Mi5 careers

It doesn't matter what degree you've got if you go around not only telling people, but posting on the internet, that you want to apply to the security services.

How stupid are you?

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Worzo

It doesn't matter what degree you've got if you go around not only telling people, but posting on the internet, that you want to apply to the security services.

How stupid are you?

wtf are you on about?

It's not like he's revealing his personal details in his user profile, i.e. his name and address etc...and other telling vital-statistics.

How about keeping your hair on?

The OP is requesting information, albeit lazily, off users from TSR, he's assuming people off TSR will know something about the careers in MI5...
he's simply asking for information, and yes, of course TSR website will be the first port of call for terrorist organizations to gather intelligence on British security services and recent, current or prospective recruits...(sarcasm).

Reply 3

white_haired_wizard

wtf are you on about?

It's not like he's revealing his personal details in his user profile, i.e. his name and address etc...and other telling vital-statistics.

How about keeping your hair on?

The OP is requesting information, albeit lazily, off users from TSR, he's assuming people off TSR will know something about the careers in MI5...
he's simply asking for information, and yes, of course TSR website will be the first port of call for terrorist organizations to gather intelligence on British security services and recent, current or prospective recruits...(sarcasm).

You should probably do your research before you say things like this. The Security Services require that you tell virtually no one about your intentions to apply to MI5. The only people you may tell are close members of your family.

So given this, do you now see why the OP was making a huge mistake? I'll give you a hint - it's mainly not because Al-Qaeda terrorists want to target members of the security services. Think harder. (And the internet is more powerful than you're giving it credit for).

Reply 4

veni, vidi, vici

OP

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Worzo

You should probably do your research before you say things like this. The Security Services require that you tell virtually no one about your intentions to apply to MI5. The only people you may tell are close members of your family.

So given this, do you now see why the OP was making a huge mistake? I'll give you a hint - it's mainly not because Al-Qaeda terrorists want to target members of the security services. Think harder. (And the internet is more powerful than you're giving it credit for).

fair enough advice, i soon realised after making my post that i shouldn't have done so..a young man's mistake.i haven't applied and probably won't apply i was just asking but thanks anyways :smile:

Reply 5

icklebrov

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This has always struck me as the kind of career that sounds really really exciting, but probably day to day isn't and is probably relatively low paid and when you do do something amazing you can't even tell anyone about it. What's the point? - yes i know you will all blab on about personal satisfaction and saving the world.

Reply 6

Chrrye

Dunno. Some parts will surely be interesting. If people are searching for some kind of meaning for their lives, beyond the mundane and widespread persual of wealth, then this kind of career does offer them a little more.

But it is sure to be not much like TVfilms.
Like Spooks. Which was good in the first series but then got lamer. And thev killed everyone off now. So I hope they dont bring it back.

Reply 7

Chrrye

beyond the mundane and widespread persual of wealth

pursuit

Reply 8

fais

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x.narb.x

Also as an operational officer I heard that you have to be less than 6ft but it says nothing on their website, is this true?

Less than 6ft?

Reply 9

Chrrye

Worzo

pursuit

Yeah. I had a bad feeling about that word. Nonexistence or ungrammar(< !) is usually the reason.

Reply 10

alastair

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x.narb.x

I was wondering about careers in Mi5/SIS too, it sounds like it'd be really cool but as someone else said the likelihood of you living a James Bond lifestyle is slim and the day to day work would probably be quite boring. Then theres also the possibility of being sent abroad at any moment and the possibility of going to hostile countries etc.

Also as an operational officer I heard that you have to be less than 6ft but it says nothing on their website, is this true?

I remember this a couple of years back. It was an unofficial official thing if you get what I mean. According to that they had been doing it for years but only recently had started making it better known, its meant to be all about blending in.

Reply 11

fais

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x.narb.x

Yeh? Shorter?Smaller? What do you mean?

Sorry, just found it weird.. I've heard of minimum heights but not maximum for entry into a profession.

Don't the police prescribe a minimum height? I assumed Mi5 would be the same. :s-smilie:

Reply 12

Worzo

You should probably do your research before you say things like this. The Security Services require that you tell virtually no one about your intentions to apply to MI5. The only people you may tell are close members of your family.

So given this, do you now see why the OP was making a huge mistake? I'll give you a hint - it's mainly not because Al-Qaeda terrorists want to target members of the security services. Think harder. (And the internet is more powerful than you're giving it credit for).

the OP was enquiring about Mi5 careers. At the enquiring stage, not the applying stage. And as already mentioned, it's not like he's given away personal details in his profile, i.e name and address...

you're looking into things a bit too much. ENQUIRING. Lots enquire but once they know what it can be all about, they don't find it appealing AT ALL...google Mi5 or the line "I'm interested in finding out about Mi5 careers", and there'll probably be a host of avenues to explore, sites of information etc...ENQUIRING isn't applying, the OP is simply showing an inquisitive mind, wanting to become endowed with more knowledge. I'm quite sure a shed load of others have done the same thing, will do the same thing...a bloody small minority of whom will apply, an even smaller number will prove successful in application, etc...and those who are successful will probably be, ultimately, working in very dull capacities, far removed from this stereotypical image of cool car, nice weapons and sexy girls @ every port, etc...probably working in the HQs in London, or are they in London as mentioned...?? :confused:

Reply 13

white_haired_wizard

the OP was enquiring about Mi5 careers. At the enquiring stage, not the applying stage. And as already mentioned, it's not like he's given away personal details in his profile, i.e name and address...

