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    (Original post by queen-bee)
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    Feel free to join me in church every Sunday.
    No thanks, a church like yours is the last place I'd be seen...

    And reporting me for exposing your beliefs? LOL, proof you've lost the argument.
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    (Original post by Foo.mp3)
    This was never my contention:mute:

    Am I ****! :laugh:

    Ok, so I just googled what you said and these are the images that feature in the first 3 rows that are pretty clearly of women in public:

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    Well I'm going so you're welcome to come with me
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    (Original post by childofthesun)
    He's fully Polish by ethnicity, and American by nationality? Not exactly complicated
    He's Jewish. He speaks no Polish, nor does he participate in any other culture other than American culture, as far as he has made the public aware about these matters.

    The comparison here would be if Sanders suddenly decided that, because his parents were Polish, his opinion on everything to do with Poland should be ascribed a higher weight than the opinions of 'outsiders.' :beard:
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    (Original post by Cato the Elder)
    No thanks, a church like yours is the last place I'd be seen...

    And reporting me for exposing your beliefs? LOL, proof you've lost the argument.
    There's no argument to be had. You seem to be angry which goes to show you're very hot and bothered and go on to call me a fascist like the troll that you are. You don't know me for you to be exposing my 'beliefs'
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    (Original post by queen-bee)
    Well I'm going so you're welcome to come with me
    Who's paying? :holmes:
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    (Original post by Polysexual Nymph)
    but the Western intervention has done no such thing, and if you had a bone of honesty in your body you would admit this.
    Tell me then, what is the Western intervention contributing too? Whenever they aid the YPG/J, the folly on the ground proceed to evict the Arab populace and raze their villages in what Amnesty International has described as 'war crimes' (look it up for yourself). Or how about the reports of the US airstrikes which target populated areas (because let's face it, it's a common guerrilla tactic who hide among the populace) which has reportedly killed nearly 500 civilians (again, look it up for yourself).

    (Original post by Polysexual Nymph)
    No one is entitled to anything in life. Sad, but true.
    You say this as you drink wine from your ivory chalice. :laugh:

    (Original post by Polysexual Nymph)
    Saying that, I would support the UK taking more refugees - as long as they were (i) directly affected by the conflict in Syria; and (ii) educated/otherwise skilled; and (iii) married with children or (iv) children
    Too bad the UK is not even doing that.
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    (Original post by Hydeman)
    Who's paying? :holmes:
    Moi
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    (Original post by Hydeman)
    He's Jewish. He speaks no Polish, nor does he participate in any other culture other than American culture, as far as he has made the public aware about these matters.

    The comparison here would be if Sanders suddenly decided that, because his parents were Polish, his opinion on everything to do with Poland should be ascribed a higher weight than the opinions of 'outsiders.' :beard:
    Jewish then. I view ethnicity and nationality as two separate things. Even if like you said he has only ever participated in American culture, that doesn't change the fact that he's still ethnically a Polish Jewish(or just Jewish idk)

    That wasn't your initial point though. You were arguing that even though QB's mother was Syrian,because she grew up in Europe, QB couldn't identify as half Syrian.
    (Although I do understand the point you're trying to make now)
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    (Original post by queen-bee)
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    Can I come? :puppyeyes:
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    (Original post by Hydeman)
    Can I come? :puppyeyes:
    Ofcourse! I'm a generous humanist
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    (Original post by Foo.mp3)
    This was never my contention:mute:

    Am I ****! :laugh:

