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    (Original post by LordMallard)
    Free university education would largely be a huge subsidy to the middle class. Even if the pupil is from a poorer background (in which case I believe that they should get a reduction in fees) they will most likely be earning more than those that didn't go to university.
    But even the middle class struggle to fund phd's.
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    (Original post by N-R-G)
    But even the middle class struggle to fund phd's.
    I personally don't think it's a priority. Funding for the NHS and tax cuts are more important in my opinion.
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    (Original post by LordMallard)
    I personally don't think it's a priority. Funding for the NHS and tax cuts are more important in my opinion.
    Everything well almost will be paid for by nationalisation don't worry about that we should have a right to free education its pretty standard socialism.
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    (Original post by queen-bee)
    Thank you
    Afwan, habibti :kiss:

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    I taught my dad a little Arabic today, as we walked through town and the French market, btw :pierre:

    Although I really do like Corbyn :innocent:
    What do you find likeable about him? :holmes:
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    (Original post by queen-bee)
    Because they don't trust labour to handle the country
    I agree. People need to realise that Corbyns Labour is not the same as the 2000s. Economic policies have changed. Yes Labour do wish to increase borrowing but they wish to invest it to stimulate growth. With interest rates at record low levels who wouldn't invest?
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    (Original post by Foo.mp3)
    Afwan, habibti :kiss:

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    I taught my dad a little Arabic today, as we walked through town and the French market, btw :pierre:

    What do you find likeable about him? :holmes:
    Hahah I bet he was so shocked as to how you acquired all that bilingual knowledge :mmm:

    His principles. He's a very likeable character in general
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    The Tory b*** are currently pissing on the poor
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    (Original post by queen-bee)
    Hahah I bet he was so shocked as to how you acquired all that bilingual knowledge :mmm:
    He was a little taken aback, aye; the poor guy has had to endure my Islamophobic/anti-Islamophile-elites ranty-pants for God knows how long! :mmm:

    His principles. He's a very likeable character in general
    What principles are these? What are his general likeable qualities?

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    The Tory b*** are currently pissing on the poor
    They learnt from the best

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    Because, honestly, i think they are doing a fantastic job- unemployment is down, the deficit is down, infrastructure is being improved, minimum wage is being increased. Benefits have been capped to encourage more people to work. They are giving us an EU referendum (unlike Labour). They are committed to maintaining a nuclear deterrent to keep us safe. They are also damaging ISIS and other terrorist groups through air strikes and by taking a no-nonsense approach to tackling radicalisation. They are providing a 7-day NHS to ensure that we have a high-quality healthcare system. They are improving educational opportunities and expanding apprenticeships.

    All of those things are pretty good achievements considering the mess we were in under Labour. some things we still need to address are pay for junior doctors, the shortage of teachers and their pay and providing developers better subsidies for building new homes.
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    i only vote for one party
    screaming lord sutch's official monster raving loony party
    since it was founded in 1983 they have held no seats in parlerment and they best figure of votes was less than 8,000 vote between 25 candidates
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    (Original post by Foo.mp3)
    He was a little taken aback, aye; the poor guy has had to endure my Islamophobic/anti-Islamophile-elites ranty-pants for God knows how long! :mmm:

    What principles are these? What are his general likeable qualities?

    They learnt from the best
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    Tory and Labour are the same
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    no one else to vote for ...
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    Funny how Conservative supporters merely take what Dave and Gideon say at face value.

    I'd take New Labour over this god awful government any day.
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    (Original post by Trapz99)
    Because, honestly, i think they are doing a fantastic job- unemployment is down, the deficit is down, infrastructure is being improved, minimum wage is being increased. Benefits have been capped to encourage more people to work. They are giving us an EU referendum (unlike Labour). They are committed to maintaining a nuclear deterrent to keep us safe. They are also damaging ISIS and other terrorist groups through air strikes and by taking a no-nonsense approach to tackling radicalisation. They are providing a 7-day NHS to ensure that we have a high-quality healthcare system. They are improving educational opportunities and expanding apprenticeships.

    All of those things are pretty good achievements considering the mess we were in under Labour. some things we still need to address are pay for junior doctors, the shortage of teachers and their pay and providing developers better subsidies for building new homes.
    They need work experience for the afterlife I guess.
    http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news...arebar_twitter

    This is the problem. You are either a sadistic human and/or have a laissez faire capitalism don;t give a **** attitude or there is a complete disconnect between the reality and the party political propaganda machine that voters buy into. I'm gonna go with the latter considering you sound like a Tory PR spokesperson.

    Most people are not evil and do not support that. But it is like negligent incompetence leading to manslaughter...

    Take the ESA off people with no legs but its fine. It;s all part of the long term economic plan for a low tax, high wage economy. Or whatever the ******** they spoon feed us is.
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    (Original post by Trapz99)
    Because, honestly, i think they are doing a fantastic job- unemployment is down, the deficit is down, infrastructure is being improved, minimum wage is being increased. Benefits have been capped to encourage more people to work. They are giving us an EU referendum (unlike Labour). They are committed to maintaining a nuclear deterrent to keep us safe. They are also damaging ISIS and other terrorist groups through air strikes and by taking a no-nonsense approach to tackling radicalisation. They are providing a 7-day NHS to ensure that we have a high-quality healthcare system. They are improving educational opportunities and expanding apprenticeships.

