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B945 - Sex Discrimination (Election Candidates) Act 2002 (Repeal) Bill watch

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    Sex Discrimination (Election Candidates) Act 2002 (Repeal) Bill
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    Repeal the Sex Discrimination (Election Candidates) Act 2002

    BE IT ENACTED by The Queen's most Excellent Majesty, by and with the advice and consent of the Commons in this present Parliament assembled, in accordance with the provisions of the Parliament Acts 1911 and 1949, and by the authority of the same, as follows:-

    1) Repeal
    The Sex Discrimination (Election Candidates) Act 2002 shall be repealed in its entirety.

    2) Commencement & Short Title
    (a) This Act may be cited as the Repeal of the Sex Discrimination (Election Candidates) Act 2002.
    (b) This act will come into effect immediately upon passing.

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    For too long politics has had the impression of us making one rule for the ordinary people and one rule for ourselves. Removing this loophole where ordinary businesses are unable to discriminate based on gender but political parties can is one small step towards hopefully shifting this long standing perception.
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    Nay.
    The purposes of the Act allow political parties to select candidates based on gender in an effort to increase representation of women in politics, thereby increasing gender equality.

    The RL Labour Party has used the law to operate all-women shortlists, which were previously illegal under the Sex Discrimination Act 1975.
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    Aye

    Watch the "progressive left" say that they would prefer instead of this we see an extension to the whole of teh univerze.
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    Ummm what?! You want us to allow gender discrimination because political parties can discriminate by gender? What nonsense is this?!
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    (Original post by DMcGovern)
    Nay.
    The purposes of the Act allow political parties to select candidates based on gender in an effort to increase representation of women in politics, thereby increasing gender equality.

    The RL Labour Party has used the law to operate all-women shortlists, which were previously illegal under the Sex Discrimination Act 1975.
    TL;DR-"Discrimination is good"
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    A link to the act in the notes would have been handy
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    (Original post by Aph)
    Ummm what?! You want us to allow gender discrimination because political parties can discriminate by gender? What nonsense is this?!
    No, you got it the wrong way around, gender discrimination is already allowed, this stops it.
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    (Original post by Kay_Winters)
    A link to the act in the notes would have been handy
    I always complain about that....
    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    No, you got it the wrong way around, gender discrimination is already allowed, this stops it.
    The notes are very confusing then because it suggested that it was allowing businesses to discriminate.
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    For reference, this is the Act being repealed: http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2002/2/introduction

    This is really shoddy work. The section which applies to everywhere but Northern Ireland has already been repealed by the Equality Act 2010: http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/...dule/27/part/1

    Therefore, this Bill would affect nowhere but Northern Ireland.
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    (Original post by TheDefiniteArticle)
    For reference, this is the Act being repealed: http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2002/2/introduction

    This is really shoddy work. The section which applies to everywhere but Northern Ireland has already been repealed by the Equality Act 2010: http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/...dule/27/part/1

    Therefore, this Bill would affect nowhere but Northern Ireland.
    And yet Labour still deployed all women's shortlists last year, did they not?
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    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    TL;DR-"Discrimination is good"
    It increases gender equality and representation in Parliaments.
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    http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2002/2/section/2
    The bill currently only applies to NI.
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    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    And yet Labour still deployed all women's shortlists last year, did they not?
    I'm not a Labourite, I wouldn't know.
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    Whilst in some cases I can understand the unfair strain, if you will, on business and groups; I feel the weight is heavily on the side of ensuring less negative discrimination can occur.

    Nay.
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    (Original post by DMcGovern)
    It increases gender equality and representation in Parliaments.
    Which is a necessarily good thing because? Which is more important, that incompetent people get jobs because they have a vagina or that competent people get the jobs even if they have a penis? Can we expect the Socialists to put forward a piece of legislation to make such discrimination legal on the basis of sexuality, ethnicity, etc?
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    If the Act is just what DMcGovern is talking about with allowing all-female shortlists, then aye. I disagree with the concept of all female lists, people should be elected on their suitability to the job, not because of their gender. If we had multi-member constituencies with STV of whatever then I might be inclined to agree that a certain percentage of a parties candidates must be female, but where there is only one position then I reject the notion that the candidate has to be female. It's things like this that lead to idiots like Jess Phillips getting elected. I would rather focus on encouraging competent women to run than blocking men from running.

    Regardless, I'll have a look at the act if it reaches division, cba right now.
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    (Original post by EricAteYou)
    Whilst in some cases I can understand the unfair strain, if you will, on business and groups; I feel the weight is heavily on the side of ensuring less negative discrimination can occur.

    Nay.
    Except this is negative discrimination, positive discrimination depends on perspective, if you're the one getting the job that you shouldn't then it is rather positive, if you're the one losing the job because of it, not so much. All discrimination is both positive and negative.
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    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    Which is a necessarily good thing because? Which is more important, that incompetent people get jobs because they have a vagina or that competent people get the jobs even if they have a penis? Can we expect the Socialists to put forward a piece of legislation to make such discrimination legal on the basis of sexuality, ethnicity, etc?
    One of the main problems with Parliament is that it claims to be representative of the population yet it is made up mainly of middle-upper class white elderly English 'gentlemen'.

    Women make up 22% of the HoC but 50.7% in UKpopulation.
    Ethnic minorities are 10% of the population in the UKbut only 4% in the HoC.
    Over 400 MP’s (62%) are white men over 40.
    90% attended university but only 20% of thepopulation have.
    1/3 of MPs attended private schools compared to 10%of the population.

    Reeaally showing you understand people's problems.
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    I appreciate the sentiment, though affirmative action actually worked very well in the 20th centure USA for getting black people the work experience they needed to be seen as competent and able as white people. However, in this day and age, women are generally seen as capable as men and we have laws in place to make sure that negative discrimination doesn't take place in the workplace and I think that the same rules should apply to parliament.


    But as TheDefiniteArticle said, this only affects N.Ireland so it'll be a nay from me (not that it matters, I'm just a bloke who did a bill once)
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    Interesting, on the fence because I do support some "women only" candidates to increase representation, but think parties should be allowed to pick freely. Nay.

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