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    Kids having kids. o.o
    Talk to her - not tsr lol.
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    (Original post by joecphillips)
    Your personal beliefs are coming in here you are pro-life and that is a belief.
    i am talking about MORALITY man!
    i am not selfish to kill someone because i can't take responsibility
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    (Original post by joecphillips)
    They both made a mistake and they are both paying for it.

    He sees this as the best option what is wrong with him wanting her to agree with him?
    yep, they both made a mistake but the guy is saying to abort whereas the girl is being emotional and saying for an adoption
    so... girl is taking the right decision
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    (Original post by fatima1998)
    yep, they both made a mistake but the guy is saying to abort whereas the girl is being emotional and saying for an adoption
    so... girl is taking the right decision
    Morally it may be wrong but your morals don't matter it is all your personal beliefs.

    How do you know what is the right decision? Your personal belief.

    If he thinks it is best to try to convince her to get an abortion it is his right and he has more details about the situation.
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    He has a right to demand an abortion or to leave. The girl was mistaken too. Stop hounding the poor guy!
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    (Original post by Han-)
    I am confused to why you would need money for this, if you are a UK citizen, abortion can be free on the NHS - you just need to go to your GP who can refer you to a specialist. In situations like this, the healthcare system is very supportive.

    As for making her an abortion, you cannot. However you can comfort her and reassure her - be there for her. Talk through it with her, and explain how you're feeling - and how much you would struggle with a child, and you don't want to bring another baby into the world that you cannot support.

    Adoption is a good idea in theory, in reality young mothers can become very attached to their baby and so this can cause more pain.
    Umm no I'm a US citizen. We live in Vegas. And Nevada is actually somewhat conservative I guess. There's no free abortions here. Which is a big problem. I don't want to tell my cousin because they wouldn't be of any help and see a reason why I shouldn't be here. I can get money it's just I've been having legal trouble as of lately I didn't want to do it again.
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    (Original post by fatima1998)
    then they should rather adopt than abort so infertile mothers can adopt those cutee little kids
    *infertile parents
    *Parents who do not want their own children but would rather raise a child in need
    *A man/woman who cannot find love so turns to adoption for another form of love.
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    (Original post by Kiytt)
    So, what's your excuse for not using contraception?

    It'll be up to her to decide. You can try to convince her, but you certainly can't make her.
    If a women decides to have the baby that is HER choice not his he doesent need to provide anything
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    (Original post by debs20153)
    If a women decides to have the baby that is HER choice not his he doesent need to provide anything
    He legally has to pay child support, if it's proven his.

    You can't expect to make such a consequential error and expect to walk away scot-free.
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    (Original post by joecphillips)
    Morally it may be wrong but your morals don't matter it is all your personal beliefs.

    How do you know what is the right decision? Your personal belief.

    If he thinks it is best to try to convince her to get an abortion it is his right and he has more details about the situation.
    fam, it is wrong - in some countries, it consider as a crime
    i take my decisions morally ( nothing to do with my personal belief)
    what about the girls right! if she want to continue and later she can adopt
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    (Original post by Kiytt)
    He legally has to pay child support, if it's proven his.

    You can't expect to make such a consequential error and expect to walk away scot-free.
    If a women wants to get an abortion the man has no choice because its apparently her body and she can do whatever she wants with it so i believe it should be the man choice on whether he has to use his money on a child he does not want. I'm all for gender equality and this is it.
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    (Original post by fatima1998)
    fam, it is wrong - in some countries, it consider as a crime
    i take my decisions morally ( nothing to do with my personal belief)
    what about the girls right! if she want to continue and later she can adopt
    Are you the girl?

    It's hard very hard but the negatives outway the postives of his situation. He's 17 she's young too, no stable family life, nothing to offer this innocent child. Adoption results in turmoil for some children, best to abort out of mercy.

