S. Languages are my stronger field of study too
    Yep! Especially Physics!! High five for languages woop!
 
 
 
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