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"Extra Time" People
Not sure where to post this but it particulairly got on my nerves today with the English Lit exam.
I don't know about anyone else's school but there are about 75 kids in my year and about 20-25 of them get an extra 25% time in every exam. I can't undertstand how this is fair. They spend hundreds of pounds to get a private doctor to declare them as "dyslexic" when they're blatantely not. Some people are just stupid and they're going to have to live with it the rest of their lives anyway so why delude them?
Now, it doesn't make much difference in something like ICT when you're given far too much time anyway but in English, History etc. it can make a huge difference. I'm sure there are people with genuine learning disorders but the amount of "extra timers" takes the piss.
When I went to a State school I never noticed this but in private schools you have so many rich kids and parents who can afford to pay to take this test (and I've never heard of anyone taking it and not being declared "dyslexic"). One of my best friends has extra time and he's one of the smartest kids in the year, which is an insult to anyone who is truly dyslexic.
Just thought I'd get that off my chest. What's it like in your school?
I don't know about anyone else's school but there are about 75 kids in my year and about 20-25 of them get an extra 25% time in every exam. I can't undertstand how this is fair. They spend hundreds of pounds to get a private doctor to declare them as "dyslexic" when they're blatantely not. Some people are just stupid and they're going to have to live with it the rest of their lives anyway so why delude them?
Now, it doesn't make much difference in something like ICT when you're given far too much time anyway but in English, History etc. it can make a huge difference. I'm sure there are people with genuine learning disorders but the amount of "extra timers" takes the piss.
When I went to a State school I never noticed this but in private schools you have so many rich kids and parents who can afford to pay to take this test (and I've never heard of anyone taking it and not being declared "dyslexic"). One of my best friends has extra time and he's one of the smartest kids in the year, which is an insult to anyone who is truly dyslexic.
Just thought I'd get that off my chest. What's it like in your school?
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Fair enough I guess but that counts for very few people in my school.
Theres about 10 people in 126 in my year who get extra time...one of them gets it as he has a low concentration limit...bit pointless.
But i don't see why anyone should get extra time anyway. If your a journalist, you don't get extra time to writ your article as there's a deadline. If your a surgeon you don't get extra time, or the patient might die. No matter what learning disability you have, like dyslexia is a reading disability, now i really don't see how that affects you in an exam...you only read a bit anyway, and in a sense, they should spend more time learning to write, read better etc...
Extra time just is an unfair advantage, if they have to have it, make it less, 5% of time or something.
But i don't see why anyone should get extra time anyway. If your a journalist, you don't get extra time to writ your article as there's a deadline. If your a surgeon you don't get extra time, or the patient might die. No matter what learning disability you have, like dyslexia is a reading disability, now i really don't see how that affects you in an exam...you only read a bit anyway, and in a sense, they should spend more time learning to write, read better etc...
Extra time just is an unfair advantage, if they have to have it, make it less, 5% of time or something.
Well, about 5% of the people in my English Literature exam today got extra time. Although, with all due respect, they did try and answer every question in the question booklet instead of just 3 of them: 2 books and 1 poem. But hey, if you're able to answer questions on books you haven't read, nice one lolz
People in our school who do get extra time do have genuine disadvantages compared to other people taking them exam. They're put into a different room sometimes so that they're not disturbed by people leaving the room and so forth.
People in our school who do get extra time do have genuine disadvantages compared to other people taking them exam. They're put into a different room sometimes so that they're not disturbed by people leaving the room and so forth.
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Theres about 10 people in 126 in my year who get extra time...one of them gets it as he has a low concentration limit...bit pointless.
But i don't see why anyone should get extra time anyway. If your a journalist, you don't get extra time to writ your article as there's a deadline. If your a surgeon you don't get extra time, or the patient might die. No matter what learning disability you have, like dyslexia is a reading disability, now i really don't see how that affects you in an exam...you only read a bit anyway, and in a sense, they should spend more time learning to write, read better etc...
Extra time just is an unfair advantage, if they have to have it, make it less, 5% of time or something.
But i don't see why anyone should get extra time anyway. If your a journalist, you don't get extra time to writ your article as there's a deadline. If your a surgeon you don't get extra time, or the patient might die. No matter what learning disability you have, like dyslexia is a reading disability, now i really don't see how that affects you in an exam...you only read a bit anyway, and in a sense, they should spend more time learning to write, read better etc...
Extra time just is an unfair advantage, if they have to have it, make it less, 5% of time or something.
'xactly. And don't get me started on people using Laptops...
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Exactly. And don't get me started on people using Laptops...
Lol, there's one in my year..excuse... "i type as fast as normal people write!", what...so what, it's a much bigger advantage laptops IMO.
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Not sure where to post this but it particulairly got on my nerves today with the English Lit exam.
