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    (Original post by queen-bee)
    Could you care to elaborate on your final paragraph please?
    Do I have to?


    jk

    In short: Cultural appropriation is when somebody adopts aspects of a culture that’s not their own.But that’s only the most basic definition.

    A deeper understanding of cultural appropriation also refers to a particular power dynamic in which members of a dominant culture take elements from a culture of people who have been systematically oppressed by that dominant group.

    Oftentimes, our most common reference to something atrocious totally misrepresents the truth, making us think it’s all in good fun.

    For instance, if you think about the real story of Pocahontas, having your daughter pretend to be her on Halloween is pretty disturbing. The real Pocahontas, whose given name was Matoaka, was abducted as a teenager, forced to marry an Englishman, and used as propaganda for racist practices before she died at the age of 21.

    And it almost feels like that propaganda never ended, as our popular lessons on what happened between colonizing settlers and Indigenous people depict Native people as savages, or as happy, mystical characters, or as entirely absent.We don’t hear the real stories, and most of us don’t live with a direct connection to their suffering.Does the truth matter, when it comes to a little girl just trying to enjoy a holiday?

    You might think it does if she wanted to dress up as someone whose tragic truth is more familiar, like Anne Frank.They’re both girls with harrowing stories. But more of us believe that trivializing Anne Frank’s life is in very poor taste.

    Can you imagine the outcry if Disney tried to romanticize her diary by aging her into a young woman with a love affair with a Nazi officer and a happy ending?
    Now imagine if that Disney movie was mainstream culture’s primary reference for the Holocaust. And if it was marketed to Germans, who were told that the historical figures who oppressed the Jewish people were their country’s heroes.

    Creepy, right?

    http://everydayfeminism.com/2015/06/...riation-wrong/
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    (Original post by DMcGovern)
    Do I have to?


    jk

    In short: Cultural appropriation is when somebody adopts aspects of a culture that’s not their own.But that’s only the most basic definition.

    A deeper understanding of cultural appropriation also refers to a particular power dynamic in which members of a dominant culture take elements from a culture of people who have been systematically oppressed by that dominant group.

    Oftentimes, our most common reference to something atrocious totally misrepresents the truth, making us think it’s all in good fun.

    For instance, if you think about the real story of Pocahontas, having your daughter pretend to be her on Halloween is pretty disturbing. The real Pocahontas, whose given name was Matoaka, was abducted as a teenager, forced to marry an Englishman, and used as propaganda for racist practices before she died at the age of 21.

    And it almost feels like that propaganda never ended, as our popular lessons on what happened between colonizing settlers and Indigenous people depict Native people as savages, or as happy, mystical characters, or as entirely absent.We don’t hear the real stories, and most of us don’t live with a direct connection to their suffering.Does the truth matter, when it comes to a little girl just trying to enjoy a holiday?

    You might think it does if she wanted to dress up as someone whose tragic truth is more familiar, like Anne Frank.They’re both girls with harrowing stories. But more of us believe that trivializing Anne Frank’s life is in very poor taste.

    Can you imagine the outcry if Disney tried to romanticize her diary by aging her into a young woman with a love affair with a Nazi officer and a happy ending?
    Now imagine if that Disney movie was mainstream culture’s primary reference for the Holocaust. And if it was marketed to Germans, who were told that the historical figures who oppressed the Jewish people were their country’s heroes.

    Creepy, right?

    http://everydayfeminism.com/2015/06/...riation-wrong/
    Wow! Just makes you think that this cultural appropriation does more harm than good!

    Actually a question most people have posed is can the majority culture also be appropriated by the minority?

    Y'all take notes
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    If dressing up in another culture's clothing is offensive, how do we know people dressed as KKK members are not anti-racists mocking the Ku Klux Klan?
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    (Original post by DMcGovern)
    Do I have to?


    jk

    In short: Cultural appropriation is when somebody adopts aspects of a culture that’s not their own.But that’s only the most basic definition.

    A deeper understanding of cultural appropriation also refers to a particular power dynamic in which members of a dominant culture take elements from a culture of people who have been systematically oppressed by that dominant group.

