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German Cafes Stop Selling Pork Sausages to Spare Muslim Refugees' Feelings Watch

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    (Original post by JordanL_)
    Businesses can do whatever they please. If you don't like it, stop buying from them. Welcome to capitalism.

    It's entirely their decision, but of course people are trying to pretend it's because of the nasty Muslims.
    No they can't. Look at ashers bakery
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    (Original post by JordanL_)
    Businesses can do whatever they please. If you don't like it, stop buying from them. Welcome to capitalism.
    Actually they can't.

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    (Original post by joecphillips)
    No they can't. Look at ashers bakery
    (Original post by DiddyDec)
    Actually they can't.
    If they choose not to have pork sausage in their product offering then that is their decision; they cannot be made to sell pork sausages.
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    (Original post by Good bloke)
    If they choose not to have pork sausage in their product offering then that is their decision; they cannot be made to sell pork sausages.
    And if they choose not to make a cake not supporting gay marriage?
    Is it their decision or do they get fined?
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    (Original post by joecphillips)
    And if they choose not to make a cake not supporting gay marriage?
    Is it their decision or do they get fined?
    How many sausage sellers also sell bespoke cakes? Are you sure you are in the right thread?
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    (Original post by Good bloke)
    How many sausage sellers also sell bespoke cakes? Are you sure you are in the right thread?
    I replied to someone saying businesses can do what they want.
    Ashers bakery never had a gay cake available and got in trouble for not making one.
    These cafes did have pork and have stopped selling it.
    Both are not selling a product related to what they do one is seen as acceptable and the other unacceptable there is actually little difference.
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    Isn't the right wing view of private property that the owners of it can do what they please with it?

    This isn't the state forcing these cafes to stop selling pork, the owners are choosing to. Don't see the problem if you like capitalism and despise the stupid socialists.
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    (Original post by ChaoticButterfly)
    Isn't the right wing view of private property that the owners of it can do what they please with it?

    This isn't the state forcing these cafes to stop selling pork, the owners are choosing to. Don't see the problem if you like capitalism and despise the stupid socialists.
    But that rule isn't applied consistently, if it was this story wouldn't be talked about.
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    Dem immegunts.
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    (Original post by joecphillips)
    But that rule isn't applied consistently, if it was this story wouldn't be talked about.
    So they want it to be applied to this? Even more market interference?

    But in this case it is the owners exercising their liberty over what they sell. There are no external pressures preventing them from selling pork like the state telling them not to. Unless you count human morality or wanting to attract Muslim customers as external forces, but then that's all part of the market. So again, it comes down to right wingers being authoritarians when markets don;t do what they like, in this case an influx of outsiders is scaring them and effecting what the market makes. So they want the state to exercise it's biggest authoritarian power, it's borders. Or force the shop owners to sell pork? Again authoritarian.
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    (Original post by joecphillips)
    I replied to someone saying businesses can do what they want.
    Ashers bakery never had a gay cake available and got in trouble for not making one.
    These cafes did have pork and have stopped selling it.
    Both are not selling a product related to what they do one is seen as acceptable and the other unacceptable there is actually little difference.
    The two situations are entirely different. The bakery's problem was concerning a service (the addition of a political message to a cake), not the supply of a product. The business provides a service, but, the court decided, refused to sell it in a way that infringed on a protected characteristic. In this case the business has just decided not to sell a product.
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    Questionable source, which if true should just invite you to place your custom elsewhere.

    Absolutely ludicrous to suggest that wurst will die a death because of Islam.
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    Their business decision. At least it wasn't imposed upon them.
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    They come here where they're not wanted, they take all our food, pollute our city with their stink and they refuse to help the stormcloaks.
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    ^

    I need to say my comment is a reference to a game called skyrim and isn't supposed to be taken seriously.

    I'm not a racist turd.
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    Omg there are vegan cafes in Berlin, us damned immigrant vegans taking over, demanding the Germans open whole cafes without meat or cheese to spare our feelings!!!!
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    (Original post by rockrunride)
    Questionable source, which if true should just invite you to place your custom elsewhere.

    Absolutely ludicrous to suggest that wurst will die a death because of Islam.
    Exactly. I've never heard a stupid argument like this used against the growing numbers of veggies and vegans, for example. We don't tend to look obviously different, see.
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    (Original post by ChaoticButterfly)
    So they want it to be applied to this? Even more market interference?

    But in this case it is the owners exercising their liberty over what they sell. There are no external pressures preventing them from selling pork like the state telling them not to. Unless you count human morality or wanting to attract Muslim customers as external forces, but then that's all part of the market. So again, it comes down to right wingers being authoritarians when markets don;t do what they like, in this case an influx of outsiders is scaring them and effecting what the market makes. So they want the state to exercise it's biggest authoritarian power, it's borders. Or force the shop owners to sell pork? Again authoritarian.
    So it is ok to criminalise a Christians belief on gay marriage but allow a Muslims belief on pork, it has to be applied consistently either way not attack one and not the other
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    (Original post by Good bloke)
    The two situations are entirely different. The bakery's problem was concerning a service (the addition of a political message to a cake), not the supply of a product. The business provides a service, but, the court decided, refused to sell it in a way that infringed on a protected characteristic. In this case the business has just decided not to sell a product.
    And the bakery refused to sell a product
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    I'm the first to critique Merkel's response to the migrant crisis, but as someone who has extensively traveled around Germany, I very much doubt pork will ever stop being served in cafés and/or restaurants.
 
 
 
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