I don't know about anyone else's school but there are about 75 kids in my year and about 20-25 of them get an extra 25% time in every exam. I can't undertstand how this is fair. They spend hundreds of pounds to get a private doctor to declare them as "dyslexic" when they're blatantely not. Some people are just stupid and they're going to have to live with it the rest of their lives anyway so why delude them?
Now, it doesn't make much difference in something like ICT when you're given far too much time anyway but in English, History etc. it can make a huge difference. I'm sure there are people with genuine learning disorders but the amount of "extra timers" takes the piss.
When I went to a State school I never noticed this but in private schools you have so many rich kids and parents who can afford to pay to take this test (and I've never heard of anyone taking it and not being declared "dyslexic"). One of my best friends has extra time and he's one of the smartest kids in the year, which is an insult to anyone who is truly dyslexic.
Just thought I'd get that off my chest. What's it like in your school?
I don't know about anyone else's school but there are about 75 kids in my year and about 20-25 of them get an extra 25% time in every exam. I can't undertstand how this is fair. They spend hundreds of pounds to get a private doctor to declare them as "dyslexic" when they're blatantely not. Some people are just stupid and they're going to have to live with it the rest of their lives anyway so why delude them?
Now, it doesn't make much difference in something like ICT when you're given far too much time anyway but in English, History etc. it can make a huge difference. I'm sure there are people with genuine learning disorders but the amount of "extra timers" takes the piss.
When I went to a State school I never noticed this but in private schools you have so many rich kids and parents who can afford to pay to take this test (and I've never heard of anyone taking it and not being declared "dyslexic"). One of my best friends has extra time and he's one of the smartest kids in the year, which is an insult to anyone who is truly dyslexic.
Just thought I'd get that off my chest. What's it like in your school?
Many people who are dyslexic are extremely bright - not all but very many! Your comment seems to indicate that dyslexic kids are "just stupid and they're going to have to live with it the rest of their lives anyway so why delude them?". Their problem is to do with processing information not just spelling so giving them extra time isn't an advantage for them. I agree that too many people seem to be able to buy a diagnosis of dyslexia these days but for those that really are, it is genuinely difficult!
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Some people are just stupid and they're going to have to live with it the rest of their lives anyway so why delude them?
That's a bit harsh- just because it takes one person longer than another to answer a question in an exam (especially one like a GCSE that doesn't really measure intelligence anyway) doesn't make them stupid.
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but in private schools you have so many rich kids and parents who can afford to pay to take this test (and I've never heard of anyone taking it and not being declared "dyslexic")
I don't know how true this is, so I can't really comment, but private education is itself paying for an advantage, so I don't see how paying for extra time is any worse.
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One of my best friends has extra time and he's one of the smartest kids in the year, which is an insult to anyone who is truly dyslexic
No if you're smart, you can't be dyslexic and vice versa? Just like all learning disabilities, people with dyslexia can actually be very intelligent.
I personally have no problem with people who need extra time getting it, and surely if you think people who get extra time when they shouldn't are stupid, you shouldn't want it?
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I'm sure you qualify for this extra time, if you have not been a resident in England for 5 years....
and English is not your 2nd language
and English is not your 2nd language
No, you don't. When I did my SATs in year 6 I had only been a resident of England for a year and I never got extra time and never got any help eiher. Yet "special needs" children can have questions explained to them and sometimes they will even have people scribing for them
OK, I can understand it if they truely need help, but as someone mentioned before lots of people get these privilages for all the wrong reasons. But to be fair, I am glad I didn't get any special treatment in exams because I can honestly say that I got the grade I did all by myself.But yeah, I wouldn't have minded having an extra 5 minutes to check over my work today
I think this is a good chance for me to get a lot of exam time anger and stress out, so here we go:
I completely agree that this idea of some people being given extra idea is stupid. One person from my school who gets extra time is one of the top 2 or 3 most intelligient people in the year, but he not only gets extra time but also gets to type his answers, along with a couple of other. They are all capable of writing, but as far as I can see just prefer typing answers. I know that I can type a lot faster than I can write, and would certainly prefer to type my answers, especially in a subject like English or History.
Moving on, these people who get extra time are basically improving their marks with an unfair advantage. Wihtout this extra time, and if they were in the same position as everyone else, would not receive such a good grade, giving them an advantage over others in later life. There are going to be times in the future when they aren't able to type things, or have to get something completed in a set time, and along with the extra advantage they are getting over everyone else they are kidding themselves. Everybody has some personal difficulty doing certain things, so why don't they get additional time. If they are going to go down this route, then surely unintelligient people should be given extra time. Their strength may be that they are not dyslexic and can write quickly, so they get the normal amount of time, wheras intelligint people with dyslexia get additional time. To me the whole thing is a joke. There is a certain amount of time set for the exam. Everybody should have to do the exam in the same conditions and see what they are able to do.
Well that's me done. I really cba to read over this so there may be mistakes and parts that don't make sence, but I'm really not bothered. Wow, that feels a hell of a lot better.