    Oftentimes, our most common reference to something atrocious totally misrepresents the truth, making us think it’s all in good fun.

    For instance, if you think about the real story of Pocahontas, having your daughter pretend to be her on Halloween is pretty disturbing. The real Pocahontas, whose given name was Matoaka, was abducted as a teenager, forced to marry an Englishman, and used as propaganda for racist practices before she died at the age of 21.

    And it almost feels like that propaganda never ended, as our popular lessons on what happened between colonizing settlers and Indigenous people depict Native people as savages, or as happy, mystical characters, or as entirely absent.We don’t hear the real stories, and most of us don’t live with a direct connection to their suffering.Does the truth matter, when it comes to a little girl just trying to enjoy a holiday?

    You might think it does if she wanted to dress up as someone whose tragic truth is more familiar, like Anne Frank.They’re both girls with harrowing stories. But more of us believe that trivializing Anne Frank’s life is in very poor taste.

    Can you imagine the outcry if Disney tried to romanticize her diary by aging her into a young woman with a love affair with a Nazi officer and a happy ending?
    Now imagine if that Disney movie was mainstream culture’s primary reference for the Holocaust. And if it was marketed to Germans, who were told that the historical figures who oppressed the Jewish people were their country’s heroes.

    Creepy, right?

    http://everydayfeminism.com/2015/06/...riation-wrong/
    LOOOOOOL THE SOURCE, everydayfeminism :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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    (Original post by babawunga)
    LOOOOOOL THE SOURCE, everydayfeminism :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
    Care to provide us with a better source,seeing as you're all about facts and sources ?
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    (Original post by queen-bee)
    Care to provide us with a better source,seeing as you're all about facts and sources ?
    I can't provide a source for something that doesn't exist.
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    (Original post by babawunga)
    I can't provide a source for something that doesn't exist.
    So,because you've never experienced it,does that mean it doesn't exist? You sound like those people who complain racism doesn't exist because they've never experienced it
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    (Original post by queen-bee)
    Care to provide us with a better source,seeing as you're all about facts and sources ?
    Buuuurn

    (Original post by queen-bee)
    Wow! Just makes you think that this cultural appropriation does more harm than good!

    Actually a question most people have posed is can the majority culture also be appropriated by the minority?

    Y'all take notes
    I wouldn't say so. At least not in the vast majority of situations.

    It's not the same as assimilation, when marginalized people adopt elements of the dominant culture in order to survive conditions that make life more of a struggle if they don’t.
    Some say, for instance, that non-Western people who wear jeans and Indigenous people who speak English are taking from dominant cultures, too.
    But marginalized groups don’t have the power to decide if they’d prefer to stick with their customs or try on the dominant culture’s traditions just for fun.

    When the last living survivors of massacred Indigenous tribes are fighting to save their language before it dies when they do, and Native students are suspended for speaking in their own Indigenous languages, mirroring the abusive US boarding schools that tried to wipe out Native American cultures up until the 1980s, it’s clear that not every person who speaks English does so by choice.

    Basically, context matters.
    Which means it’s not about saying that you, as an individual, are a bad person if you appropriate someone else’s culture.
    It’s a complicated issue that includes our histories, our current state of affairs, and our future, as we act to eliminate oppression, instead of perpetuating it.

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    (Original post by queen-bee)
    So,because you've never experienced it,does that mean it doesn't exist? You sound like those people who complain racism doesn't exist because they've never experienced it
    Why did you bring racism into this? Why did you assume what I've experienced or not?

    Can you tell me how you've experienced 'cultural appropriation'?
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    (Original post by DMcGovern)
    Buuuurn



    I wouldn't say so. At least not in the vast majority of situations.

    It's not the same as assimilation, when marginalized people adopt elements of the dominant culture in order to survive conditions that make life more of a struggle if they don’t.
    Some say, for instance, that non-Western people who wear jeans and Indigenous people who speak English are taking from dominant cultures, too.
    But marginalized groups don’t have the power to decide if they’d prefer to stick with their customs or try on the dominant culture’s traditions just for fun.

