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    I'm trying to decide wether to go to Manchester or UCL this coming academic year and I am at a complete loss. I will be studying physics and intend to go on to do at least a masters in the field, if not more. However, I am not sure that I will ultimately end up working in the area. Please help?
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    (Original post by izzysavoy)
    I'm trying to decide wether to go to Manchester or UCL this coming academic year and I am at a complete loss. I will be studying physics and intend to go on to do at least a masters in the field, if not more. However, I am not sure that I will ultimately end up working in the area. Please help?
    Do you want to live in London or Manchester?
    Which is closest to home? Is that a good thing?
    What are the accommodation costs like at each university?
    What sort of transport costs will you have to get to uni every day?
    Have a look at unistats: https://unistats.direct.gov.uk/Subje...eturnTo/Search and https://unistats.direct.gov.uk/Subje...eturnTo/Search
    Click through the tabs
    - are any of the areas that students aren't satisfied with the course worrying to you?
    - are you comfortable with the employment prospects - look at the % unemployed, the % in non professional jobs and the areas of work
    - Are you happy with the amount of time in lectures and the % coursework/exams?

    Have a look on university review sites (although remember students will tend to either be glowing or really negative when making reviews)
    http://university.which.co.uk/univer...manchester-m20 and http://university.which.co.uk/univer...-of-london-u80
    http://www.thecompleteuniversityguid...tudent-reviews and http://www.thecompleteuniversityguid...tudent-reviews

    Compare the which? information:
    http://university.which.co.uk/univer...00-f305-285059 and http://university.which.co.uk/univer...000-f303-78732
    UCL has slightly more girls and slightly more international students. Does that matter to you?

    Look at the modules available - can you specialise in the subjects that matter to you?
    Look at the student union websites
    - can you get involved in activities that you'd enjoy?
    - does the social side of things look like your sort of thing?
    - what are sports/media/performing arts opportunities like? Does that matter to you?

    Have you visited both? Can you visit again over the easter break? Usually if you contact universities they'll be able to help. You could even try to arrange to stay over in halls and ask to be put in touch with a current student who could show you around and give you some insight into what's good or bad about the course.
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    Manchester is cheaper..

    You haven't said what your priorities are.. Cost of living? Accommodation? Reputation (please don't pick a uni based on rep only)? Standard of teaching? Number of contact hours? There are loads of things you must consider. The key thing is to remember that /you/ will be the only living and studying there so ultimately it is /you/ who has to make that final decision. Best thing to do, in my opinion, is visit both and have a wander around the city. See which one gives you a better feeling.. People here are probably going to be slightly biased towards the one they go to..

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    (Original post by izzysavoy)
    I'm trying to decide wether to go to Manchester or UCL this coming academic year and I am at a complete loss. I will be studying physics and intend to go on to do at least a masters in the field, if not more. However, I am not sure that I will ultimately end up working in the area. Please help?
    Manchester is slightly better for Physics than UCL and is cheaper accommodation wise. However, UCL is :heart: as it's in the heart of everything I.e London night>all + Is slightly less noticeable for Physics than Manchester but > internationally.


    I've been to them both and personally I'd choose UCL. GL !
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    Manchester is slightly better for Physics than UCL and is cheaper accommodation wise. However, UCL is :heart: as it's in the heart of everything I.e London night>all + Is slightly less noticeable for Physics than Manchester but > internationally.


    I've been to them both and personally I'd choose UCL. GL !
    When you say that you've been to them both, do you mean to study or to visit? My problem is that I know both London and Manchester very well, and am a little in love with both cities, though for different reasons. Both universities also offer a wide array of opportunities but in different ways. Machester is obviously the better uni for physics, however, I am also aware that at undergraduate level the courses will all be very similar irrelevant of the departments individual reputation. Then UCL offers a lot of opportunities on a more international scale, having a more internationally recognised name, and of course is in the very center of one of the most important cities in the world. On the other hand, ultimately I want a university that is going to challenge and encourage me intellectually as much as possible. In short I love them both and am very confused ....
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    (Original post by PQ)
    Do you want to live in London or Manchester?
    Which is closest to home? Is that a good thing?
    What are the accommodation costs like at each university?
    What sort of transport costs will you have to get to uni every day?
    Have a look at unistats: https://unistats.direct.gov.uk/Subje...eturnTo/Search and https://unistats.direct.gov.uk/Subje...eturnTo/Search
    Click through the tabs
    - are any of the areas that students aren't satisfied with the course worrying to you?
    - are you comfortable with the employment prospects - look at the % unemployed, the % in non professional jobs and the areas of work
    - Are you happy with the amount of time in lectures and the % coursework/exams?

