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    Hello Everyone,


    Lancaster or QMUL ?

    I have got all my offers; I have offers to do ...

    1) 4 year msci physics and particle physics at Lancaster.. -AAA

    2) Maths at QMUL 3 years - ABB

    3) 4 Year Msci Physics at QMUL - AAB

    4) 4 year Msci Physics with particle physics at QMUL - AAB


    I am completely at a loss at where to go... Now ideally I would love to stay on to do a Phd in particle physics.. Lancaster I know offers this, but QMUL does a few months at particle accelerators which I don't know if Lancaster does


    My loss is really what to put for a first and second choice ah ..

    Any help would be brilliant !


    Cheers ,


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    I've moved this thread to our Physics and Chemistry sub forum, as you'll probably get the best advice from other physics students.
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    (Original post by Billsonbubbles)
    Hello Everyone,


    Lancaster or QMUL ?

    I have got all my offers; I have offers to do ...

    1) 4 year msci physics and particle physics at Lancaster.. -AAA

    2) Maths at QMUL 3 years - ABB

    3) 4 Year Msci Physics at QMUL - AAB

    4) 4 year Msci Physics with particle physics at QMUL - AAB


    I am completely at a loss at where to go... Now ideally I would love to stay on to do a Phd in particle physics.. Lancaster I know offers this, but QMUL does a few months at particle accelerators which I don't know if Lancaster does


    My loss is really what to put for a first and second choice ah ..

    Any help would be brilliant !


    Cheers ,


    Will
    Firstly if you're interested in particle physics (espieically experimental) then I would cross the maths one off, the difference between 3 and 4 is the optional modules are already picked for you in 4 (you can do exactly the same modules if you picked 3 i think)

    So really the decision is between 3 and 1

    Now have you visited both unis? I would say course wise it doesn't matter which one you pick, no one when you apply for a phd is going to go 'oh they went to x uni and this one went to y lets pick the one that went to y' at this kind of level anyway (maybe if it was say qmul and imperial/oxford)

    As for lancaster offering a phd program and qmul not, it doesn't matter, a lot of people change uni for their phd don't pick the uni because of what research it does!
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    Firstly if you're interested in particle physics (espieically experimental) then I would cross the maths one off, the difference between 3 and 4 is the optional modules are already picked for you in 4 (you can do exactly the same modules if you picked 3 i think)

    So really the decision is between 3 and 1

    Now have you visited both unis? I would say course wise it doesn't matter which one you pick, no one when you apply for a phd is going to go 'oh they went to x uni and this one went to y lets pick the one that went to y' at this kind of level anyway (maybe if it was say qmul and imperial/oxford)

    As for lancaster offering a phd program and qmul not, it doesn't matter, a lot of people change uni for their phd don't pick the uni because of what research it does!

    Aw thank you !

    That is brilliant help, Yes I have visited both Uni's I prefer the Lancaster campus a lot more and me living in Manchester means the commute wouldn't be as long.

    I would be living on campus of course, but Lancaster does offer the 4 years on campus which is really attractive to me.


    However would you think I would be affected if I put Lancaster as my first choice, by which I mean would it affect the chances of getting in to London if I didn't get the required grades which I shouldn't but just trying to cover all ends.


    so I think I might put the Lancaster one as my first choice, but I am not sure which to put as my second in terms of the courses, as I love particle physics but the normal physics .. if you can call it normal, can be built up to the same spec and you can swap courses up to the end of the first year as they are the same course in the first year. I don't know if to be safe to pick the normal physics and if I change my mind about the type of phyiscs I want to do, as I have been compelled by the theoretical side of things but never had the confidence to do it, as we did a taster and I thought it was a little bit harder than the particle stuff I went off and looked at ... for me anyway.


    But what are your thoughts ?


    Again I can't thank you enough for your help, you have put my mind at ease !


    Cheers.

    Will
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    (Original post by madmadmax321)
    Firstly if you're interested in particle physics (espieically experimental) then I would cross the maths one off, the difference between 3 and 4 is the optional modules are already picked for you in 4 (you can do exactly the same modules if you picked 3 i think)

    So really the decision is between 3 and 1

    Now have you visited both unis? I would say course wise it doesn't matter which one you pick, no one when you apply for a phd is going to go 'oh they went to x uni and this one went to y lets pick the one that went to y' at this kind of level anyway (maybe if it was say qmul and imperial/oxford)

    As for lancaster offering a phd program and qmul not, it doesn't matter, a lot of people change uni for their phd don't pick the uni because of what research it does!

    Sorry I hadn't read your post fully, aha sorry
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    (Original post by Billsonbubbles)
    Aw thank you !

    That is brilliant help, Yes I have visited both Uni's I prefer the Lancaster campus a lot more and me living in Manchester means the commute wouldn't be as long.

    I would be living on campus of course, but Lancaster does offer the 4 years on campus which is really attractive to me.


