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distribution of marks in OCR further maths

does anyone know how the module scores are moved around between maths and further maths for your final grade?

i think p1,2,3 must be maths and p4,5,6 further maths, and you can only have one level 1 applied in further maths .

but i am unsure of the way the rest of the applied modules are allocated.
some people say that they automatically put the highest scoring modules into maths and the remainder into further maths, others say they are automatically allocated in a way to get you an A in maths and then to maximise your score in further maths with the remainder.

im wondering because i feel like ive absolutely messed up p5 and m2, and if they arrange the marks in the former way i think it could be possible that i dont get an A in further???

i only did single maths last year and have been doing 9 modules this year meaning a lot rested on this summer; most went well except p5 and m2 so i hope they dont ruin it for me. :frown:

module scores from last year are:

p1 -100
p2 - 88
s1 - 87 (worried this could bring marks down if its the level 1 placed in further)

january:

p4 - 100
d1 - 100
m1 - 98

estimated scores from this summer (being optimistic :s-smilie:

)

p3 - 100 (sounds very optimistic but i remember most if not all of my answers matching the solutions that ive seen and felt confident about the paper... plus most people hated it so if i have made the odd silly mistake should be scaled up quite a bit)
p5 - 60-65? (definitely on optimistic side. the annoying thing about this one is i could actually do the questions when i got out of the exam... i just spent so long on the easy questions that i was left rushing the 2 at the end and forgot everything :frown:

)
p6 - 95?
m2 - 55-65? (also optimistic. couldnt do two questions, both worth 10 marks :s-smilie:

and one was an equilibrium question !!! my equations kept cancelling damnit ! )
m3 - 90?
s2 - 95+

will it still be possible for me to get an A in further maths ? and if i do, will it be scraping an A or will they be distributed evenly?

i was hoping to reapply to cambridge but i think my p5 and m2 scores may stick out like a sore thumb and remind them why they didnt take me in the first place.... its all down to STEP now... im doomed then :frown:

im hoping for the encouragement that they try to get you highest in maths and further maths, not just maths... :s-smilie:

but anyone whos absolutely 110% sure they know the system and that the lowest scores will be put into further maths please give me the bad news ... :frown:

*fingers crossed* also *fingers crossed that there will be lots of method marks and UMS and that m2 and p5 wont be as low as predicted.... everyone hated m2 right ???? *

thanks for any replies. :smile:

Reply 1

Jonny W

From the OCR specification:

Where a candidate has requested awards in both Mathematics and Further Mathematics, OCR will adopt the following procedure:

1. determine the best Mathematics grade available to the candidate;

2. select the combination of units which allows the least total Uniform Mark to be used in achieving that grade legally;

3. determine the best Further Mathematics grade subject to 1.

Reply 2

Jonny W

Let's assume all your predictions are accurate:

p1 -100
p2 - 88
p3 - 100 (pred)
p4 - 100
p5 - 60-65 (pred)
p6 - 95 (pred)
m1 - 98
m2 - 55-65 (pred)
m3 - 90 (pred)
s1 - 87
s2 - 95+ (pred)
d1 - 100

Maths must consist of P1-3 plus three of P4, M1, M2, M3, S1, S2 and D1, subject to the following restrictions.

(1) You can't include M2 unless you have M1, M3 unless you have M2, and S2 unless you have S1.
(2) You can't include all three of M1, S1 and D1.
(3) You can't include all three mechanics modules, because that would leave two level 1 modules for Further Maths, which isn't allowed.

So I guess that means you will get P1-3, M1, M2 and S1 for Maths. Total UMS: 533.

This allocation leaves P4-6, M3, S2 and D1 for Further Maths. Total UMS: 542.

Reply 3

lou p lou

i got told that you can actually request to have your A level comiled of certain modules and some for your further... don't know whether it's too late now or not.

lou xxx

Reply 4

stephx

wow thats great, thanks for the calculations :smile:

feel more reassured now...

after the p5 exam i was shoving numbers in the calculator and seemed to come to the conclusion that i needed atleast 90 in both m2 and s2 to get an A in further... dunno where i got that from :confused:

so after that m2 exam i was veeery unsure of my grade... can forgive myself for the collisions with kinetic energy question but i feel an idiot for messing up the equilibrium one. and could have done all of p5 if id have left myself enough time to think straight at the end... i just lost it :s-smilie:

oh well, its done now...

not so bad , no more exams except step to look forward to now so i can just sit working through mounds of problems yey !

anyway thanks for replies :smile:

Reply 5

beauford

jonny, are you sure you have to have taken s1 to include s2?

I'm doing edexcel and for normal maths i'm going to have P1-P3, M1, M3 and S4, and for f. maths P4-P6, D1, M2 and S5.

Reply 6

Jonny W

beauford

jonny, are you sure you have to have taken s1 to include s2?

I'm doing edexcel and for normal maths i'm going to have P1-P3, M1, M3 and S4, and for f. maths P4-P6, D1, M2 and S5.

I think Edexcel are more flexible than OCR.

Reply 7

Wasp39

Is P6 easier than P5? - I just noticed you predicted yourself 30% more for it. I'm doing P5 but not P6.

BTW I think the grade boundaries for P5 are very low (certainly of the order of 37-39 for a couple of pps I've done)

Reply 8

stephx

yeah i think p6 is slightly easier than p5 in general, new abstract ideas and a lot of theory starting from scratch, whereas p5 is more technical and builds on what you already know...

i expected to perform equally in both (maybe sliiiightly higher in p6 but not this much), but i just messed up p5. in fairness the paper wasnt hard, it was just a case of me running out of time and losing my nerve on the last two quesions.

i dont know if the grade boundaries will be low this year cos everyone else seemed to find it easy :frown:

i was much more confident about the p6 paper, finished in 50 mins, (though did make the stupid mistake of not dividing by the determinant for 2x2 inverse, should only be a mark or two im hoping... :s )

i think most people tend to find p6 easier then p5 but it depends what youre good at really. p6 is useful if your continuing maths to uni.

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