    Have a look on university review sites (although remember students will tend to either be glowing or really negative when making reviews)
    http://university.which.co.uk/univer...manchester-m20 and http://university.which.co.uk/univer...-of-london-u80
    http://www.thecompleteuniversityguid...tudent-reviews and http://www.thecompleteuniversityguid...tudent-reviews

    Compare the which? information:
    http://university.which.co.uk/univer...00-f305-285059 and http://university.which.co.uk/univer...000-f303-78732
    UCL has slightly more girls and slightly more international students. Does that matter to you?

    Look at the modules available - can you specialise in the subjects that matter to you?
    Look at the student union websites
    - can you get involved in activities that you'd enjoy?
    - does the social side of things look like your sort of thing?
    - what are sports/media/performing arts opportunities like? Does that matter to you?

    Have you visited both? Can you visit again over the easter break? Usually if you contact universities they'll be able to help. You could even try to arrange to stay over in halls and ask to be put in touch with a current student who could show you around and give you some insight into what's good or bad about the course.
    Thank you for the website links, they give a lot of information that's far more transparent than any of the uni websites!
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    (Original post by izzysavoy)
    When you say that you've been to them both, do you mean to study or to visit? My problem is that I know both London and Manchester very well, and am a little in love with both cities, though for different reasons. Both universities also offer a wide array of opportunities but in different ways. Machester is obviously the better uni for physics, however, I am also aware that at undergraduate level the courses will all be very similar irrelevant of the departments individual reputation. Then UCL offers a lot of opportunities on a more international scale, having a more internationally recognised name, and of course is in the very center of one of the most important cities in the world. On the other hand, ultimately I want a university that is going to challenge and encourage me intellectually as much as possible. In short I love them both and am very confused ....
    I've been to them both I.e university open days/applicant holder days. Exactly, at undergraduate levels everything is taught more or less the same just the standard/quality of teaching might be a tiny bit better at some places than others.

    I would go to UCL because of the more opportunities you could possibly have being in London. It will keep you on your toes academically as well as provide a great foundation where ever you decide to go after your degree.

    I'm also applying to study Physics aswell, though I might swap to Theoretical Physics since I can't stand labs.
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    This is partly from personal preference, but I think you should look at stuff like cost of living as something to be sorted once you get there rather than an obstacle. Depending on your background, you should be covered by a loan or by your parents (who should hopefully realise they are expected to contribute).
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    This is partly from personal preference, but I think you should look at stuff like cost of living as something to be sorted once you get there rather than an obstacle. Depending on your background, you should be covered by a loan or by your parents (who should hopefully realise they are expected to contribute).
    I completely agree. Cost of living, while something that has to be taken into account, I believe should not be the foundation on which you make your decision for university.
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    Besides being higher by two grades in entry requirements, you'll get a far better undergraduate experience at Manchester in terms of the course, simply has a much superior Physics department and course structure.
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    Manchester is by far better for Physics although you seem to be leaning towards UCL. Don't go to UCL just for the 'prestige' or 'reputation' as you'll end up regretting it. Anyone studying Physics at Manchester is pretty much a genius in my eyes.
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    So many people do blanket statements "Place X has a better department"
    Really?
    Why?
    What makes it better?
    According to whom?

    or "Better structured course..."

    In what way?
    According to whom?

    I just don't get it.

    Both are top universities. If money isn't an issue, visit both on open days, check out their courses and go with your gut instinct ^^
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    (Original post by Incongruous)
    So many people do blanket statements "Place X has a better department"
    Really?
    Why?
    What makes it better?
    According to whom?

    or "Better structured course..."

    In what way?
    According to whom?

    I just don't get it.

    Both are top universities. If money isn't an issue, visit both on open days, check out their courses and go with your gut instinct ^^
    Higher entry requirements and ranks higher internationally, as well as just generally being considered a superior uni for Physics.
    Also at undergraduate level they seem to be very different, you only do around 6 modules a year at UCL whereas you do 10 at Manchester bar lab modules. Having a look at what modules they are and their order throughout the years they seem pretty dodgy, there isn't even a module for special relativity in any year at UCL which is something you do first semester at Manchester.
 
 
 
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