    Ok, so I just googled what you said and these are the images that feature in the first 3 rows that are pretty clearly of women in public:
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    (Original post by queen-bee)
    There's no argument to be had. You seem to be angry which goes to show you're very hot and bothered and go on to call me a fascist like the troll that you are. You don't know me for you to be exposing my 'beliefs'
    I've seen your comments across this forum. You have a dogmatic hatred of the West due to your Arab heritage and feel that to accept Western culture is "betraying" that heritage (which proves that you can't think for yourself and that you aren't an individual, you instead let family, friends and the "culture" you were born into decide your views) in the mould of other such bumptiously West-hating Orientals such as Edward Said and Sayyid Qutb, you've openly advocated for us to accept hordes of refugees into Europe, delighting in the fact that this will disrupt the continent and lead to the downfall of our civilisation and claiming it is "karma", have claimed that Bush did 9/11, you defend Islam and Muslims at every turn as a knee-jerk reaction to any conversation involving the latter simply because Islam was founded by an Arab, Muhammad, and anything Arab = good in your eyes and can never be criticised, you constantly talk about your puerile, unfounded hatred of the West and your desire to leave and live in Syria (you share that in common with many people of Middle Eastern descent who live here), you whine, strawman and use anecdotes as arguments ("I've met Assad, he wasn't such a bad chap until he killed my grandaddy!") etc etc.
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    (Original post by childofthesun)
    Jewish then. I view ethnicity and nationality as two separate things. Even if like you said he has only ever participated in American culture, that doesn't change the fact that he's still ethnically a Polish Jewish(or just Jewish idk)
    Ethnicity is somewhat dependent on cultural affiliation, though (a quick Google definition: the fact or state of belonging to a social group that has a common national or cultural tradition.) It's distinct from race in that respect (e.g. an assimilated South Asian person in London is Asian in a genetic sense, but if he participates only in a local culture and not the culture of his ancestors, then he is ethnically British, weird though that sounds).

    That wasn't your initial point though. You were arguing that even though QB's mother was Syrian,because she grew up in Europe, QB couldn't identify as half Syrian.
    (Although I do understand the point you're trying to make now)
    I've no personal interest in proving QB's ancestry one way or the other. :lol: I was only disputing it with respect to the whole 'insiders and outsiders' conundrum.
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    Lebanon is probably the only place in the ME I would visit.


    Iran in a decade or so once the government is more reflective of the overwhelmingly liberal/young population.


    Israel whenever it stops denying the Palestinians their basic rights (e.g. to self-determination).
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    (Original post by RamocitoMorales)
    I mention this in every thread, but why should Turkey have to bear 2.6 million refugees when it's US, French, British, etc. planes dropping bombs over Syria?
    What? Turkey buying ISIS oil, and occasionally blowing up Russian airplanes to almost start WW3 is okay? They should really be kicked out of NATO, so holding 2.6 million refugees isn't much of a "punishment".

    Plus Turkey is using this as a political tool. They are threatening to release their refugees onto Europe to try influence the EU.

    Also, what they are doing to the Kurds is despicable.

    Don't think Turkey is a victim in all this.
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    (Original post by childofthesun)
    Hahaha, I have no resentment towards Syrian people or Syria as a country-the government,perhaps. I'm sure you can guess the country to which all my resentment and hatred is directed
    That's right, the Israelis of all people, who tried to help the Lebanese...it's alright for Syria to invade and occupy Lebanon because they're Arabs.

    The joys of racism.
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    (Original post by Polysexual Nymph)
    Lebanon is probably the only place in the ME I would visit.


    Iran in a decade or so once the government is more reflective of the overwhelmingly liberal/young population.


    Israel whenever it stops denying the Palestinians their basic rights (e.g. to self-determination).


    What about Jordan or Oman?
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    (Original post by Polysexual Nymph)
    Lebanon is probably the only place in the ME I would visit.


    Iran in a decade or so once the government is more reflective of the overwhelmingly liberal/young population.


    Israel whenever it stops denying the Palestinians their basic rights (e.g. to self-determination).
    Jordan? Although they do kiss up to Saudi a bit... but overall they are fairly good
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    (Original post by chemting)
    What? Turkey buying ISIS oil, and occasionally blowing up Russian airplanes to almost start WW3 is okay? They should really be kicked out of NATO, so holding 2.6 million refugees isn't much of a "punishment".
    I am quite sure that if a Russian fighter jet made its way into UK airspace then it would also be shot down (but there is a large distance between the UK and any other border so that the planes can safely be escorted out before they even enter our airspace). Russia also violated Turkey's airspace on multiple occasions despite warnings and despite the public policy that Turkey is using on any objects that come out of Syria (after one of its own fighter jets was shot down).

    Come on, NATO is supposed to be there for the benefit of all its members, not just the US'.

    (Original post by chemting)
    Also, what they are doing to the Kurds is despicable.
    What are they doing to the Kurds right now? Just so you know, 'Kurds' does not equal 'PKK'.
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    (Original post by childofthesun)
    Come off it.
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