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Google AI beats world Go champion in 4 out of 5 games
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Managed to catch the last 40 minutes or so of the game this morning. Very exciting.
Lee Sedol seemed pretty shook up- his hands were shaking as he was preparing to resign.
Lee previously said he was confident of winning, although he did revise this as the match approached.
There's been a lot of speculation about how it would go over the past few months. I didn't think it would be a clear 5-0 win for Lee Sedol but I wasn't expecting AlphaGo to make such a strong start. I hope Lee Sedol doesn't take too much of a hit to his confidence.
Managed to catch the last 40 minutes or so of the game this morning. Very exciting.
Lee Sedol seemed pretty shook up- his hands were shaking as he was preparing to resign.
Lee previously said he was confident of winning, although he did revise this as the match approached.
There's been a lot of speculation about how it would go over the past few months. I didn't think it would be a clear 5-0 win for Lee Sedol but I wasn't expecting AlphaGo to make such a strong start. I hope Lee Sedol doesn't take too much of a hit to his confidence.
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(Original post by Puddles the Monkey)
I hope Lee Sedol doesn't take too much of a hit to his confidence.
I hope Lee Sedol doesn't take too much of a hit to his confidence.
I don't want it to be Deep Blue vs Kasparov all over again
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(Original post by Puddles the Monkey)
It already is!
It already is!
. I wonder why Google decided to publish and put this in the public domain rather than protect its development... 
It's always awkward when Google has more high-impact papers than your supervisor who's been researching at a University for 30 years
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Alpha Go won this morning's match too. Totally nailbiting game! It was a rollercoaster of emotions.
It looks like it might be a straight 5-0 win for Alpha Go.
Alpha Go won this morning's match too. Totally nailbiting game! It was a rollercoaster of emotions. It looks like it might be a straight 5-0 win for Alpha Go.
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There was this comment (paraphrased a bit) which I thought was chilling...
"Korean commentators were shocked. They were trying to work out where Lee made a critical mistake but they were having trouble finding one.
So either the mistake is beyond a human's comprehension, or Lee was fated to lose from the beginning."
"Korean commentators were shocked. They were trying to work out where Lee made a critical mistake but they were having trouble finding one.
So either the mistake is beyond a human's comprehension, or Lee was fated to lose from the beginning."
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Does this mean computers can solve scientific problems now?
Can we get it to work on curing cancer?
Or how about we get it to design an AI. Super computers build (super computers)^2. Future here we come
Can we get it to work on curing cancer?
Or how about we get it to design an AI. Super computers build (super computers)^2. Future here we come
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(Original post by ChaoticButterfly)
Does this mean computers can solve scientific problems now?
Can we get it to work on curing cancer?
Does this mean computers can solve scientific problems now?
Can we get it to work on curing cancer?
I'm sad that Go was just a means to end to them
I hope AlphaGo doesn't go away for ever. 
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(Original post by Puddles the Monkey)
I believe they're going to use the algorithm to solve other problems.
I'm sad that Go was just a means to end to them
I hope AlphaGo doesn't go away for ever.
I believe they're going to use the algorithm to solve other problems.
I'm sad that Go was just a means to end to them
I hope AlphaGo doesn't go away for ever.
Also computers can dream now
They don;t dream about electric sheep though
Rather terrifying goat devil dog things :-/
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Interesting stuff. A step forward for AI .
I'm afraid it goes beyond my head. But it is interesting that they're willing to release it.
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(Original post by Nirgilis)
Heaven's above, have you tried to read the Nature paper describing this type of algorithm?
. I wonder why Google decided to publish and put this in the public domain rather than protect its development... 
It's always awkward when Google has more high-impact papers than your supervisor who's been researching at a University for 30 years
Heaven's above, have you tried to read the Nature paper describing this type of algorithm?
. I wonder why Google decided to publish and put this in the public domain rather than protect its development... It's always awkward when Google has more high-impact papers than your supervisor who's been researching at a University for 30 years
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(Original post by ChaoticButterfly)
Does this mean computers can solve scientific problems now?
Does this mean computers can solve scientific problems now?
(Original post by Puddles the Monkey)
There was this comment (paraphrased a bit) which I thought was chilling...
"Korean commentators were shocked. They were trying to work out where Lee made a critical mistake but they were having trouble finding one.
So either the mistake is beyond a human's comprehension, or Lee was fated to lose from the beginning."
There was this comment (paraphrased a bit) which I thought was chilling...
"Korean commentators were shocked. They were trying to work out where Lee made a critical mistake but they were having trouble finding one.
So either the mistake is beyond a human's comprehension, or Lee was fated to lose from the beginning."
Hell, let's take it a step further and see what happens when AlphaGo plays AlphaGo
(Original post by Kvothe the arcane)
I'm afraid it goes beyond my head. But it is interesting that they're willing to release it.
I'm afraid it goes beyond my head. But it is interesting that they're willing to release it.
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(Original post by Nirgilis)
Considering the game is pretty much instinct, it doesn't surprise me that whatever 'mistake' was made we don't understand... What WOULD be interesting, is getting AlphaGo to re-play the game against itself, and 'suggest' the next best move for Lee given a certain position he was in, and then see how Lee's move compared to the computed best move...
Considering the game is pretty much instinct, it doesn't surprise me that whatever 'mistake' was made we don't understand... What WOULD be interesting, is getting AlphaGo to re-play the game against itself, and 'suggest' the next best move for Lee given a certain position he was in, and then see how Lee's move compared to the computed best move...
Hell, let's take it a step further and see what happens when AlphaGo plays AlphaGo 
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(Original post by Nirgilis)
Interestingly, it's possible that I'll be looking a little into machine learning and it's application into medical research as part of my PhD. So... yes! This type of research is underway
Interestingly, it's possible that I'll be looking a little into machine learning and it's application into medical research as part of my PhD. So... yes! This type of research is underway
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Can;t come soon enough.
We all live like Greek philosophers and upper classes off the back of our robot slaves.
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(Original post by Puddles the Monkey)
AlphaGo has played AlphaGo hundreds of times - that's how it learns
AlphaGo has played AlphaGo hundreds of times - that's how it learns
This is really amazing. The difference in complexity between chess and go is astronomical. And the AI approach is totally different. Neural networks over brute force.
The weird thing is, nobody knows how AlphaGo does it. Neural networks cannot really be probed to understand strategy or things like that. The computer can learn but cannot tell us how it learns.
The scope for using AI to solve problems of science is amazing, and it really feels like we are on the brink. Some have speculated that we won't have professional scientists or diagnosticians in the future, just people who manage the AI computers!
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