    When the last living survivors of massacred Indigenous tribes are fighting to save their language before it dies when they do, and Native students are suspended for speaking in their own Indigenous languages, mirroring the abusive US boarding schools that tried to wipe out Native American cultures up until the 1980s, it’s clear that not every person who speaks English does so by choice.

    Basically, context matters.
    Which means it’s not about saying that you, as an individual, are a bad person if you appropriate someone else’s culture.
    It’s a complicated issue that includes our histories, our current state of affairs, and our future, as we act to eliminate oppression, instead of perpetuating it.

    Thank you for your informed opinion on the matter
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    (Original post by babawunga)
    Why did you bring racism into this? Why did you assume what I've experienced or not?

    Can you tell me how you've experienced 'cultural appropriation'?
    I was using that as an example. So I'm asking you why you think it doesn't exist?

    Not on an individual basis I haven't but I've stories of people/celebrities trying to appropriate middle eastern/Italian culture. I don't rule it out completely because I've never experienced it or don't agree with it. I'm open to learning about it
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    (Original post by queen-bee)
    I was using that as an example. So I'm asking you why you think it doesn't exist?

    Not on an individual basis I haven't but I've stories of people/celebrities trying to appropriate middle eastern/Italian culture. I don't rule it out completely because I've never experienced it or don't agree with it. I'm open to learning about it
    Can you explain what it means to appropriate a culture and how it is offensive?

    Also, yesterday you said Italians are white so they couldn't be appropriated. Hmm.
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    (Original post by babawunga)
    Can you explain what it means to appropriate a culture and how it is offensive?

    Also, yesterday you said Italians are white so they couldn't be appropriated. Hmm.
    The above user has just given us an informed insight as to what cultural appropriation is and why it's harmful.

    Yes,that's correct and because most of the time the definition of cultural appropriation refers to minority cultures being exploited,it really depends on the context of the situation,that's not to say majority cultures can't also be exploited
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    (Original post by queen-bee)
    The above user has just given us an informed insight as to what cultural appropriation is and why it's harmful.

    Yes,that's correct and because most of the time the definition of cultural appropriation refers to minority cultures being exploited,it really depends on the context of the situation,that's not to say majority cultures can't also be exploited
    I am not reading something from a feminist source.

    Not all white people have the same culture. How racist of you to suggest so. Italian are a minority in the US.
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    (Original post by babawunga)
    I am not reading something from a feminist source.

    Not all white people have the same culture. How racist of you to suggest so. Italian are a minority in the US.
    Okay habibi,that's your choice

    Nobody said they have they same culture,they are the majority group in Europe? Please don't lecture me on Italians,my father was one himself. Thank you
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    (Original post by queen-bee)
    Thank you for your informed opinion on the matter
    Nooo problem

    (Original post by babawunga)
    I am not reading something from a feminist source.
    Not all white people have the same culture. How racist of you to suggest so. Italian are a minority in the US.
    Oh, so you're not going to read an educative piece of information on the basis that it was published and written by someone with egalitarian views?
    Despite this, nothing in the article refers to feminism.

    Top marks for bigotry.
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    (Original post by Trojan Horse)
    No thanks
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    (Original post by Mathemagicien)
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-cultures.html

    Cambridge University students have cancelled an Around The World In 80 Days-themed event over fears the costumes they choose to wear may be offensive.

    Pembroke College's Junior Parlour Committee (JPC) feared that the theme could lead to 'cultural appropriation', with people wearing clothes from an ethnic group they don't belong to.

    (Yes, yes, its a Daily Mail link :rolleyes: )
    The utopian view of polticial correctness is going to do the west in one day.
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    (Original post by queen-bee)
    On a census* sorry using my phone

    Calling your little friends for backup,is that why you're acting like a keyboard warrior instead of contributing
    Oooooh babawunga she's burned you so hard you may never get out of the ICU

    But seriously, stop being an SJW.
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    (Original post by babawunga)
    I'm not calling them for backup, I'm calling them to laugh at your utter cringeworthy stupidity.
    You refused to read an educative piece of information on the basis that it was published and written by someone with views different to yourself.
 
 
 
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