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    (Original post by Howard)
    Yes. Industrial Construction.
    Ahh right, not too shabby, I've a good few cousins and uncles in construction myself.
    However, I don't think the majority of Canadians are self-employed builders working more than the legal limit. Canadians worked an average of 36.6 hours per week in 2012.
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    (Original post by Howard)
    No it isn't.
    70 hours a week is too much,why can't you just cut down
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    (Original post by DMcGovern)
    Ahh right, not too shabby, I've a good few cousins and uncles in construction myself.
    However, I don't think the majority of Canadians are self-employed builders working more than the legal limit. Canadians worked an average of 36.6 hours per week in 2012.
    Well, the average is probably pulled down by the First Nations who do practically nothing and the lazy socialist Frenchmen in Quebec who struggle to do more than 36 hours a month.
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    (Original post by queen-bee)
    70 hours a week is too much,why can't you just cut down
    Because that's what my job currently demands. If you work oil, gas, or mining projects you work VERY HARD! There are no paid vacations, no paid "sick days", no pensions, no benefits. Work or starve.
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    (Original post by Howard)
    Because that's what my job currently demands. If you work oil, gas, or mining projects you work VERY HARD! There are no paid vacations, no paid "sick days", no pensions, no benefits. Work or starve.
    That's so harsh
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    (Original post by queen-bee)
    That's so harsh
    I wouldn't recommend it as a lifestyle choice. While I earn a huge amount of money (I laugh at what doctors and lawyers earn) I sure pay for it in terms of quality of life.

    Of course it's not all bad. The upside of it is that I'll be slowing down at the end of this year - I'll be back in Florida, the mortgage and cars will be paid off, and I'll be dropping down to 6 months work a year.
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    (Original post by Howard)
    I wouldn't recommend it as a lifestyle choice. While I earn a huge amount of money (I laugh at what doctors and lawyers earn) I sure pay for it in terms of quality of life.

    Of course it's not all bad. The upside of it is that I'll be slowing down at the end of this year - I'll be back in Florida, the mortgage and cars will be paid off, and I'll be dropping down to 6 months work a year.
    I'll be starting med school this year so I doubt I'll even end up doing the same thing you do. Kinda dreading it but I just want to get it over with tbh.
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    (Original post by queen-bee)
    I'll be starting med school this year so I doubt I'll even end up doing the same thing you do. Kinda dreading it but I just want to get it over with tbh.
    If I had my time again I'd have worked harder at school and tried for medicine or veterinary. As it was I ended up a Quantity Surveyor. Never mind. Maybe next life!
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    (Original post by Howard)
    If I had my time again I'd have worked harder at school and tried for medicine or veterinary. As it was I ended up a Quantity Surveyor. Never mind. Maybe next life!
    Amen to that
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    (Original post by Howard)
    Well, here's a thing. I just got an email from my accountant saying I owe yet ANOTHER $15k in taxes for 2015 on top of the eye-watering sum I've already paid. As much of this money is going to pay for Trudeau's refugees from God knows where and to support Canada's "First Nations" I feel I have a tight to appropriate their culture.

    Therefore if I want to dress up as a red injun I damn well will. If in the meantime they want to appropriate my culture (which broadly speaking means thanklessly working 70 hour weeks year after year and handing over most of my money to the government) they're welcome to it. I'll swap places with them. I'll sit around drinking all day and they can do this ****.
    Its hazardous how Canadian politicians feel the need to import hundreds of thousands of migrants every year, and turn a blind eye to the implications this will have for the natives. In 20 years time, Canada will be Toronto and Edmonton as far as Nova Scotia.
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    Its hazardous how Canadian politicians feel the need to import hundreds of thousands of migrants every year, and turn a blind eye to the implications this will have for the natives. In 20 years time, Canada will be Toronto and Edmonton as far as Nova Scotia.
    Half of Alberta is starving to death but Trudy want's to bring in more refugees. Amazing.

    Canada is really going to hell in a hand basket tbh. Toronto should change its name to Toilette as far as I'm concerned. It's hell on earth.
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    (Original post by queen-bee)
    Exactly, Kim K shouldn't be appropriating our culture
    Anyone can dress up in fancy dress, end of. I have an issue with women self-objectifying to the extent that she does, but that’s another matter

    What do you mean by that? :innocent:
    Gee I dunno sugar :cute:

    Yes and that is unacceptable
    I agree it’s unacceptable to copy other cultures without making any effort to learn about/understand them, or giving credit where it’s due, but there are sensible limits e.g. people who do so in an artistic sense may legitimately be rewarded vs. those who do so in an exploitative/superficial/distasteful sense

    I guess it their uni and their money so they can do whatever they like with it
    When it comes to the Student’s Union to some extent I agree, where there is a membership and Democratic accountability. When it comes to HE institutions more broadly I completely disagree, it is the tax payer’s/tuition fee payer’s money and they are public servants

