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    (Original post by Truths)
    Maybe, maybe not Idk. It's not a competition. The important conversation at hand is representation and power. Not who is the most oppressed.
    Then why are you making it about whites vs. non-whites, rather than poor vs. rich, which is the divide that matters most?
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    (Original post by MildredMalone)
    But what about Germans and Europeans?!
    They are 'too white'
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    (Original post by Mathemagicien)
    Then why are you making it about whites vs. non-whites, rather than poor vs. rich, which is the divide that matters most?
    Because in this case it is the non-whites who are being disenfranchised. And it is the whites who are given disproportionate power...
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    (Original post by Truths)
    Because in this case it is the non-whites who are being disenfranchised. And it is the whites who are given disproportionate power...
    No; everyone in those states are given disproportionate power, not just whites. It so happens that they are disproportionately white. Some states have to be, by statistical necessity. It is everyone outside those states who are disenfranchised, including white people.
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    (Original post by MildredMalone)
    But what about Germans and Europeans?!
    lol good one
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    (Original post by Mathemagicien)
    No; everyone in those states are given disproportionate power, not just whites. It so happens that they are disproportionately white. Some states have to be, by statistical necessity. It is everyone outside those states who are disenfranchised, including white people.
    I guess you could make that case. Which is why I support her point about Illinois.
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    The idea that a white candidate cannot 'represent' black voters is a disappointing concept that I'm hearing. Why not? Apparently white voters largely don't care about the candidate's skin colour (case and point Obama, and Carson was popular for a while), but race is the most important thing to black voters? That's not a nice thing to imply about them.

    Vote for a candidate because of what they stand for. Sanders could arguably do more to benefit the black population than Carson, for example, and more than Obama did.

    Most states (and especially swing States) are white majorities. This does not mean the system is 'rigged' against people of colour. The system doesn't make colour a factor. And it shouldn't be a factor.
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    (Original post by Dandaman1)
    The idea that a white candidate cannot 'represent' black voters is a disappointing concept that I'm hearing. Why not? Apparently white voters largely don't care about the candidate's skin colour (case and point Obama, and Carson was popular for a while), but race is the most important thing to black voters? That's not a nice thing to imply about them.

    Vote for a candidate because of what they stand for. Sanders could arguably do more to benefit the black population than Carson, for example, and more than Obama did.

    Most states (and especially swing States) are white majorities. This does not mean the system is 'rigged' against people of colour. The system doesn't make colour a factor. And it shouldn't be a factor.
    Well put.

    There was a similar thread posted on this sub-forum a few days ago, which suggested that racial minorities need to have their own representatives in politics. This is a highly divisive and foolish idea to suggest in a time of globalisation. To allude to the idea that, say, a 'white' person cannot defend the rights of a 'brown' person is outright racist.
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    (Original post by Aceadria)
    This is a highly divisive and foolish idea to suggest in a time of globalisation. To allude to the idea that, say, a 'white' person cannot defend the rights of a 'brown' person is outright racist.
    Spot on.
    Similarly you hear Labour MPs saying you need more female MPs as men can't be texpected to fully represent women.
    Funny enough they are ok with women representing men.
    So MPs can only represent their own demographic? Chinese Brits are missing g out then aren't they?
 
 
 
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