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    Hello.

    I'm going to study Law (LLB) in UK from this Sept. I have heard about many negative reviews about prospects for International students in securing a training contract. I'm really very anxious and worried, Is it true that it is impossible for international students to secure a training contract? Could you please rate prospects of international student securing a training on basis of 1-10?
    I'm quite a hard worker and I'm willing to work hard.
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    Depends on your grades prior to Uni (to be safe, it's whatever is equivalent to AAB at A Levels in the UK) and getting a 2.1 or higher in your degree. Also get as many extra curricular stuff and internships as you can
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    (Original post by Ibii97)
    Hello.

    I'm going to study Law (LLB) in UK from this Sept. I have heard about many negative reviews about prospects for International students in securing a training contract. I'm really very anxious and worried, Is it true that it is impossible for international students to secure a training contract? Could you please rate prospects of international student securing a training on basis of 1-10?
    I'm quite a hard worker and I'm willing to work hard.
    I am assuming you are a non-EU national.

    It isn't impossible.

    It's just you are limited to a small number of firms. I'd estimate that there's around 750-1000 TC vacancies you could apply for out of about 5,000-6,000 that exist.

    And you are competing with 10,000s of candidates to get those roles. So it is very challenging, but not impossible. There's enough non-EU international students that get TCs though.


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    International student that got a TC here, PM me and I will see how much I can help.
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    im an intl student who recently secured a tc as well, happy to ans your queries

    (Original post by Ibii97)
    Hello.

    I'm going to study Law (LLB) in UK from this Sept. I have heard about many negative reviews about prospects for International students in securing a training contract. I'm really very anxious and worried, Is it true that it is impossible for international students to secure a training contract? Could you please rate prospects of international student securing a training on basis of 1-10?
    I'm quite a hard worker and I'm willing to work hard.
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    (Original post by kalntax)
    International student that got a TC here, PM me and I will see how much I can help.
    Hello there.Thanks for offering help. I'm an international student going to study Law at University of Central Lancashire.I really want to know how hard is it for international students to secure a training contract? Did you go for self funded LPC/ BPTC? Would you like to offer me any tips? Thanks
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    I know of quite a number of non-EU students who secured TCs while at university, with a smaller number securing them after graduation. They usually either had excellent grades (a 1st) or excellent work experience or both.
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    Hey, I'm in the same position too. However, I'm currently in my final year of the LLB which I'm doing in my home country with the University of London (international programmes). I plan to go to Manchester to do the LPC after but I want to know my chances of securing a training contract there? Can you give me some advice?
    Also, would it help much it I managed to get a 1st class hons in my LLB?
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    (Original post by fluffybun)
    Hey, I'm in the same position too. However, I'm currently in my final year of the LLB which I'm doing in my home country with the University of London (international programmes). I plan to go to Manchester to do the LPC after but I want to know my chances of securing a training contract there? Can you give me some advice?
    Also, would it help much it I managed to get a 1st class hons in my LLB?
    The difficulty you will have is that there will be time out between your LPC and training contract.

    The vast majority of firms who offer TCs to international candidates recruit 2-3 years in advance of the training contract starting (firms are just about to open their September 2019 through to September 2020 intakes).

    There are complications from a visa process for those who aren't converted straight from a student visa to a work visa, but it still isn't impossible. You'd ultimately have to return home for a period of time and your visa would have to be sorted in your home country.




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    (Original post by Ibii97)
    Hello.

    I'm going to study Law (LLB) in UK from this Sept. I have heard about many negative reviews about prospects for International students in securing a training contract. I'm really very anxious and worried, Is it true that it is impossible for international students to secure a training contract? Could you please rate prospects of international student securing a training on basis of 1-10?
    I'm quite a hard worker and I'm willing to work hard.
    i'm an international student and landed a TC with a big firm in the City. firms don't care where you're from. just have the grades and be better than others at interviews.
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    (Original post by J-SP)
    The difficulty you will have is that there will be time out between your LPC and training contract.

    The vast majority of firms who offer TCs to international candidates recruit 2-3 years in advance of the training contract starting (firms are just about to open their September 2019 through to September 2020 intakes).

    There are complications from a visa process for those who aren't converted straight from a student visa to a work visa, but it still isn't impossible. You'd ultimately have to return home for a period of time and your visa would have to be sorted in your home country.