    (Original post by DMcGovern)
    Cultural appropriation also refers to a particular power dynamic in which members of a dominant culture take elements from a culture of people who have been systematically oppressed by that dominant group
    (Original post by queen-bee)
    Actually a question most people have posed is can the majority culture also be appropriated by the minority? Y'all take notes
    So on the one hand, 'progressives' lecture us on dropping the notion of 'us and them', and encourage uniculturalism (the adoption of foreign cultural aspects into a transitioning common culture of the host people in order for a multicultural system of distinct/somewhat separate social actors to become more of a melting pot society, with a new, inclusive, hybridised culture at the heart of it), and on the other we're supposed to totally reject all cultural facets originating from minority groups in our society, rather than even think about emulating or adopting them ourselves? This is but one example of why it's hard to take lefties/'progressives'/SJWs seriously, and even if we did, we couldn't put a foot right as it's next to impossible to make head or tail of such confused and self-defeating prescriptions

    We don’t hear the real stories
    So demand the truth, don't go off on one about some feckless kid dressing up and having fun :rolleyes:

    most of us don’t live with a direct connection to their suffering
    So create a museum of morbidity :dontknow:
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    (Original post by Howard)
    Half of Alberta is starving to death but Trudy want's to bring in more refugees. Amazing.

    Canada is really going to hell in a hand basket tbh. Toronto should change its name to Toilette as far as I'm concerned. It's hell on earth.
    I guess the Canadian people passively encourage the insane immigration status quo by having no form of organised political (or social) resistance. It seems people are happy voting for Trudeau. Canada really is more of a basket case than Sweden and Germany where there is at least some opposition, even if it isn''t much.

    I like the name change. Now, time to figure out new names for Calgary and Vancouver.
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    (Original post by Foo.mp3)
    So on the one hand, 'progressives' lecture us on dropping the notion of 'us and them', and encourage uniculturalism (the adoption of foreign cultural aspects into a transitioning common culture of the host people in order for a multicultural system of distinct/somewhat separate social actors to become more of a melting pot society, with a new, inclusive, hybridised culture at the heart of it), and on the other we're supposed to totally reject all cultural facets originating from minority groups in our society, rather than even think about emulating or adopting them ourselves? This is but one example of why it's hard to take lefties/'progressives'/SJWs seriously, and even if we did, we couldn't put a foot right as it's next to impossible to make head or tail of such confused and self-defeating prescriptions
    No, being a leftist and TSR Political Representative I would not encourage uniculturalism, and I doubt many do. I encourage multiculturalism and egalitarianism.
    You can check my signature:

    Down with the liars who are talking of freedom and equality for all, while there is an oppressed sex, while there are oppressor classes, while there is private ownership of capital, of shares, while there are the well-fed with their surplus of bread who keep the hungry in bondage.
    Not freedom for all, not equality for all, but
    a fight against the oppressors and exploiters, the abolition of every possibility of oppression and exploitation - THAT IS OUR SLOGAN!

    I myself don't agree that this is law, it is not clearly enough defined.
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    (Original post by Howard)
    If I had my time again I'd have worked harder at school and tried for medicine or veterinary. As it was I ended up a Quantity Surveyor. Never mind. Maybe next life!
    I genuinely feel sorry for you.
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    (Original post by Howard)
    I know all their songs. Down to Margate; The Sideboard Song, Love Song, Give me a London Girl.......
    Well as a Canadian that might be interpreted as the wicked appropriation of Cockney culture..

    If this whole thread wasn't premised on a load of old cobblers of course!
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    (Original post by queen-bee)
    I am aware of the cultural practices which are almost identical to those of my own.
    Were they? Do you marry your siblings then?
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    (Original post by queen-bee)
    Think of me as a foreigner culturally appropriating British culture?
    OK. Now tell me why it is OK for you to do that, but not OK for the British to appropriate your culture (which is your argument)?
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    (Original post by DMcGovern)
    when marginalized people adopt elements of the dominant culture in order to survive conditions that make life more of a struggle if they don’t.
    :toofunny:

    Just how marginalised do you think Queen-bee is? She is the daughter of rich cosmopolitans, in medical school, able to jet around the Mediterranean and the western world generally while living and being educated in the UK, without a financial care in the world?

    Yet by the Newspeak rules of behaviour she, as a minority member, can appropriate others' cultures to her heart's delight while spuriously claiming to be simultaneously ancient Egyptian-Macedonian-Greek (becasue theri incestuous culture is identical to hers, she has told us), Italian, Levantine, Arab (purely on the grounds of speaking the language), Christian, Moslem (as she knows a lot of Moslems and is vocal about Islamophobia), British and very knowledgeable, if not an expert, about Californian culture (because of her weekend trip to New York).

    Someone is pulling someone else's plonker. And I think it is both of you.
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    (Original post by queen-bee)
    70 hours a week is too much,why can't you just cut down
    Are you serious? You are about to start at medical school. My son's girlfriend is a qualified doctor still in the second year of her postgraduate period and she is working (and still studying) for about 100 hours per week on a silly shift pattern. This is likely to carry on for at least the next eight years.
 
 
 
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