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    (Original post by CurlyBen)
    So, just to clarify, you think that small independent businesses can sell produce more cheaply whilst spending more on staffing than Tesco? Despite not having the economies of scale or the bargaining power that Tesco have? Not that I'm a fan of Tesco - I used to work on a farm that was a major supplier to Tesco, and their demands were ridiculous - but they do have lower overheads.

    For what it's worth I would have chosen to use local butchers and grocers when I was living in the UK, but their opening hours coincided very closely with my working hours. The only time they were open and I wasn't at work were Saturday mornings, when frankly I had more interesting things to be doing.
    This is precisely the point. Not that what he's suggesting doesn't come from a good place, but it's completely idealistic. It would end up destroying the economy pushing all the people that he's claiming to be helping into poverty and destitution.
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    (Original post by illegaltobepoor)
    10 steps to empower the poor and hurt the rich!

    Are you sick & tired of the ruling class creating a Britain for the rich and a rat race for the poor? Well this is how you get out of the rat race and make the rich hurt ............ badly!

    Everyone one of these points takes money out of a rich persons pocket and distributes it to people whom are poorer.

    1. Take your money out of the bank and put it inside a credit union or building society which is fully committed to building social housing and lending to sole trader businesses.

    2. Do as much as your grocery shopping as possible with local wholesalers such as Butchers, Greengrocers, Bakers, Bargain shops and create a local price club bulk buying group.

    3. Go complete green mode for your energy & heating needs & build your own infrastructure.

    4. Watch news from local people on Social Media rather than listening to the main channels.

    5. Put a water butt on your property connected to all roofs and use grey-water for the garden.

    6. Get involved in sharing a car, opt for bicycle travel or kick start a nonprofit bus route.

    7. Buy your clothes from small traders and market stores.

    8. Join local campaigns to create public spaces for homeless people so they can gain some stability back in their lives.

    9. Get on board with online petitions and group protesting to shift democracy in the working classes favor.

    10. Never ever vote Conservative.

    Thanks. Memorised.
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    At first I thought you were a liar, now I just think you're a troll, these things do **** all for poor people.
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    All great suggestions!!
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    (Original post by CurlyBen)
    So, just to clarify, you think that small independent businesses can sell produce more cheaply whilst spending more on staffing than Tesco? Despite not having the economies of scale or the bargaining power that Tesco have? Not that I'm a fan of Tesco - I used to work on a farm that was a major supplier to Tesco, and their demands were ridiculous - but they do have lower overheads.

    For what it's worth I would have chosen to use local butchers and grocers when I was living in the UK, but their opening hours coincided very closely with my working hours. The only time they were open and I wasn't at work were Saturday mornings, when frankly I had more interesting things to be doing.
    If high street shops unite into buying groups they can use their unity to do the same thing as Tesco.

    You do raise a good point though. I think high street shops would have a lot to gain if they adjusted their opening hours. This is the kind of progress that you get with a well informed working class though.

    Its all about being above par and not joining the herd because a wealthy capitalist loves nothing more than dumb sheep that stands in a 2000 person que to get the latest Iphone.
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    (Original post by Feel Tha Bern)
    At first I thought you were a liar, now I just think you're a troll, these things do **** all for poor people.
    He is a troll -- go look at under the 'About me' section of his profile.
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    (Original post by Hydeman)
    He is a troll -- go look at under the 'About me' section of his profile.
    maybe he is a right wing person who says this stuff to make left-wing people look like idiots :curious:
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    (Original post by Feel Tha Bern)
    maybe he is a right wing person who says this stuff to make left-wing people look like idiots :curious:
    Could be. He did claim to be a day trader, after all (even if that later turned out to be a lie).
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    (Original post by illegaltobepoor)
    If high street shops unite into buying groups they can use their unity to do the same thing as Tesco.
    Now that's a thought to get farmers jumping for joy eh? In any case it still doesn't make it realistic for small retailers to sell more for less whilst employing more people than Tesco. Tesco enjoy many other economies of scale, and it may have escaped your notice but they've not been raking in the profits recently.

    You do raise a good point though. I think high street shops would have a lot to gain if they adjusted their opening hours. This is the kind of progress that you get with a well informed working class though.
    That's a nice idea, but in my experience (and I've worked several working class jobs) most working class people are primarily interested in keeping things as they are and collecting their pay cheque at the end of the week. There's nothing intrinsically wrong with that, but the resistance to reasonable (and sometimes necessary) change can be out of all proportion. Even if most of the workforce aren't all that bothered you typically get the union dinosaurs resisting with every fibre of their being. I've seen it happen.
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    (Original post by Feel Tha Bern)
    maybe he is a right wing person who says this stuff to make left-wing people look like idiots :curious:
    I'm a Socialist Libertarian. Someone who is incredibly hard to pin down. I vote between Labour and Conservative values. There isn't one exact answer to events that strike us in life. Events have a lot of variables and its choosing the right actions at the right time.

    Take the austerity cuts for example. I think the cuts of 2010 where necessary but the out come of those cuts has been a massive shift of wealth from the public to the private sector. Since then till now there has been zero investment in bringing down the cost of necessities of life. no investment in green technology and no investment in automation over large parts of our industries.

    The Tories are basically slinging the rich life rafts at the expense of everyone else.

    Most lefties would would condemn the Tories on every issue and most would go as far to back Obama and Bernie Sanders over in the US about how money printing is good and that there is nothing from with the US economy blah blah .................. Sorry US and UK lefties I don't drink your kool-aid. Nor do I drink the kool-aid from the right-wing.

    You can call me a troll all you like but the fact is I've brought up a good topic and 1 in 3 people agree with me.
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    (Original post by CurlyBen)
    most working class people are primarily interested in keeping things as they are and collecting their pay cheque at the end of the week. There's nothing intrinsically wrong with that, but the resistance to reasonable (and sometimes necessary) change can be out of all proportion. Even if most of the workforce aren't all that bothered you typically get the union dinosaurs resisting with every fibre of their being. I've seen it happen.
    If they don't change their stubborn attitude things will get worse. Automation will bring them to their knees and they won't even have the luxury of living in a over crowded flat. They'll be living in caravan parks and deemed the new breed of gypsy.

    What really bothers me isn't what the rich do but more or less what the working classes masses will do when they revolt. They'll most likely vote in someone more radical than Jeremy Corbyn who will be hell bent on destroying Capitalism as we know it and targeting the last remnants of the resistance against Socialism.

    Stalin did this when he murdered all the Kulaks in Ukraine. Kulaks where wealthy peasants but in todays age you could call them Doomsday Preppers.

    I identify as a Doomsday Prepper and to be quite honest with you I have zero sympathy for a working class person who isn't prepared to do the intelligent thing which will lead to a early liberation from the class of capital. Its better than the latter which is is either a Fascist or Communist state imposing its will on everyone else.

    The rich think they have everything made at the moment. Last time I checked the FTSE100 has fell 15% since April 2015. If it drops 5% more we are in recession and there will be panic.
 
 
 
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