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    Hey, thanks for replying to my question. I have a few others:- 1) I see that BPP Law School boasts of a 'Career Guarantee' stating that if after the University has used reasonable means (preparing you for interviews etc) and you haven't gotten a TC within 6 mths they offer a free course. I wanted to know if this applied to international students as well and even if it were, is it just a hoax? Does BPP really have something to offer that other LPC providers don't? 2) I know that most students who secure TCs are still in Uni so that the firm pays for their LPC studies too. If I apply for a TC after having paid for my own LPC studies, do you think it's more likely that a firm would consider me given that they don't have to cover such costs, despite the late application? 3) I've also seen that some providers offer pro bono opportunities to their students. If I take part (also because I want the experience) does this open up a pathway for me to apply to firms? What I mean is, would firms look favourably at this or would it not really have an impact on my chances of getting a TC as an intl student. 4) Finally, I know that in the past intl students had to compete with not only UK but also EU students and the firm had to show that the intl student had something that the UK/EU did not possess. I'm wondering with the whole Brexit fiasco, even though nothing has been finalised - would I still be against UK and EU applicants or just UK applicants now. Thanks so much again! Really appreciate your responses!
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    (Original post by fluffybun)
    Hey, thanks for replying to my question. I have a few others:- 1) I see that BPP Law School boasts of a 'Career Guarantee' stating that if after the University has used reasonable means (preparing you for interviews etc) and you haven't gotten a TC within 6 mths they offer a free course. I wanted to know if this applied to international students as well and even if it were, is it just a hoax? Does BPP really have something to offer that other LPC providers don't? 2) I know that most students who secure TCs are still in Uni so that the firm pays for their LPC studies too. If I apply for a TC after having paid for my own LPC studies, do you think it's more likely that a firm would consider me given that they don't have to cover such costs, despite the late application? 3) I've also seen that some providers offer pro bono opportunities to their students. If I take part (also because I want the experience) does this open up a pathway for me to apply to firms? What I mean is, would firms look favourably at this or would it not really have an impact on my chances of getting a TC as an intl student. 4) Finally, I know that in the past intl students had to compete with not only UK but also EU students and the firm had to show that the intl student had something that the UK/EU did not possess. I'm wondering with the whole Brexit fiasco, even though nothing has been finalised - would I still be against UK and EU applicants or just UK applicants now. Thanks so much again! Really appreciate your responses!
    1) It's not a hoax just a gimmick to sell you the course. The guarantee isn't just if you secure a TC though, if you secure any form of office environment work, you wouldn't get the second qualification for free. You also have to ask whether the second qualification would really help you in anyway even if they did give it to you for free. LPC providers are much of a muchness - there isn't a lot that separates them really.

    2) firms don't really care whether you have studied the LPC or not. It's not going to give you a distinct advantage if you have taken the course unless the firm is recruiting for a TC that starts in the next year or if they don't sponsor their trainees through the LPC. You find with the latter group they will be far less likely to support you with a work permit though.

    3) Pro bono is just another form of extra curricular activity. Firms expect those ECs on your CV/application, but it doesn't have to be pro bono work. So does pro bono open up applications to you, no. Does it potentially help bring another dynamic to your application form, yes. Again it doesn't given you a distinct advantage though.

    4) Until the Brexit deal is finalised, who knows. But that is going to take time anyway. For the time being you have to prove you are better than any EU or U.K applicant. When that changes, it might actually be easier to get work permits for non-EU applicants because there process will have to become easier/standards lowered where there will be less applicants. But I really wouldn't concern yourself with that for the time being. It could all change depending on negotiations.
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    Hello guys !

    I would like to know if it's possible for an international student to secure a TC, with only an LLM from a University (in the Russel group). Even though the LLB is a oversea qualifying law degree. I know I must then pursue a GDL and LPC. But the fact that my LLB is from a foreign country (France) would be a disqualifying criteria ?

    Thanks for you help!
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    (Original post by fslawymb)
    Hello guys !

    I would like to know if it's possible for an international student to secure a TC, with only an LLM from a University (in the Russel group). Even though the LLB is a oversea qualifying law degree. I know I must then pursue a GDL and LPC. But the fact that my LLB is from a foreign country (France) would be a disqualifying criteria ?

    Thanks for you help!
    Not an issue at all and definitely doesn't disqualify you. Many firms will have around 50% of their intake needing to complete the GDL, so that's not the issue.

    The main thing is trying to explain why you going to commit to life/a career in the UK if you have only lived there for a year.


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    (Original post by J-SP)
    Not an issue at all and definitely doesn't disqualify you. Many firms will have around 50% of their intake needing to complete the GDL, so that's not the issue.

    The main thing is trying to explain why you going to commit to life/a career in the UK if you have only lived there for a year.
    Alright, thank you for your answer
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    (Original post by kaye88)
    im an intl student who recently secured a tc as well, happy to ans your queries
    Hello ! Please can you tell me more about visa requirements. Is it true that we have to find a training contract offering more than 30.000 pound per year minimum ? As they recently raised the "appropriate salary" required.

