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On these forums i have noticed that a lot of people are clearly ether very right or very left wing.

I myself an very left wing

I have noticed that right wing posters frequently display a range of logical fallacies and side-stepping behaviors. I have provided a small example list of these bellow to explain better what sort of thing i am talking about.

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Do left wing posters on these forums frequently display any logical fallacies or side-stepping behaviors? If so what are they?

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- Attacking the poster rather than the argument. There are a range of variations on this ranging from insults to projecting negative character traits/motives onto the poster (for example claiming "jelousy/envy").

- Use of buzzwords which seam to add nothing to the argument, or without any explanation of the words relevance. Typical examples are "communist" and "socialism"

- Taking a single trivial or irrelevant mistake, making a large comment on it and ignoring the rest of the argument.

- Ignoring evidence and topic relevant questions put forward by other posters.

- Falsely claiming that other posters have ignored their questions (sometimes this may be preceded by an irrelevant off topic question which of course the other posters legitimately ignore) (This is similar to my first point)

- Straw man arguments

- slippery slope falacies

- Making statements about another persons beliefs/motives and then continuing the conversation as if it were true.
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bein left footed, I prefer playing on the right-wing coz then I can cut in and shoot.
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Lots of people do this, not just people who are right wing. It stems from a lack of evidence for their argument and a lack of knowledge about how to debate.
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Lots of people do this, not just people who are right wing. It stems from a lack of evidence for their argument and a lack of knowledge about how to debate.
but arjen robben is right wing and he always gets decisions in his favour..??
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(Original post by megaman70)
On these forums i have noticed that a lot of people are clearly ether very right or very left wing.

I myself an very left wing

I have noticed that right wing posters frequently display a range of logical fallacies and side-stepping behaviors. I have provided a small example list of these bellow to explain better what sort of thing i am talking about.

My question is
Do left wing posters on these forums frequently display any logical fallacies or side-stepping behaviors? If so what are they?

The list
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- Attacking the poster rather than the argument. There are a range of variations on this ranging from insults to projecting negative character traits/motives onto the poster (for example claiming "jelousy/envy".

- Taking a single trivial or irrelevant mistake, making a large comment on it and ignoring the rest of the argument.

- Ignoring evidence and topic relevant questions put forward by other posters.

- Falsely claiming that other posters have ignored their questions (sometimes this may be preceded by an irrelevant off topic question which of course the other posters legitimately ignore) (This is similar to my first point)

- Straw man arguments

- slippery slope falacies

- Making statements about another persons beliefs/motives and then continuing the conversation as if it were true.
Just as many left wing people do these things as right wing, coming from someone who is fairly 'in the middle' .
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(Original post by milliemogs)
Just as many left wing people do these things as right wing, coming from someone who is fairly 'in the middle' .
what are the left wing specific ones
(IE left wing people are unlikely to come out with buzzwords such as "communist")
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(IE left wing people are unlikely to come out with buzzwords such as "communist")
they come out with buzzwords such as "refugee"
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(Original post by megaman70)
what are the left wing specific ones
(IE left wing people are unlikely to come out with buzzwords such as "communist"
They are likely to come out with buzzwords such as "fascist".
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I could literally mirror this list of examples of "right wing" characteristics but say that left wingers feature it. this really isn't logical at all.
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Left-wingers do this just as much and just as worse.

They often call right-wingers "bigots" purely just because they're right-wingers. They clearly don't know that the definition of that word is 'someone who's intolerate of someone else's views', or if they do for some reason think that their intolerance is exempt from this. These people seem to think just because they're left-wing they think the term 'bigot' can't apply to them and it's that self-righteous, arrogant view that puts me off calling myself left-wing.

But, as you pointed out, right-wingers do their own version of it also. I'm just pointing out that some people on both sides are like that, for some reason.
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I think the problem with both sides is that the right wing paint everyone with the same brush and the left wing pretend that problems don't exist. I'm mostly left leaning but don't live in Corbyn's champagne socialist fantasy land.
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Welcome to TSR OP. If you're looking for logical, balanced arguments on here, you're gonna have a bad time.
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Welcome to TSR OP. If you're looking for logical, balanced arguments on here, you're gonna have a bad time.
You forgot to tell him that if he didn't get A-star in every test from age 4 then he'll be condemned to the workhouse.
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