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    (Original post by Bill_Gates)
    They do. Statistics are openly available how many 1sts are given, how many 2:1s and how many people drop out. It's widely available and some smart students pick courses are particular universities on this basis. Nothing worse than a 3rd or 2:2 on your CV better off at a weaker institution with a first.

    So back to my point! is social mobility on the decline because...........
    A desmond's not so bad (2.2) Bill!?
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    (Original post by Lime-man)
    You make one decent point here, as yes it is harder for working class people like myself to make connections, but that's not a excuse, it's not that difficult to talk to people who earn more than you, so that's what you do. If someone spends all their time with wastemans then the likelihood is that they'll too become a wasteman. However, just start from people who earn more than you and go from there, I have the phone numbers of several people who run their own (profitable) businesses. On LinkedIn, I have a huge connection base as well. It's not that difficult to meet people and just because it's harder when you're poorer, it's no excuse.
    Yeah but then it get's into complexities concerning peoples ability to connect socially with others. I personally think peoples ability to socialise depends on a mixture of biology and social raising. There was also one very interesting study that suggested peoples ability to lie helped them climb social ladders, which actually would start at a very early age.

    Overall however, it's easier for me to socialise with people nearer my socio-economic group, I also know many people who run successful businesses or in high up positions etc. It's actually the reason I have an interview lined up at a BMW dealership and they've also offered me some temp work since I've been struggling since I've left uni.

    Even then there is a massive difference me applying for a manager position at asda, teaching job etc via connections, than applying for a job as a lecturer/researcher at a high scoring university or company.

    (Original post by Lime-man)
    Maybe, but there isn't actually anything to suggest that education is being "dumbed down".
    Sorry I wasn't commenting on the dumbing down claim, more the reasoning year on year scores raise. It's long been proven exams aren't realistically in terms of actual content any harder than our parents generation, simply the teaching methods have vastly improved.
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    (Original post by Lime-man)
    Umm, maybe the kids are getting smarter...
    Could be we're swimming in geniuses, yes.
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    (Original post by Hussm)
    Aye, compare a A level maths paper from 06 and before to 2013 onwards.
    Then compare one from 06 to 2000. The 2005-2014 cohorts had some of the easiest exams ever. 2015 was the reversal of the trend.
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    (Original post by john2054)
    A desmond's not so bad (2.2) Bill!?
    Sometimes it can just be bad luck on the day.......... but yeah it's pretty bad but depends what in! 2.2 in Maths is ok.
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    (Original post by Bill_Gates)
    Sometimes it can just be bad luck on the day.......... but yeah it's pretty bad but depends what in! 2.2 in Maths is ok.
    a 2.2 in dance and fine wine appreciation. Preferably before the dance! ;-)
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    (Original post by Bill_Gates)
    Sometimes it can just be bad luck on the day.......... but yeah it's pretty bad but depends what in! 2.2 in Maths is ok.
    But seriously my degree is a major in sociology and a minor in theatre studies, and i already have a place at the education masters for september!

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    (Original post by john2054)
    But seriously my degree is a major in sociology and a minor in theatre studies, and i already have a place at the education masters for september!

    jr
    congrats brah
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    (Original post by Bill_Gates)
    congrats brah
    Thanks. I put the fact of my place on the masters down to the fact that unlike most students, i actually work hard for my assignments and don't just get other graduates to write them for me on sites like upwork or elance!
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    (Original post by Bill_Gates)
    1. Sending more people to university
    2. Easier to achieve entry to university
    3. Easier to gain a first etc.
    The first two aren't "dumbing down" but progressivness, because having more people go to uni is a good thing.The third point might be valid but it's quite high up in the education process for it to affect the entire education system.
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    (Original post by Bill_Gates)
    congrats brah
    Are you the real, Bill 'I'm a billionaire' Gates? or just a lookalike??
 
 
 
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