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    Hey,

    I am looking to purchase a laptop for my education and I will be taking courses that require 3D Model making and rendering as well as working with large data as well as playing games (like GTA 5) it would be great if I am able to stream while playing if thats possible.

    The screen has to be a minimum of 15" - battery life doesn't have to be 10 hours, around 6-8 hours will be fine. I am looking for a future proofed one (DDR 4 ram) and I need SSD + HDD.

    My budget £700-£900 (however a little over will not hurt, or upto £1500 if available on a low interest for finance - around 5%).

    Thanks!
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    (Original post by Xversion101)
    Hey,

    I am looking to purchase a laptop for my education and I will be taking courses that require 3D Model making and rendering as well as working with large data as well as playing games (like GTA 5) it would be great if I am able to stream while playing if thats possible.

    The screen has to be a minimum of 15" - battery life doesn't have to be 10 hours, around 6-8 hours will be fine. I am looking for a future proofed one (DDR 4 ram) and I need SSD + HDD.

    My budget £700-£900 (however a little over will not hurt, or upto £1500 if available on a low interest for finance - around 5%).

    Thanks!
    Your initial budget is a little tight for what you're asking for, the only laptops I've seen running DDR4 RAM at the moment start in the £900-£1000 range with some variant of i7 and 970M GPU, but that's before taking your request for dual hard drives into account. Are you sure the benefits of DDR4 RAM actually that important to the applications you'll be doing that it's a primary requirement for you? It's the big constraint in terms of meeting your original £700-£900 budget from what I can tell and while it may be more future proof than DDR3, I would wager your laptop's other specs will become outdated before having DDR3 RAM becomes a performance bottleneck.

    If you can stretch into the £1000-£1100 range, PCSpecialist's custom laptops seem to be the best candidates for you. This 14" model can be configured with 8GB of DDR4 RAM, 1TB HDD and a 128GB mSATA SSD for £1053, while the 15" version can get the same specs for about £90 more.

    For less than that, you can find 960M/965M equipped laptops with varying generations of i7 and 8GB DDR3 RAM (and your SSD/HHD requirement) for within your original budget. If you wanted to push your budget to that £1500 on finance, there will be options ranging from conventional 980M equipped laptops with your other requirements easily met.
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    (Original post by Xversion101)
    Hey,

    I am looking to purchase a laptop for my education and I will be taking courses that require 3D Model making and rendering as well as working with large data as well as playing games (like GTA 5) it would be great if I am able to stream while playing if thats possible.

    The screen has to be a minimum of 15" - battery life doesn't have to be 10 hours, around 6-8 hours will be fine. I am looking for a future proofed one (DDR 4 ram) and I need SSD + HDD.

    My budget £700-£900 (however a little over will not hurt, or upto £1500 if available on a low interest for finance - around 5%).

    Thanks!
    On a laptop of that power you're going to struggle to get 6-8 hours battery life
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    (Original post by Gofre)
    Your initial budget is a little tight for what you're asking for, the only laptops I've seen running DDR4 RAM at the moment start in the £900-£1000 range with some variant of i7 and 970M GPU, but that's before taking your request for dual hard drives into account. Are you sure the benefits of DDR4 RAM actually that important to the applications you'll be doing that it's a primary requirement for you? It's the big constraint in terms of meeting your original £700-£900 budget from what I can tell and while it may be more future proof than DDR3, I would wager your laptop's other specs will become outdated before having DDR3 RAM becomes a performance bottleneck.

    If you can stretch into the £1000-£1100 range, PCSpecialist's custom laptops seem to be the best candidates for you. This 14" model can be configured with 8GB of DDR4 RAM, 1TB HDD and a 128GB mSATA SSD for £1053, while the 15" version can get the same specs for about £90 more.

    For less than that, you can find 960M/965M equipped laptops with varying generations of i7 and 8GB DDR3 RAM (and your SSD/HHD requirement) for within your original budget. If you wanted to push your budget to that £1500 on finance, there will be options ranging from conventional 980M equipped laptops with your other requirements easily met.
    Thank you, if I was to purchase a DDR3 laptop for now, would I be able to upgrade to DDR4 later or is that no possible? and considering what you have said, I think I should be fine with DDR3 ram then.