    All of those things are pretty good achievements considering the mess we were in under Labour. some things we still need to address are pay for junior doctors, the shortage of teachers and their pay and providing developers better subsidies for building new homes.
    Unemployment is down because of benefits sanctions and workfare
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    Lack of a proper opposition. Labour, Lib Dems, Greens, Plaid and the SNP are largely on the same page but can't agree to work together and form a coherent opposition. It's divide and rule without any effort to effect it from the rulers.
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    (Original post by ChaoticButterfly)
    They need work experience for the afterlife I guess.
    http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news...arebar_twitter

    This is the problem. You are either a sadistic human and/or have a laissez faire capitalism don;t give a **** attitude or there is a complete disconnect between the reality and the party political propaganda machine that voters buy into. I'm gonna go with the latter considering you sound like a Tory PR spokesperson.

    Most people are not evil and do not support that. But it is like negligent incompetence leading to manslaughter...

    Take the ESA off people with no legs but its fine. It;s all part of the long term economic plan for a low tax, high wage economy. Or whatever the ******** they spoon feed us is.
    Don't trust everything you see on the news, especially the mirror. Disabled people are not being left out on the streets to die- they are still being provided disability benefits as well as healthcare. Of course I do not support disabled or terminally ill people being forced to work- the cuts to ESA benefits are targeted at work-related activity groups. These are people who are currently incapable of work but will be able to work in the future. Out of this group, not enough people are getting back into work so it is important that we provide an incentive for them to get back into employment.

    The best way to create a prosperous society is by putting working people first, lowering their income taxes and increasing minimum wages, while maintaining a safety net for people that do not work. The recent cuts to ESA will help us achieve that goal of encouraging more work-related activity group people to train for employment and earn a higher income through their work.
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    (Original post by Foo.mp3)
    He was a little taken aback, aye; the poor guy has had to endure my Islamophobic/anti-Islamophile-elites ranty-pants for God knows how long! :mmm:

    What principles are these? What are his general likeable qualities?

    They learnt from the best

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    I can't imagine what was going through his mind. Did he ask where you had learnt it from? And more importantly,shocked with the speech?!

    Nobody can now be in doubt about what drives Jeremy. His is a warrior against injustice, poverty and inequality at home and abroad. He also encourages young people to get involved into politics with messages of positive change. He's spoken out about human rights abuses by countries such as Saudia Arabia. He's a sincere man. He's faithful to his supporters,also. :love:
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    (Original post by InMemoryOf)
    Im not pro-Labour but with the 9k Tuition Fee changes/NHS Junior doctors etc, why the hell are people still voting these douchebags.

    Please do not say, the alternatives are even worse. We do not vote by voting the best of the worst. Regards
    We do vote for the best of the worst.

    Are you seriously suggesting that we shouldn't? Is this how you make decisions in other areas of your life?

    Taking the least bad option makes the only logical sense. Especially when
    Labour would bankrupt the country, hand the Falklands back to Argentina, have nuclear submarines sail around without missiles, cosy up to Muslim terrorists, and so on and on.

    If you seriously care about getting the Tories out work to make Labour electable.

    Because people will ALWAYS vote for the best of the worst and quite rightly so.
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    (Original post by _icecream)
    Tory and Labour are the same
    There are certainly neo-con parallels between Cameron’s ‘modern conservatives’ and Blair's third-way ‘New Labour’, but traditionalist Tories (who grow more conservative by the day) and Corbynite Labour movement (who grow more Socialist by the day) are further apart today than they have been for a generation

    (Original post by Buonaparte)
    Funny how Conservative supporters merely take what Dave and Gideon say at face value
    News to me. Source: met dozens of party activists, and spoke to scores of supporters, at the 2015 election. Many are a lot more savy than that

    I'd take New Labour over this god awful government any day
    That would be extremely foolish/not in the national interest, cretinous as some Tories may be

    (Original post by queen-bee)
    Did he ask where you had learnt it from?
    Yup. I told him you’d taught me a few words

    more importantly, shocked with the speech?!
    A little surprised, particularly at the fact I can pronounce them somewhat authentically, if not quite shocked! :mmm:

    His is a warrior against injustice
    Yet he believes we should establish back channels to negotiate with ISIS. Principled?

    poverty and inequality at home and abroad
    Yet he accepts an 85% pay rise, a six figure salary, and an official car funded by the tax payer (having refused to interview in a car pre-leadership for environmental reasons) - money that could go towards providing for a number of far less privileged people in our society. Principled?

    He also encourages young people to get involved into politics with messages of positive change
    Yet he refuses to intervene/discipline/condemn young political activists, enthused and buoyed by his coming, when they abuse, threaten, egg and assault delegates from other political parties (as they did at the Conservative Party conference). Principled?

    He's spoken out about human rights abuses by countries such as Saudi Arabia
    Yet he refers to terror organisations – with appalling records on human rights violations – such as Hamas and Hezbollah, as his friends. Principled?

    He's a sincere man. He's faithful to his supporters, also
    He is sincerely an ideologue, this is true, but this does not make for a great man, never mind a great political leader, let along an appropriate person to lead the country
 
 
 
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