CSM or LCC for Graphics

I went to CSM today for their degree show and was seriously unimpressed. Everything seemed so pretentious and trying to be 'different' when in face most stuff just looked the same. There was a sense everyone there was carried away by the fact they go to Saint Martins so therefore they can do what they like and people will think its amazing when frankly, personally i thought the degree pieces just wern't all that. And the 'graphics' pieces were ridiculous, almost none of the work had been done on a computer. Basically by the looks of things, if you're going to CSM to do graphics, you better like doing art

To be honest with you, both CSM and LCC are sucks as colleges as a whole. I work for the student union and I represent a couple thousands of students across the uni. I have never heard ANY positive comments about all 5 colleges under the UAL. So I really have no idea why are we so famous, none of us do... but yeah, if you want the name then got for CSM, but I think LCC would be slightly better since they have just had a new graphic dept. Bastard, using all the money so we photography dept has nothing left. I hate the graphic dept to bits, but it's just me...

Hi there, I am telling you the management is not willing and we doubt the will even be willing to improve anything. About the equipments, dont get me started on that, they are all RUBBISH, absolutely rubbish, both LCC and CSM, and I believe they are not a lot better at the other 4 colleges. Teaching and supporting is nearly none, we have started sth called reading week, come on, it's an art college, artists dont read anyway, I mean we probably dont need to read as much as other subject such as laws or business. A reading week we think is an excuse for the tutors to go awasy and have a extra PAID week off, coz whenever reading week happens, almost all tutors are not around. What an old fashion uni we are, apart from the new LearnZone that remains onpen till 11pm, all other facilitites close at 8:30pm the lastest, what the hell is it? And for teh LearnZone, the student had been flighting for more that 2 years to have it built, and although it's a sucess, coz the students love it, but the managment hates it, coz it cost the "extra" money to have it open, extra staff, anything is seen as extra by the managment, A group of ass holes really. Go ask anyone at the uni, from people who work in different to technicans to students to even the cleaners, if you can find a way to make them talk honestly, you would knwo how horrible the uni is actually is. I happened have to lead some facilities tour, and I had to lie about how good LCC is, bull****, I so much wanted to tell all the students to just go home and find a better uni, any other uni in the world is far better than us. I had a chat with a staff the other day abt why are we being so famous, we think it's just because we happened to have a lot of talented people we came to us. And the honestly, who are the most recently successful artists coming from us? 10 years ago? We are going down hill, this is the fact, I am glad I am levaing soon. About the final year shows? Catching attention? Yeah right, once in mant years, how many people are picked from their shows? One? Two? Three? I will give you four as max. Well, to be fair, if any of you guys wanna join us, you better be quick, we think within the next 10 years, the whole dream of UAL would go, so you better be quick. If you want the name, then welcome to the clud you sad people, but if you want proper teaching and getting sth properly out of your degree, honestly, go somewhere else, at the end of the day, it doesnt where you have studied, it is all down to your portfolio.

Sorry if I am being a bit too over the top, but having worked in the SU since day one of being at this uni, I have seen, heard and experienced too much, and if I was god, I would say this university doesn deserve to be here in terms of the stupid management and absolutely rubbish teaching quality.