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    (Original post by Tinemither)
    *infertile parents
    *Parents who do not want their own children but would rather raise a child in need
    *A man/woman who cannot find love so turns to adoption for another form of love.
    society literally curse those parents who are infertile- i have seen that happening and it's rubbish so that why those parents are being manipulated to have their own children because they know that society is going to say that this child isn't their own blood and all that jazz which i hate truly!

    if you are giving the definition of the infertile then it is wrong- it means that you cannot reproduce
    but anyways, if they adopt than other parents can raise them rather than literally abort a creature
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    (Original post by flyingpanda)
    Your GP is a (General) Medical Practitioner, i.e they will be knowledgeable about abortions and stuff.

    In regards to the 'trying to get the mother to abort', at the end of the day, it is her decision and you can't force her to abort. You can present to her a good argument on why you think it is the best idea, but there is no special trick that would make it click in place for her.
    I just don't want her to continue down this road and then regret it because it seems like that's what she's headed for because she can't deal with this logically.
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    (Original post by SMEGGGY)
    Are you the girl?

    It's hard very hard but the negatives outway the postives of his situation. He's 17 she's young too, no stable family life, nothing to offer this innocent child. Adoption results in turmoil for some children, best to abort out of mercy.

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    yes i am a female!
    they should have think about that before having sex but they didn't so its their fault...
    they don't have to offer anything- all the need to do is to give birth and adopt straight away
    abortion is an emotional thing- they may regret for their whole life- even depression
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    (Original post by fatima1998)
    society literally curse those parents who are infertile- i have seen that happening and it's rubbish so that why those parents are being manipulated to have their own children because they know that society is going to say that this child isn't their own blood and all that jazz which i hate truly!

    if you are giving the definition of the infertile then it is wrong- it means that you cannot reproduce
    but anyways, if they adopt than other parents can raise them rather than literally abort a creature
    Society is wrong. Society is fxcked in so many ways and people don't realise that. Everything is condemned in some way. Gonna move to mars to create an equality based life there. Anyone want to join? But I digress from the issue at hand.

    Infertility is the inability to have children, I know that. I'm merely picking up on your point which claims 'infertile mothers can adopt the kids'. Made it gender neutral, since I plan on adopting myself. Despite the fact I'm unsure whether or not I'm fertile, I'd rather adopt. Besides, if my adopted son/daughter is bullied, they have the right to argue 'At least my daddy chose me... Your parents are stuck with you.'
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    (Original post by fatima1998)
    Yes i am a female!

    They should have think about that before having sex but they didn't so its their fault...
    they don't have to offer anything- all the need to do is to give birth and adopt straight away
    abortion is an emotional thing- they may regret for their whole life- even depression
    Untrue. Some can continue with their life without a thought. Millions of children are given up for adootion, it's not fair on them.

    Stop repeating that they should have used protection, they didn't they know it can't be changed!

    OP make her see sense you'll ruin it's life out of selfishness
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    Don't worry, we'll pay for it.
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    (Original post by jamaal17)
    I just don't want her to continue down this road and then regret it because it seems like that's what she's headed for because she can't deal with this logically.
    What you need to understand is that whatever road she goes down, there'll be a high chance of at least a little regret.

    If she aborts the baby, she could be badly affected. You've said already that she's getting cold feet when it comes to adoption, and that's because she's likely growing attached to thee baby. She will have to live with it for the rest of her life, and if you make her abort it, she will resent you.

    But, if she does decide to abort it, then, it's her choice. She needs to weigh up the issues with each option, and her feelings about each and decide the best course of action for her and the baby.

    I do believe, that you, too, have a say in what happens, but you've said your piece, and she (hopefully) knows your say in it.
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    (Original post by fatima1998)
    fam, it is wrong - in some countries, it consider as a crime
    i take my decisions morally ( nothing to do with my personal belief)
    what about the girls right! if she want to continue and later she can adopt
    morals are personal beliefs

    I haven't said she must abort I have said he has the right to try to talk to her and get her to abort not force her to.
 
 
 
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