I completely agree that this idea of some people being given extra idea is stupid. One person from my school who gets extra time is one of the top 2 or 3 most intelligient people in the year, but he not only gets extra time but also gets to type his answers, along with a couple of other. They are all capable of writing, but as far as I can see just prefer typing answers. I know that I can type a lot faster than I can write, and would certainly prefer to type my answers, especially in a subject like English or History.
Moving on, these people who get extra time are basically improving their marks with an unfair advantage. Wihtout this extra time, and if they were in the same position as everyone else, would not receive such a good grade, giving them an advantage over others in later life. There are going to be times in the future when they aren't able to type things, or have to get something completed in a set time, and along with the extra advantage they are getting over everyone else they are kidding themselves. Everybody has some personal difficulty doing certain things, so why don't they get additional time. If they are going to go down this route, then surely unintelligient people should be given extra time. Their strength may be that they are not dyslexic and can write quickly, so they get the normal amount of time, wheras intelligint people with dyslexia get additional time. To me the whole thing is a joke. There is a certain amount of time set for the exam. Everybody should have to do the exam in the same conditions and see what they are able to do.
Well that's me done. I really cba to read over this so there may be mistakes and parts that don't make sence, but I'm really not bothered. Wow, that feels a hell of a lot better.
That's a bit harsh- just because it takes one person longer than another to answer a question in an exam (especially one like a GCSE that doesn't really measure intelligence anyway) doesn't make them stupid.
I'm not basing their stupidity on exam results, I'm basing it on going to school with them for years. Getting a buy out clause to gain you a few extra marks is unfair on the rest of us. I refuse to believe 30% of my classmates are dyslexic. If they were slow I doubt the school would have given them a place.
I don't know how true this is, so I can't really comment, but private education is itself paying for an advantage, so I don't see how paying for extra time is any worse.
Well I would be interested to hear other people's opinions. I see your point with private eductation but if the council hadn't closed the only state school in the borough that accepts boys there is no way my parents would have chosen private education. I have similar issues with religious schools tbh.
No if you're smart, you can't be dyslexic and vice versa? Just like all learning disabilities, people with dyslexia can actually be very intelligent.
I personally have no problem with people who need extra time getting it, and surely if you think people who get extra time when they shouldn't are stupid, you shouldn't want it?
There is nothing wrong with him though! The school organised to get provite doctors to perform "dyslexic tests" so some kids thought "hey, what the hell it's worth a try - we even miss a morning of lessons!!". So their parents pay a few hundred quid and like magic... the doctors say they're dyslexic! As far as I know, none of the kids who paid the money weren't deemed dyslexic. It's almost like a bribe. They should at least organise proper state examinations. Two of my friends who both passed (or should that be failed?) the test admit there is nothing wrong with them but they're not exactly going to complain about having the chance to correct their grammar and spelling while we hand our papers in. When did I say I wanted it? I just think it's unfair people pay money to get a couple more marks.
I'm not basing their stupidity on exam results, I'm basing it on going to school with them for years. Getting a buy out clause to gain you a few extra marks is unfair on the rest of us. I refuse to believe 30% of my classmates are dyslexic. If they were slow I doubt the school would have given them a place.
I don't know how true this is, so I can't really comment, but private education is itself paying for an advantage, so I don't see how paying for extra time is any worse.
Well I would be interested to hear other people's opinions. I see your point with private eductation but if the council hadn't closed the only state school in the borough that accepts boys there is no way my parents would have chosen private education. I have similar issues with religious schools tbh.
No if you're smart, you can't be dyslexic and vice versa? Just like all learning disabilities, people with dyslexia can actually be very intelligent.
I personally have no problem with people who need extra time getting it, and surely if you think people who get extra time when they shouldn't are stupid, you shouldn't want it?
There is nothing wrong with him though! The school organised to get provite doctors to perform "dyslexic tests" so some kids thought "hey, what the hell it's worth a try - we even miss a morning of lessons!!". So their parents pay a few hundred quid and like magic... the doctors say they're dyslexic! As far as I know, none of the kids who paid the money weren't deemed dyslexic. It's almost like a bribe. They should at least organise proper state examinations. Two of my friends who both passed (or should that be failed?) the test admit there is nothing wrong with them but they're not exactly going to complain about having the chance to correct their grammar and spelling while we hand our papers in. When did I say I wanted it? I just think it's unfair people pay money to get a couple more marks.
I don't know what the fuss is about to be honest, who cares if they do better than they "deserve"? I certainly don't. My GCSEs are to test my knowledge and I don't care what other people get so long as I do well.
No comment......
My friend is one of the two people in the whole year (about 250 people) who has extra time but he always refuses it because he doesn't consider it fair to have an advantage over others.
Some people are just stupid and they're going to have to live with it the rest of their lives anyway so why delude them?
No comment......
My friend is one of the two people in the whole year (about 250 people) who has extra time but he always refuses it because he doesn't consider it fair to have an advantage over others.
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