Can I ask where you've got your apparently authoritative knowledge of the security services from? Because what you're saying doesn't correlate with what I've heard from people I know who've had contact with spooks.

Reply 14

Worzo

Can I ask where you've got your apparently authoritative knowledge of the security services from? Because what you're saying doesn't correlate with what I've heard from people I know who've had contact with spooks.

I'm simply saying it's not like the OP has been revealing personal details about himself, i.e. vital statistics that could lead to him being 'hunted down'...

and i repeat, it's an enquiry, he's enquiring....it's really quite simple.

I quote OP

"i haven't applied and probably won't apply i was just asking but thanks anyways" = pretty blaise about the whole thing really? He was 'just asking'..."thanks ANYWAYS"...

and it's great to hear that these spooks are telling others about their situations and then their experiences are being passed on to someone else, sounds like a chain of events to me. Bodes well for the security services, in all :rolleyes:

But of course, you're all 'family', very close relationships and discretion and keeping schtum remains throughout :rolleyes:

you say you've had contact with people who know or have interacted with spooks. You're totally contradicting yourself with this. You've put yourself in a more 'precarious' position than the OP did, when simply enquiring about Mi5 careers. Why, the terrorist organizations of the world, now are aware that a TSR user knows and has spoken to some ppl who have interacted with spooks....if anyone was to be hunted down on TSR, it would now be you. Well done :wink:

Reply 15

white_haired_wizard

you say you've had contact with people who know or have interacted with spooks. You're totally contradicting yourself with this. You've put yourself in a more 'precarious' position than the OP did, when simply enquiring about Mi5 careers. Why, the terrorist organizations of the world, now are aware that a TSR user knows and has spoken to some ppl who have interacted with spooks....if anyone was to be hunted down on TSR, it would now be you. Well done :wink:

Yeeeeah. You still don't get the point that it's not about terrorist organisations hunting down people - you've watched too much Spooks. There's reasons why it's a bad idea to do what he did. And in any case, the police, for example, run into the security services all the time. The fact I've spoken to a police officer who's dealt with them doesn't mean squat. You're just showing that you don't really know what you're talking about.

And I was giving the OP good advice based on the idea that he might be serious about applying. I don't understand why you're being so argumentative about the whole thing.

Reply 16

Cexy

I constantly want to thump my head against a wall in sheer disbelief at the number of questions getting asked here that could be answered by using Google for 30 seconds. Here's the MI5 website:

www.mi5.gov.uk

which I didn't even need to Google, as it's so blindingly obvious, and here are three selected quotes from it:

MI5

Contrary to media reporting, we do not just recruit people under 5"11. There is a height restriction in place for our mobile surveillance recruitment campaign, but no such restrictions exist for any of the other campaigns. You can be tall and work for the Security Service.

MI5

Our members and former members are prohibited by Section 1 of the Official Secrets Act 1989 from disclosing, without lawful authority, information relating to security or intelligence which came into their possession while in the Service.

It is clearly important that security and intelligence information is protected from unauthorised disclosure, to prevent damage being caused to our sources, operations and methods. But Section 1 is sometimes criticised as prohibiting disclosures even about such unimportant matters as the colour of the Thames House carpets (which are blue!) and the menu in the staff restaurant. These criticisms are misguided. Such matters do not fall within the scope of Section 1.

MI5

[RE: Intelligence Officer positons] Discretion is important to the Service, so please only discuss this application with your partner and/or immediate family.

Reply 17

Worzo

Yeeeeah. You still don't get the point that it's not about terrorist organisations hunting down people - you've watched too much Spooks. There's reasons why it's a bad idea to do what he did. And in any case, the police, for example, run into the security services all the time. The fact I've spoken to a police officer who's dealt with them doesn't mean squat. You're just showing that you don't really know what you're talking about.

And I was giving the OP good advice based on the idea that he might be serious about applying. I don't understand why you're being so argumentative about the whole thing.

"The fact i've spoken to a police officer who's dealt with them doesn't mean squat" = Utter *******s. You've most certainly acted more reckless than the OP, which makes you yourself look utterly clumsy. You've effectively acknowledged having an access of kinds, to spooks. Just acknowledge you're a tad guilty of being contradictory and clumsy.

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