The relative silence on the renewing of Salman Rushdie's Fatwa Is deafening!

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It depresses me greatly that liberals do not stand up for freedom of speech. If we don't no one else will.
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That's a good bit of satire

http://thesatedire.com/news/world-ne...med-ayatollah/
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http://www.theguardian.com/books/201...-fatwa-outrage

The Iranian regime must face global condemnation for its incitement to murder. Democratic and secular governments should unequivocally condemn the regime’s fatwa and bounty, demand their immediate cancellation, prioritise human rights and free expression, and side with freethinkers rather than appeasing a theocratic regime.

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That is a long hit list...
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I was aware of that but I did say relative.

There is a push back from some academics but I was referring to liberals in general.

My Facebook page, most of my friends are liberals, here, although I admit I didn't research it for long, and general discussions seem to ignore what was the first warning shot all those years ago.

I Googled it and the only satire site I found mentioning it was this one....

http://thesatedire.com/news/world-ne...med-ayatollah/
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It depresses me greatly that liberals do not stand up for freedom of speech. If we don't no one else will.
I used to play with his child when I was young (he wasn't there, of course, I never knew about it until later), it's a real shame that people don't stand up for free speech.
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I used to play with his child when I was young (he wasn't there, of course, I never knew about it until later), it's a real shame that people don't stand up for free speech.
It is. They would rather indulge, and it is an indulgence, in masochism. They are in for a shock if they think shutting down any criticism of religion is going to make the world a more tolerant place.
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That is a long hit list...
It is and good for them but it needs to be something that is treated like racism in western society. There is a line that should never be crossed and advocating killing someone for offence is as simple a position for liberals to set up against as there is.

It is incumbent on us all to stand against something like this.
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(Original post by Damien96)
It depresses me greatly that liberals do not stand up for freedom of speech. If we don't no one else will.
When that was made originally it was shocking that someone could be threatened with death for writing a book.

Now it's a Tuesday, that's being overly tolerant for you.


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The silence from Conservatives and the right wing on this is deafening.
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(Original post by MagicNMedicine)
The silence from Conservatives and the right wing on this is deafening.
It's more the silence from everyone that's deafening it's just a regular Occurrence these days


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Despite previously costing lives, even Rushdie himself now views the fatwa as an empty threat. So I'm not sure there is anything to stand up to.
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Despite previously costing lives, even Rushdie himself now views the fatwa as an empty threat. So I'm not sure there is anything to stand up to.
The Fatwa itself might be an empty threat, but that doesn't negate the fact there are still certain elements in Islam who think it is perfectly acceptable to use threats and violence to silence anybody they disagree with. People like Theo Van Gogh and the Charlie Hebdo cartoonists have found that out the hard way.

I certainly wouldn't be making any visits to places like Bradford or Tower Hamlets if I were in Rushdie's shoes right now.
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I'm clearly not trying hard enough.
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(Original post by Greenlaner)
The Fatwa itself might be an empty threat, but that doesn't negate the fact there are still certain elements in Islam who think it is perfectly acceptable to use threats and violence to silence anybody they disagree with. People like Theo Van Gogh and the Charlie Hebdo cartoonists have found that out the hard way.

I certainly wouldn't be making any visits to places like Bradford or Tower Hamlets if I were in Rushdie's shoes right now.
That left wing satirical paper.
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(Original post by MagicNMedicine)
The silence from Conservatives and the right wing on this is deafening.
There is less silence from the right. Silence fromt he right is generally a good thing though.
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Despite previously costing lives, even Rushdie himself now views the fatwa as an empty threat. So I'm not sure there is anything to stand up to.
Yeah blasphemy, particularly against Islam in the current climate, never got anyone killed.

Even if the threat were empty, which it is not, standing up against it should be a matter if principle.
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(Original post by Greenlaner)
The Fatwa itself might be an empty threat, but that doesn't negate the fact there are still certain elements in Islam who think it is perfectly acceptable to use threats and violence to silence anybody they disagree with. People like Theo Van Gogh and the Charlie Hebdo cartoonists have found that out the hard way.

I certainly wouldn't be making any visits to places like Bradford or Tower Hamlets if I were in Rushdie's shoes right now.
If he can't visit areas where there are Muslim majorities then the threat is clearly not empty.
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"History doesn't repeat itself, but it does rhyme." It's scary how familiar all this is starting to become.
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"History doesn't repeat itself, but it does rhyme." It's scary how familiar all this is starting to become.
The victim blaming is astonishing, not just regarding Rushdie. It is the equivelant of pointing at the short skirt of a rape victim and the fact the finger often belongs to liberals is what frightens me.
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