    However would you think I would be affected if I put Lancaster as my first choice, by which I mean would it affect the chances of getting in to London if I didn't get the required grades which I shouldn't but just trying to cover all ends.


    so I think I might put the Lancaster one as my first choice, but I am not sure which to put as my second in terms of the courses, as I love particle physics but the normal physics .. if you can call it normal, can be built up to the same spec and you can swap courses up to the end of the first year as they are the same course in the first year. I don't know if to be safe to pick the normal physics and if I change my mind about the type of phyiscs I want to do, as I have been compelled by the theoretical side of things but never had the confidence to do it, as we did a taster and I thought it was a little bit harder than the particle stuff I went off and looked at ... for me anyway.


    But what are your thoughts ?


    Again I can't thank you enough for your help, you have put my mind at ease !


    Cheers.

    Will
    If you liked lancaster more then I would put that as your first choice

    Na qmul most likely won't negatively look at your application if you miss your offer just because you put them as second choice, almost every uni is put second by someone

    I would go for straight physics over a specialism in particle physics as it won't make much of a difference in phd opportunities due to not all unis offering that specialism but students from then places still want to do particle physics phds

    Yes theoretical physics is a fair bit more mathematically involved then straight physics at some unis (this is because in later years I get to do things like topology, differential geometry, non linear differential equations and much more aha where as the straight physics people just do the maths you need, which is still a lot of maths though)

    Though I do a specialism myself haha (though in theoretical physics as I do more advanced maths on this course compared to the straight physics at my uni )
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    (Original post by madmadmax321)
    If you liked lancaster more then I would put that as your first choice

    Na qmul most likely won't negatively look at your application if you miss your offer just because you put them as second choice, almost every uni is put second by someone

    I would go for straight physics over a specialism in particle physics as it won't make much of a difference in phd opportunities due to not all unis offering that specialism but students from then places still want to do particle physics phds

    Yes theoretical physics is a fair bit more mathematically involved then straight physics at some unis (this is because in later years I get to do things like topology, differential geometry, non linear differential equations and much more aha where as the straight physics people just do the maths you need, which is still a lot of maths though)

    Though I do a specialism myself haha (though in theoretical physics as I do more advanced maths on this course compared to the straight physics at my uni )
    Oh yeah I will , I love doing maths which is why I did tick theoretical but I just had a change of heart after looking into particle, but as everyone just says its just my opinion.


    So I could go on to do a Phd in the theoretical or particle even if I did a 4 year in straight physics, so If I wanted to could I change that to any aspect of physics .. eg.. astro if I changed the structure throughout my time on the 4 year?


    Also how are you finding it ? What is it like ?.. i.e what do you look at ?


    Thanks again,

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    (Original post by Billsonbubbles)
    Oh yeah I will , I love doing maths which is why I did tick theoretical but I just had a change of heart after looking into particle, but as everyone just says its just my opinion.


    So I could go on to do a Phd in the theoretical or particle even if I did a 4 year in straight physics, so If I wanted to could I change that to any aspect of physics .. eg.. astro if I changed the structure throughout my time on the 4 year?


    Also how are you finding it ? What is it like ?.. i.e what do you look at ?


    Thanks again,

    Will
    Then I would stick with straight physics if I were you as it will give you the breadth so can take things in particle and some theory stuff too

    You could do a phd in theory or particle with straight physics yes, and you could pick the astro modules assuming you had the prerequisites for those modules in later years (this is uni dependent so best to email them asking that question)

    example I could change between astro specialism and straight physics throughout the 4 years assuming I picked the correct astro modules but I can't change between theory and straight/astro after first year

    I am finding it all manageable (though I had personal issue during the christmas holidays which drastically effected my exam results) and I should be on track for a first in semester 2 so far

    As for what we look at (I am only first year but heavily looked into what to do for applying for phds aha hence why I know so much about the admissions)

    - mechanics (kinematics, conservation of energy, angular momentum, torque, centripetal stuff, newtons laws etc)
    - electro (electric and magnetic fields but with a lot more maths than A-level with lots of different shaped objects, forces, same stuff as A-level for circuits)
    - Quantum and relativity (black body radiation and its problems, bohr atom model, Heisenberg uncertainty principle, special relativity)
    - Thermodynamics (A-levels plus a bit really so far)
    - solid state physics (chemistry based stuff and quantum numbers)
    - waves and vibrations (wave equations and a lot of derivations)

    Maths wise (basic integration and differentiation, a lot of stuff done in further maths, Fourier series, spherical/circular polar coordinates, taylor series, differential equations of 1st and 2nd order, vectors and more aha)
    My extra maths module (All based on matrices so far and doing eigenvalues and eigenvectors soon)


    Note that even though some of it is the same as at A-level for the physics, it is a lot more mathematically involved and rather than just getting given equations we have to derive most of them

    There is also a fair bit more that we have covered than I mentioned but to would take forever to type out aha and also we arent given any equations in exams so that different too, with the exception of constants you are expected to remember or at least derive all of them
 
 
 
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