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    So there's this great thing that UWE does when you apply for accommodation, where they ask you what kind of people you'd like to live with. They of course tell you that they can't GUARANTEE that you'll live with those people, but they'll try to facilitate something.

    When I was applying, I mentioned living with people who don't party 24/7 and keep the house relatively clean.

    So of course I got put in with 4 dirty party animals, and 1 sane guy who happens to be on my course, because of course I committed hubris by asking to live with people and not pigs.

    It wasn't really too bad from September until about early December (barring 2-3 house parties per week and vomit that took way too long to clean up) but it has gotten to the point now where I keep a bin bag in my room and just throw my rubbish in there because the bins downstairs are going to be growing their own little ecosystems soon.

    There's also the fact that one side of the kitchen worktops is completely unusable because dirty dishes are stacked on there constantly (and some haven't moved an inch since about January).

    I'm sure (partly) that your first response would be to tell me to (stop being a *****) try to communicate with them, but the thing is I have! We had a Whatsapp Group that all six of us were involved in, then as people started complaining people just threw out excuses and promptly left the group.

    Putting up notes on the noticeboard didn't help either, as you can find them crunched up into a ball on the floor just a few hours later.

    My sane housemate tried to complain about this a few months ago, but the Uni's response was basically to offer him alternative accommodation and nothing else. I have a meeting with a senior accommodation manager on Friday and frankly I expect the same response, or some sort of useless mediation that will end in me getting flak from 4 different people every day until May.

    So what exactly CAN I do at this point that doesn't resort to breaking people's dishes one by one each day until they get the point, or dumping out trash in front of their rooms? (I am seriously considering this by the way).
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    Nothing.

    If your accommodation provider is offering you an alternative room that is better than most.

    The reality is that a massive amount of people go through this and trying to change people's behaviour is just too difficult. If they do say anything to people in your flat the likelihood is they will do the washing up once and then it will be right back to square one, only they hate you now.... If people are amenable you could try and call a flat meeting and set up a rota for cleaning/bins etc but the only generally works if you are in the majority in your flat, if most people don't care you're unlikely to get anywhere.

    Best thing is just to keep your stuff separate in your room and keep some disinfectant to spray a surface with prior to cooking and, as you said, deal with your own rubbish.
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    (Original post by doodle_333)
    Nothing.

    If your accommodation provider is offering you an alternative room that is better than most.

    The reality is that a massive amount of people go through this and trying to change people's behaviour is just too difficult. If they do say anything to people in your flat the likelihood is they will do the washing up once and then it will be right back to square one, only they hate you now.... If people are amenable you could try and call a flat meeting and set up a rota for cleaning/bins etc but the only generally works if you are in the majority in your flat, if most people don't care you're unlikely to get anywhere.

    Best thing is just to keep your stuff separate in your room and keep some disinfectant to spray a surface with prior to cooking and, as you said, deal with your own rubbish.
    Really my biggest gripe is that sooner or later this WILL start to come out of our deposits, and frankly if I'm gonna start losing money because a bunch of children can't get their act together...It just doesn't sit right with me. You make very valid points regardless.
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    (Original post by Absoguar)
    Really my biggest gripe is that sooner or later this WILL start to come out of our deposits, and frankly if I'm gonna start losing money because a bunch of children can't get their act together...It just doesn't sit right with me. You make very valid points regardless.
    Then that's the point you decide your money is more important than getting along with people and make complaints in advance so you have some ground to stand on with regards to fines etc. Make sure this is done with a paper trail, e.g. by email, to prove you have tried to fix the situation and have informed them you will keep all cooking stuff in your room including bins etc. and check whether they will fine you anyway, some places will. It is completely unfair but it simply isn't worth their time as virtually every flat has some sort of issue with differing hygiene standards and dealing with them is really difficult (one person will claim it's excessively dirty and the rest will insist it's not as bad as they make out and how to them prove it?). You can't move out so really they have the power in the situation and can ignore it with no consequence. It's appalling given the amount people pay to live in a tiny box room in halls, but it's the way it is.
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    (Original post by doodle_333)
    Then that's the point you decide your money is more important than getting along with people and make complaints in advance so you have some ground to stand on with regards to fines etc. Make sure this is done with a paper trail, e.g. by email, to prove you have tried to fix the situation and have informed them you will keep all cooking stuff in your room including bins etc. and check whether they will fine you anyway, some places will. It is completely unfair but it simply isn't worth their time as virtually every flat has some sort of issue with differing hygiene standards and dealing with them is really difficult (one person will claim it's excessively dirty and the rest will insist it's not as bad as they make out and how to them prove it?). You can't move out so really they have the power in the situation and can ignore it with no consequence. It's appalling given the amount people pay to live in a tiny box room in halls, but it's the way it is.
    Thanks.

    I'll see about having some kind of paper trail for this but I'm a bit less hopeful at this point.
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    Sadly what you've described is very normal for student halls. You can't force others to care so you just learn to ignore it.
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    If you hate living there so much I don't understand why you don't want to move flats?
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    (Original post by Jenx301)
    If you hate living there so much I don't understand why you don't want to move flats?
    Because if I want to move out without getting some penalty thrown onto my back I need to find a replacement housemate, which is kind of a tough order considering this Academic year is more or less over and no one will be moving in to Halls anytime soon.
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    (Original post by Absoguar)
    Because if I want to move out without getting some penalty thrown onto my back I need to find a replacement housemate, which is kind of a tough order considering this Academic year is more or less over and no one will be moving in to Halls anytime soon.
    Are you 100% sure of that? Usually if the accommodation provider offers you a room in a new flat due to problematic flatmates you don't need a replacement. You may be right but I would be surprised and just want to make sure that you have been told this directly.
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    (Original post by Jenx301)
    Are you 100% sure of that? Usually if the accommodation provider offers you a room in a new flat due to problematic flatmates you don't need a replacement. You may be right but I would be surprised and just want to make sure that you have been told this directly.
    Oh I didn't realise you were talking about being offered alternative accommodation.

    Well the thing is I haven't been offered one yet, since I won't be speaking to the accommodation manager until Friday, and even then there's no guarantee since it's likely that Halls are all filled up and there's no chance I could get an alternative.

    The penalty etc. really only applies if you're moving out of Halls prematurely and for good.
 
 
 
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