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    Hilary Clinton is better than Trump any day.
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    (Original post by ivybridge)
    Hilary Clinton is better than Trump any day.
    you'd rather have a corporate puppet that will serve the banks and corporations instead of the middle class, alright
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    (Original post by Aj12)
    Trump contradicts himself on a daily basis. To the point where even his flagship build a wall policy is likely to be backtracked on. Clinton is certainly dishonest. But Trump is far far worse. Plus let's not forget he used to consider her a friend and an excellent secretary of state.

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    (Original post by Zargabaath)
    Hillary is seriously vile. Not as vile as Trump, but pretty vile none the less.

    Bernie is the best choice for the world imo.
    Ron Paul seems and alright guy too, although I disagree with him on a couple of issues
    Ron Paul is racist.






    His rhetoric is almost psychotically in denial of racial police brutality, rampant in 90s America which is what he's writing about here, and the long history between people of color and whites. He is not someone who needs to be President because he would undermine, triviliase and ignore such issues. Instead of providing or creating efficient ways to remedy or stop them, which is literally the role of a president/politician.
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    (Original post by Can'tStumpTrump)
    you'd rather have a corporate puppet that will serve the banks and corporations instead of the middle class, alright
    I'd rather have neither. America is blind - Trump is a blatant demagogue.
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    (Original post by ivybridge)
    Trump is a blatant demagogue.
    Fair enough, but the priority now is to avoid another corporate president (to block the devastating TTP and TTIP trade deals) .. I would be happy with either Trump or Sanders tbh
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    trump or hilarry isnt much of a choice is it.

    but then we have corbyn or osbourne to look forward too :puke:
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    (Original post by Can'tStumpTrump)
    Fair enough, but the priority now is to avoid another corporate president (to block the devastating TTP and TTIP trade deals) .. I would be happy with either Trump or Sanders tbh
    Sanders is the most ideal.
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    I honestly am more inclined to support Trump (if it ends up being her vs Trump) as you honestly do not know what you're gonna get with Clinton, she's completely untrustworthy and changes her opinions in a second.

    At least we all know the extent of Trump's ...''boldness''.
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    (Original post by ivybridge)
    Sanders is the most ideal.
    That's not the point, I'm saying if Hillary wins the nomination will pro-Bernie people switch to Trump instead of corporate whore Clinton ? I sure hope so.
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    (Original post by Inexorably)
    I honestly am more inclined to support Trump (if it ends up being her vs Trump) as you honestly do not know what you're gonna get with Clinton, she's completely untrustworthy and changes her opinions in a second.

    At least we all know the extent of Trump's ...''boldness''.
    She represents absolutely everything that's wrong with US politics. It's a shame the Democrat voters can't see that. Trump is an ass - we all know this. Hilary's faults are less conspicuous, however, which makes her all the more dangerous. To me, she's like the evil Queen in Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs.

    I don't consider myself a socialist, but I truly hope Sanders wins the Democratic nomination.
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    (Original post by Can'tStumpTrump)
    That's not the point, I'm saying if Hillary wins the nomination will pro-Bernie people switch to Trump instead of corporate whore Clinton ? I sure hope so.
    I don't because he will be a disaster. Trump is an ******* who hates minorities and doesn't understand the way the real world works mate. I think Clinton would do more for the people than he would. Much more. But that's just my opinion - Trump isn't fit, he's a simple demagogue.
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    (Original post by ivybridge)
    Trump is an ******* who hates minorities
    No, he doesn't. He's against illegal immigration.. If you think he hates anyone please provide proof.

    (Original post by ivybridge)
    doesn't understand the way the real world works mate.
    Trump denounced the Iraq war back in 2003, and predicted the destabilization of the middle east which brought all the problems we have today .. Clinton didn't learn anything because she authorized the invasion of Libya which brought another mess with ISIS taking over the county .. Clinton is an incompetent and dangerous leader.

    (Original post by ivybridge)
    I think Clinton would do more for the people than he would.
    Do you know how much money Clinton got from the banks ? Millions of dollars, she will do what special interests tell her to do exactly like what happened with Obama.

    Also, Trump has a tax plan that will cut taxes for the middle class and make corporations pay their fair share and remove tax loopholes.
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    (Original post by Can'tStumpTrump)
    No, he doesn't. He's against illegal immigration.. If you think he hates anyone please provide proof.



    Trump denounced the Iraq war back in 2003, and predicted the destabilization of the middle east which brought all the problems we have today .. Clinton didn't learn anything because she authorized the invasion of Libya which brought another mess with ISIS taking over the county .. Clinton is an incompetent and dangerous leader.



    Do you know how much money Clinton got from the banks ? Millions of dollars, she will do what special interests tell her to do exactly like what happened with Obama.

    Also, Trump has a tax plan that will cut taxes for the middle class and make corporations pay their fair share and remove tax loopholes.
    Mate I don't even want this debate, like, you can find things to back your point and I can find things to back mine; it's politics? Everyone is at each other's throats.

    I personally prefer Clinton, you prefer Trump, end of. I've seen a lot of stuff where Trump has made various very controversial, harmful, comments. I respect your view - please respect mine and don't try to have an argument with me about it. It's not worth it. I agree to disagree, do the same. Cheers.
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    (Original post by ivybridge)
    Mate I don't even want this debate, like, you can find things to back your point and I can find things to back mine; it's politics? Everyone is at each other's throats.

    I personally prefer Clinton, you prefer Trump, end of. I've seen a lot of stuff where Trump has made various very controversial, harmful, comments. I respect your view - please respect mine and don't try to have an argument with me about it. It's not worth it. I agree to disagree, do the same. Cheers.
    If you have this attitude avoid the D&CA forum entirely then.. Chat is waiting for you.
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    (Original post by Gryffindorian)
    Ron Paul is racist.






    His rhetoric is almost psychotically in denial of racial police brutality, rampant in 90s America which is what he's writing about here, and the long history between people of color and whites. He is not someone who needs to be President because he would undermine, triviliase and ignore such issues. Instead of providing or creating efficient ways to remedy or stop them, which is literally the role of a president/politician.



    In the centre that is Don Black, one of America's most notorious neo-Nazis a former member of the KKK and a man who was imprisoned for attempting an armed attack on a Caribbean nation. (On the right is his son, who has since become an anti-racist and all round good guy)

    Paul is a vile man.
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    (Original post by Can'tStumpTrump)
    If you have this attitude avoid the D&CA forum entirely then.. Chat is waiting for you.
    No I just have it with people like you. You support an idiot, i.e. you must be pretty deluded, i.e. you aren't going yo be influenced and as such the discussion is pointless because you'll just go on and on and it's boring.
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    (Original post by Feel Tha Bern)


    In the centre that is Don Black, one of America's most notorious neo-Nazis a former member of the KKK and a man who was imprisoned for attempting an armed attack on a Caribbean nation. (On the right is his son, who has since become an anti-racist and all round good guy)

    Paul is a vile man.
    Don Black has a horrible race hate forum!!!!!! (I won't say the name to not advertise)
    Is this a ****ing joke, please tell me!
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    (Original post by ivybridge)
    No I just have it with people like you. You support an idiot, i.e. you must be pretty deluded, i.e. you aren't going yo be influenced and as such the discussion is pointless because you'll just go on and on and it's boring.
    Yea. Just look at his username :erm:.
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    (Original post by Gryffindorian)
    Don Black has a horrible race hate forum!!!!!! (I won't say the name to not advertise)
    Is this a ****ing joke, please tell me!
    Paul has always been scum, you must have seen his homophobic outburst in the Bruno film, he's not a libertarian, he's a social conservative.
 
 
 
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