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    On a laptop of that power you're going to struggle to get 6-8 hours battery life
    Is there an alternative?
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    (Original post by Xversion101)
    Thank you, if I was to purchase a DDR3 laptop for now, would I be able to upgrade to DDR4 later or is that no possible? and considering what you have said, I think I should be fine with DDR3 ram then.
    No, they run on completely different standards. It really shouldn't be an issue for many years though.


    Is there an alternative?
    Either carry your charger with you or buy spare batteries. Simply put, there's currently no real way of getting long battery life out of a powerful laptop when under load.
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    (Original post by Gofre)
    No, they run on completely different standards. It really shouldn't be an issue for many years though.




    Either carry your charger with you or buy spare batteries. Simply put, there's currently no real way of getting long battery life out of a powerful laptop when under load.
    Thanks alot once again, what laptop would you recommend for my original requirements (except with DDR3 ram) for the £700-£900 budget?
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    (Original post by Xversion101)
    Thank you, if I was to purchase a DDR3 laptop for now, would I be able to upgrade to DDR4 later or is that no possible? and considering what you have said, I think I should be fine with DDR3 ram then.




    Is there an alternative?
    No not really, in general the more powerful the component performance wise the more power it requires. Think minw gets like 2-3 hours when not gaming
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    (Original post by Xversion101)
    Thanks alot once again, what laptop would you recommend for my original requirements (except with DDR3 ram) for the £700-£900 budget?
    I would go for this PCSpecialist laptop as a basis then upgrade it how you want. For your usage I would go for the following upgrades:

    Processor: Core i7-6700HQ
    RAM: 12GB DDR3
    Hard drive #1: Kingston V300 120GB SSD
    Hard Drive #2: 1TB HDD
    Total: £907

    I opted for the Core i7 and 12GB RAM to help in your rendering work then through in your desired configuration of twin hard drives. Another alternative for £907 is reducing the RAM to 8GB and increasing the SSD to 240GB. The 965M GPU

    If you do opt to go for PCSpecialist, make sure you put the SSD in the first available hard drive option so that it definitely gets chosen as the OS's drive, I presume they will choose to install it on the SSD regardless but I would still do that just as a precaution. If it does come on the wrong drive it's obviously not the end of the world as reinstalling Windows on the desired drive is simple enough, but it's always nice to get it properly configured straight out the box :ahee:

    For closer to your £700 minimum, dropping back to the original Core i5 CPU and choosing 8GB RAM and a 120GB SSD/1TB HDD combo gets you under £800, or look around at 960M based laptops if you wanted to go even lower.
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    (Original post by Gofre)
    I would go for this PCSpecialist laptop as a basis then upgrade it how you want. For your usage I would go for the following upgrades:

    Processor: Core i7-6700HQ
    RAM: 12GB DDR3
    Hard drive #1: Kingston V300 120GB SSD
    Hard Drive #2: 1TB HDD
    Total: £907

    I opted for the Core i7 and 12GB RAM to help in your rendering work then through in your desired configuration of twin hard drives. Another alternative for £907 is reducing the RAM to 8GB and increasing the SSD to 240GB. The 965M GPU

    If you do opt to go for PCSpecialist, make sure you put the SSD in the first available hard drive option so that it definitely gets chosen as the OS's drive, I presume they will choose to install it on the SSD regardless but I would still do that just as a precaution. If it does come on the wrong drive it's obviously not the end of the world as reinstalling Windows on the desired drive is simple enough, but it's always nice to get it properly configured straight out the box :ahee:

    For closer to your £700 minimum, dropping back to the original Core i5 CPU and choosing 8GB RAM and a 120GB SSD/1TB HDD combo gets you under £800, or look around at 960M based laptops if you wanted to go even lower.
    Iirc the performance of the 960m and 965m are pretty simar, so it may be worth looking at the 960m laptops as they tend to be cheaper as you say
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    (Original post by samb1234)
    Iirc the performance of the 960m and 965m are pretty simar, so it may be worth looking at the 960m laptops as they tend to be cheaper as you say
    I'd say there's just enough of a bump in performance to justify the bump in cost. If the savings were substantial I would say go for it, but for reference a 960M model from PCSpecialist spec'd out with the same CPU, RAM and drive options as the 965M model (I promise I'm not a shill for PCSpecialist, they just generally have very competitively priced custom laptops even when compared to pre-builts :ahee:) comes out at around £50 cheaper and there's nowhere else really to invest that £50 for a performance gain. They could move to higher capacity or faster drives I guess, but since they plan on using this laptop for a few years from the sound of things, I'd rather squeeze out an extra few frames when playing new games at high/ultra.
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    (Original post by Gofre)
    I'd say there's just enough of a bump in performance to justify the bump in cost. If the savings were substantial I would say go for it, but for reference a 960M model from PCSpecialist spec'd out with the same CPU, RAM and drive options as the 965M model (I promise I'm not a shill for PCSpecialist, they just generally have very competitively priced custom laptops even when compared to pre-builts :ahee:) comes out at around £50 cheaper and there's nowhere else really to invest that £50 for a performance gain. They could move to higher capacity or faster drives I guess, but since they plan on using this laptop for a few years from the sound of things, I'd rather squeeze out an extra few frames when playing new games at high/ultra.
    For £750 you can get a pre built dell with 8gb ram, i7-6700hq 960m 4gb and a 1tb sshd (admittedly no ssd, but might be able to add one), or for 800 you can get the same but with 16gb ram. I guess it really depends on what they want the laptop for, but tbh if they plan on playing AAA games at high or ultra then they're probably going to want a 970m at the very least as even on current new releases like the division people with 965ms are getting roughly 40fps on medium
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    (Original post by samb1234)
    For £750 you can get a pre built dell with 8gb ram, i7-6700hq 960m 4gb and a 1tb sshd (admittedly no ssd, but might be able to add one), or for 800 you can get the same but with 16gb ram. I guess it really depends on what they want the laptop for, but tbh if they plan on playing AAA games at high or ultra then they're probably going to want a 970m at the very least as even on current new releases like the division people with 965ms are getting roughly 40fps on medium
    What is the model number for the DELL?

    (Original post by Gofre)
    I would go for this PCSpecialist laptop as a basis then upgrade it how you want. For your usage I would go for the following upgrades:

    Processor: Core i7-6700HQ
    RAM: 12GB DDR3
    Hard drive #1: Kingston V300 120GB SSD
    Hard Drive #2: 1TB HDD
    Total: £907

    I opted for the Core i7 and 12GB RAM to help in your rendering work then through in your desired configuration of twin hard drives. Another alternative for £907 is reducing the RAM to 8GB and increasing the SSD to 240GB. The 965M GPU

    If you do opt to go for PCSpecialist, make sure you put the SSD in the first available hard drive option so that it definitely gets chosen as the OS's drive, I presume they will choose to install it on the SSD regardless but I would still do that just as a precaution. If it does come on the wrong drive it's obviously not the end of the world as reinstalling Windows on the desired drive is simple enough, but it's always nice to get it properly configured straight out the box :ahee:

    For closer to your £700 minimum, dropping back to the original Core i5 CPU and choosing 8GB RAM and a 120GB SSD/1TB HDD combo gets you under £800, or look around at 960M based laptops if you wanted to go even lower.
    Thanks, having a close look at this!
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    (Original post by Xversion101)
    What is the model number for the DELL?



    Thanks, having a close look at this!
    http://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/7559-...0_1856981.html .I haven't read any detailed reviews but for the price it is good on paper
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    (Original post by samb1234)
    http://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/7559-...0_1856981.html .I haven't read any detailed reviews but for the price it is good on paper
    Thanks, I'll keep this in mind
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    (Original post by samb1234)
    http://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/7559-...0_1856981.html .I haven't read any detailed reviews but for the price it is good on paper
    Ah I'd seen Dell had were releasing some more affordable gaming laptops on LinusTechTips, hadn't realised any had made it to the UK now though! Yeah that's definitely not a bad shout if the OP can live with a hybrid drive, as a general rule prebuilt laptops that only come with one drive don't have space for an additional one.
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    (Original post by Gofre)
    Ah I'd seen Dell had were releasing some more affordable gaming laptops on LinusTechTips, hadn't realised any had made it to the UK now though! Yeah that's definitely not a bad shout if the OP can live with a hybrid drive, as a general rule prebuilt laptops that only come with one drive don't have space for an additional one.
    For once it seems you may be able to http://www.windowscentral.com/how-ad...spiron-15-7559 , by the looks of it they've left it fairly easy to add to. As with any laptop there are compromises with the dell (weight, sshd is a fairly slow one apparently) but unless you're building a desktop that's no different from most other options
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    Alright, I'll check them out too, thanks again guys!
 
 
 
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