    Thank you in advance
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    (Original post by fslawymb)
    Hello ! Please can you tell me more about visa requirements. Is it true that we have to find a training contract offering more than 30.000 pound per year minimum ? As they recently raised the "appropriate salary" required.

    Thank you in advance
    If you are switching from a tier 4 visa, then the threshold is much lower (just over £20k), but if not switching from a student visa then it will be £30k.

    The vast majority of firms who can or will sponsor a trainee's visa are likely to be paying over £30k anyway - there won't be many who have the licence/budget/rationale to sponsor a visa who are paying less than £30k.


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    Hello!

    I am also an international student who will be transferring to a Russell Group university this coming September to complete my LLB degree as I am doing a credit transfer programme in my home country. I am also interested in gaining a training contract but I am facing a few difficulties:-

    First of all, I did not meet the minimum requirement of Alevels that most firms want in the UK which is ABB, I only got a CDD for my Alevels. Will my Alevel results affect my application while trying to secure a training contract despite I've gained a 2:1 in my 1st and 2nd year? Also, I am not looking for any big firms as I know I am not academically qualified to enter as well.

    Secondly, if I intend to start LPC in September 2018, does it mean I have to start my application now in order to gain a 2019 TC? As I will be graduating in June 2018.

    Furthermore, what if I didn't secure any TC and still go ahead and complete my LPC, as I don't mind working as a paralegal in any of the firms in England & Wales until I get a TC. Any pieces of advice for doing so?

    Thank you!!
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    (Original post by chanmg)
    Hello!

    I am also an international student who will be transferring to a Russell Group university this coming September to complete my LLB degree as I am doing a credit transfer programme in my home country. I am also interested in gaining a training contract but I am facing a few difficulties:-

    First of all, I did not meet the minimum requirement of Alevels that most firms want in the UK which is ABB, I only got a CDD for my Alevels. Will my Alevel results affect my application while trying to secure a training contract despite I've gained a 2:1 in my 1st and 2nd year? Also, I am not looking for any big firms as I know I am not academically qualified to enter as well.

    Secondly, if I intend to start LPC in September 2018, does it mean I have to start my application now in order to gain a 2019 TC? As I will be graduating in June 2018.

    Furthermore, what if I didn't secure any TC and still go ahead and complete my LPC, as I don't mind working as a paralegal in any of the firms in England & Wales until I get a TC. Any pieces of advice for doing so?

    Thank you!!
    Unfortunately your A-levels will have a big impact on how many firms view your application.

    When you say international student, do you mean outside of the EU? If so, then the difficulty you have is that smaller firms are less likely to be able to sponsor your work permit.

    Paralegal roles are also less likely to be able to sponsor a work permit, unless they have a fluency in language requirement.

    And to make things even more difficult with work permits, it becomes more difficult if you have any time out between finishing your LPC and starting a training contract (e.g. having a gap between your visas), so if you want to start your LPC in 2018, you definitely need to start applying for TCs now.
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    (Original post by chanmg)
    Hello!

    I am also an international student who will be transferring to a Russell Group university this coming September to complete my LLB degree as I am doing a credit transfer programme in my home country. I am also interested in gaining a training contract but I am facing a few difficulties:-

    First of all, I did not meet the minimum requirement of Alevels that most firms want in the UK which is ABB, I only got a CDD for my Alevels. Will my Alevel results affect my application while trying to secure a training contract despite I've gained a 2:1 in my 1st and 2nd year? Also, I am not looking for any big firms as I know I am not academically qualified to enter as well.

    Secondly, if I intend to start LPC in September 2018, does it mean I have to start my application now in order to gain a 2019 TC? As I will be graduating in June 2018.

    Furthermore, what if I didn't secure any TC and still go ahead and complete my LPC, as I don't mind working as a paralegal in any of the firms in England & Wales until I get a TC. Any pieces of advice for doing so?

    Thank you!!
    I think we need to be brutally realistic about your prospects. As an international student (and I'm assuming you are from outside the EEA) you will need a Tier 2 visa to work in the UK, both during a TC and afterwards. That means you would need to find a TC with a firm that holds a sponsor licence, AND one that is also willing to sponsor a tier 2 visa for you. To achieve the latter you will need to be better than that firm's other TC candidates.

    The sort of firms that are willing to sponsor trainees, are also the ones that are most competitive. They are simply not going to accept A level grades of CDD. These grades are a major problem for your future prospects.

    In my view, the likelihood of you securing both a tier 2 visa and a training contract are so low, that it would be financial madness for you to spend a fortune studying the LPC if you have not secured a training contract. By all means try applying for some TCs this year but if you are unsuccessful then I would strongly recommend that you try to qualify as a lawyer in your own country rather than investing time, money and emotion trying to qualify in the UK.

    Sorry.
 
 
 
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