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    Hi, my summative question is based on Legal realism (fact and rule scepticism)
    im finding it hard to grasp

    can anyone be willing to help me?


    the question is:

    facts are more important than legal rules when determining the outcome of cases

    thank you in advance!
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    (Original post by AthiaKarim)
    Hi, my summative question is based on Legal realism (fact and rule scepticism)
    im finding it hard to grasp

    can anyone be willing to help me?


    the question is:

    facts are more important than legal rules when determining the outcome of cases

    thank you in advance!
    Facts are more important than legal rules in determining cases because facts provide the necessary concrete evidence that can then be used as a platform to come up with the appropiate decision but they don't have to necessarily follow the rules!


    For example the rule might be youll get X number of years in prison for commiting any kind of homicide whereas the facts might state that the culprit suffered from an uncontrollable psycholigical disorder thus the sentence given will be "lighter" than the legal rules might otherwise suggest!
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    i don't do law so this migjt be complete rubbish but you nice so imma try help.... :lol:
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    (Original post by trapking)
    Facts are more important than legal rules in determining cases because facts provide the necessary concrete evidence that can then be used as a platform to come up with the appropiate decision but they don't have to necessarily follow the rules!


    For example the rule might be youll get X number of years in prison for commiting any kind of homicide whereas the facts might state that the culprit suffered from an uncontrollable psycholigical disorder thus the sentence given will be "lighter" than the legal rules might otherwise suggest!
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    i don't do law so this migjt be complete rubbish but you nice so imma try help.... :lol:
    That does somehow relate with my question but I was more confused on the philosophers ideas on rules and fact scepticism.

    But I HUGELY appreciate how you tried to help, that's really kind!

    That's really sweet of you so thank you

    Thank you a lot 😘 Haha
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    (Original post by AthiaKarim)
    That does somehow relate with my question but I was more confused on the philosophers ideas on rules and fact scepticism.

    But I HUGELY appreciate how you tried to help, that's really kind!

    That's really sweet of you so thank you

    Thank you a lot 😘 Haha
    youre welcome x

    when you say philosophers ideas on rules and fact scepticism do you mean more of the ethics behind the two?

    I'm kinda learning that atm (the ethics part of it) :ahee:
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    (Original post by trapking)
    youre welcome x

    when you say philosophers ideas on rules and fact scepticism do you mean more of the ethics behind the two?

    I'm kinda learning that atm (the ethics part of it) :ahee:
    Yes! I think that would kind of relate!

    What philosophers are you studying?
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    (Original post by AthiaKarim)
    Yes! I think that would kind of relate!

    What philosophers are you studying?
    Aristotle, Epictetus and some other ones who I can't remember the names of

    :lol:
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    (Original post by AthiaKarim)
    That does somehow relate with my question but I was more confused on the philosophers ideas on rules and fact scepticism.

    But I HUGELY appreciate how you tried to help, that's really kind!

    That's really sweet of you so thank you

    Thank you a lot 😘 Haha
    Judicial review, ultra vires; natural law, Saint Thomas Aquinas and the notion of laws being in a hierarchy, perhaps Austen's Command Theory; or Max Weber's Monopoly of Violence.
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    (Original post by apronedsamurai)
    Judicial review, ultra vires; natural law, Saint Thomas Aquinas and the notion of laws being in a hierarchy, perhaps Austen's Command Theory; or Max Weber's Monopoly of Violence.
    Thanks for the help! Read legal journals on most of that apart from Max Webers monopoly of violence which sounds very interesting.

    How can I link this to my question which is stated in the original post?
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    (Original post by trapking)
    Aristotle, Epictetus and some other ones who I can't remember the names of

    :lol:
    Do you know anything about Plato? And his argument on knowledge and opinion by any chance
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    (Original post by AthiaKarim)
    Do you know anything about Plato? And his argument on knowledge and opinion by any chance
    nope

    gotta admit tho this law stuff looks interesting...i like challenging law students with othordox theories
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    (Original post by trapking)
    nope

    gotta admit tho this law stuff looks interesting...i like challenging law students with othordox theories
    Well never mind haha, I'll email my lecturer and annoy him with that question haha

    And it is really interesting. We have a chance to study bioethics for third year (the optional modules) i think I might study it. Is thag similar to what you're studying, can you give me an insight?
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    (Original post by AthiaKarim)
    Well never mind haha, I'll email my lecturer and annoy him with that question haha

    And it is really interesting. We have a chance to study bioethics for third year (the optional modules) i think I might study it. Is thag similar to what you're studying, can you give me an insight?
    I literally gave a seminar last week on bioethics particularly with regards to genetic modification! It's pretty interesting I think there's a lot of philosophical stuff like whether human morals or society morals play a role in influencing such matters

    Ethics is very interesting but very weird and difficult to understand! Our professional ethics course is more linked to managerial positions/project management!
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    (Original post by trapking)
    I literally gave a seminar last week on bioethics particularly with regards to genetic modification! It's pretty interesting I think there's a lot of philosophical stuff like whether human morals or society morals play a role in influencing such matters

    Ethics is very interesting but very weird and difficult to understand! Our professional ethics course is more linked to managerial positions/project management!
    That is something I'm really interested by. I love philosophy and the issues around morality, even more so, questioning it.

    The modules I've picked are very philosophical and I think studying bioethics will fit nicely with it. I'm just worried that I won't be able to digest the work lol

    Where do you study your course btw?
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    (Original post by AthiaKarim)
    That is something I'm really interested by. I love philosophy and the issues around morality, even more so, questioning it.

    The modules I've picked are very philosophical and I think studying bioethics will fit nicely with it. I'm just worried that I won't be able to digest the work lol

    Where do you study your course btw?
    Do it!!!! You'll be fine as long as you don't overload yourself with the other options (pick what will give you the best grades ) How are you coping this term? I still lack motivation lol X

    University of Sussex- Mechanical engineering.
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    (Original post by trapking)
    Do it!!!! You'll be fine as long as you don't overload yourself with the other options (pick what will give you the best grades ) How are you coping this term? I still lack motivation lol X

    University of Sussex- Mechanical engineering.
    yeah ive asked people of what they recommend in terms of studying subjects that will help me get the best grades
    and theyre are some that i am genuinely interested in that ive picked too

    this year hasnt been too good, had a bad start to the year :/ affected my work alot but im hoping the university will help me with that haha

    and aww try and get motivated!! exams are round the corner
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    (Original post by AthiaKarim)
    this year hasnt been too good, had a bad start to the year :/ affected my work alot but im hoping the university will help me with that haha
    exactly the same with me except i have no excuses than to blame myself! I passed my exams in January but not that well (or at least to my usual standards)...
    (Original post by AthiaKarim)
    and aww try and get motivated!! exams are round the corner
    always leave stuff till the last minute. I never learn....revision time feels like death :lol:
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    (Original post by trapking)
    exactly the same with me except i have no excuses than to blame myself! I passed my exams in January but not that well (or at least to my usual standards)...

    always leave stuff till the last minute. I never learn....revision time feels like death :lol:
    oh im sorry...i hope youre better now? are you ok?

    and it really does lol it drains the life out of my soul

    try not to leave it till last min! that will have detrimental effects on your health and your grades x
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    (Original post by AthiaKarim)
    oh im sorry...i hope youre better now? are you ok?
    kinda, tryna survive

    (Original post by AthiaKarim)
    and it really does lol it drains the life out of my soul

    try not to leave it till last min! that will have detrimental effects on your health and your grades x
    thanks Athia xo
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    (Original post by trapking)
    kinda, tryna survive



    thanks Athia xo
    That's good 💜
 
 
 
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