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    I've received unconditional offers from Oxford Brookes and Central Saint Martins to study architecture in Sept 2016, but am really torn between them.

    I've visited both and really liked the campuses, courses and feel, but read in a similar post to this from 2011 that CSM course wasn't reputable at all? (Although it's a renowned university for creativity and that's why I'm studying the BA).

    I'm also planning on applying for the Bartlett's masters, so would either improve my chance of being excepted onto that?

    Any advice/help on which to choose would be appreciated!! Thank you.
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    Hi there,

    Sorry I can't help you out with your query but I was wondering - do Oxford brookes definitely give unconditionals, and is it only if you choose it as your firm?

    Also, how formal was the interview, and what did the discussion involve?

    Thanks!
    - Zoe


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    No it wasn't a full unconditional, just if I put it as my firm choice (it's AAB otherwise which is their normal offer) I haven't heard of anyone getting complete unconditional from them, but I could be wrong.

    And I thought the interview was really informal, there was no reference to my personal statement or architects, just a discussion about my portfolio and sketchbooks, why I wanted to study architecture and what courses I am currently taking. They also take question at the end, so its good to have a few prepared
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    Thanks so much! I'm just slightly worried because I don't have any work other than what I have already sent them via email...

    With your dilemma about Brookes or CSM. I don't have much to offer as I haven't visited either, but I was advised against CSM as a non-arts student due to the extremely artistic base. Also, as Brookes is very high in the league tables I would be swayed that way, as well as the fact that CSM will cost significantly more in living costs, just increasing the amount you'll have to pay back.

    It's mainly up to you if you've managed to visit both, whichever one you felt most at home with. Bear in mind the area, accommodation, tutors, and most importantly course structure and content. Brookes emphasises pursuing your 'own interests', which really appealed to me.

    Sorry that I don't know much else on the subject, wish I could help, but I hope you can make a decision you're comfortable with in the end!


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    Thanks for the advice! I'll have to put a list together with pros and cons for each, but you raised a lot of good points about OB - I also liked the fact they gave a lot of freedom to the students and the living costs are lower (although when I was talking to a student before the interview they said you don't get much support for material costs). But I think it's the overall atmosphere and creative vibe of London is what keeps drawing me in.

    And I'm sure you'll have enough work to show them, they just need to get a feel of your style and that you can develop an idea. The majority of work I showed them I sent digitally as well.

    Have you got an interview soon at Oxford Brookes? If so, good luck!
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    Hi
    I'm currently applying to CSM. Do you mind tell me more information about CSM please?
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    Most of what I know about CSM can be found online, I ended up going to Oxford Brookes so I don't really know anything new... I'd just go onto their website and research the course, its a BA so it's going to be more reliant on art skills, especially with it being CSM. I'd book an open day if you can get to London, the one I went to was really useful. I don't remember much from it apart from one guy saying you need to know stuff about current architects, not just famous people like Gaudi (although they never asked me about that at my interview so who knows!).
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    Hey! This is a really old thread but I have the same dilemma as you. I'm going to uni this year and also torn between OB and CSM! I want to know which uni you ended up going to and if so, why? I'm a local to London so I'm not really new to the artsy vibe of CSM that I actually overlook and it and just see CSM to be really cliquey and quite snobbish. I went to OB and omg I was a little bit overwhelmed. They did emphasised how they nurture people's individuality and own thinking which seems really great and it felt like they give sufficient support. It's just that Oxford is a bit dead ( i think ) like idk if there's a lot going around in Oxford such as city life and night life. But course wise, I hope you read this and be able to help me too!
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    (Original post by carl.j0)
    Hey! This is a really old thread but I have the same dilemma as you. I'm going to uni this year and also torn between OB and CSM! I want to know which uni you ended up going to and if so, why? I'm a local to London so I'm not really new to the artsy vibe of CSM that I actually overlook and it and just see CSM to be really cliquey and quite snobbish. I went to OB and omg I was a little bit overwhelmed. They did emphasised how they nurture people's individuality and own thinking which seems really great and it felt like they give sufficient support. It's just that Oxford is a bit dead ( i think ) like idk if there's a lot going around in Oxford such as city life and night life. But course wise, I hope you read this and be able to help me too!
    I am having the same problem with choosing between CSM and OB! I am really unsure as too which one I should choose as I like the artsy side to CSM but OB seems to be a better course according to others the only problem is I haven't been able to visit OB. In terms of the course which one did you prefer?
 
 
 

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