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    (Original post by looktoyourright)
    Well I think Oxford will be easier to get in due to lower grade requirements and also because the mats sound 'easier' than steps
    The computer science questions are very different to anything you may have done before. Whereas STEP is like A Level on steroids, the CompSci questions on the MAT are utterly alien.

    Also, from what I've seen, the interviews are harder at Oxford than Cambridge. Cambridge weigh UMS so highly, so many people come to interview with next to no chance of getting in, even if they do really well. On the other hand, many students with high UMS don't have to do that well at interview to get in.

    Oxford value the interview above all else.
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    (Original post by quoderatdemonstr)
    The computer science questions are very different to anything you may have done before. Whereas STEP is like A Level on steroids, the CompSci questions on the MAT are utterly alien.

    Also, from what I've seen, the interviews are harder at Oxford than Cambridge. Cambridge weigh UMS so highly, so many people come to interview with next to no chance of getting in, even if they do really well. On the other hand, many students with high UMS don't have to do that well at interview to get in.

    Oxford value the interview above all else.
    But if I get A* AA predicted is there even a chance of applying as their requirement is A*A*A???
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    (Original post by looktoyourright)
    But if I get A* AA predicted is there even a chance of applying as their requirement is A*A*A???
    Probably not. If you had a reason, or you're from an underachieving school, then maybe.

    I guess you should choose Oxford, but bear in mind that your chances of succeeding at interview (let alone MAT) are appreciably lower than if you'd got good UMS and A*A*A predictions, and applied to Cambridge.
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    (Original post by looktoyourright)
    Well I think Oxford will be easier to get in due to lower grade requirements and also because the mats sound 'easier' than steps
    As far as I'm aware STEP is only a requirement for Computer Science and Maths at Cambridge. Most colleges will not ask for STEP for straight Computer Science.
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    (Original post by Plagioclase)
    As far as I'm aware STEP is only a requirement for Computer Science and Maths at Cambridge. Most colleges will not ask for STEP for straight Computer Science.
    STEP is sometimes asked for in Engineering too
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    (Original post by Student403)
    STEP is sometimes asked for in Engineering too
    At least according to the website, only some colleges give out STEP offers (i.e. you can choose a college that definitely won't give out a STEP offer).
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    (Original post by Plagioclase)
    At least according to the website, only some colleges give out STEP offers (i.e. you can choose a college that definitely won't give out a STEP offer).
    Yeah that's true
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    (Original post by Plagioclase)
    At least according to the website, only some colleges give out STEP offers (i.e. you can choose a college that definitely won't give out a STEP offer).
    Yep, just Christ's and Peterhouse usually give STEP offers. Also sometimes you can get one for Economics too. Not common though.
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    (Original post by jneill)
    Yep, just Christ's and Peterhouse usually give STEP offers. Also sometimes you can get one for Economics too. Not common though.
    That's good but there's no chance I will be getting A*A*A predicted I don't think I can only get 1 A* predicted
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    (Original post by looktoyourright)
    That's good but there's no chance I will be getting A*A*A predicted I don't think I can only get 1 A* predicted
    In which case consider Oxford (or Cambridge) as an aspirational choice (it's only 1 of your 5 options). And consider more "realistic" uni for your others choices. There's plenty of good unis looking for AAA.
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    (Original post by jneill)
    In which case consider Oxford (or Cambridge) as an aspirational choice (it's only 1 of your 5 options). And consider more "realistic" uni for your others choices. There's plenty of good unis looking for AAA.
    Sure. So Oxford has lower grade requirements but harder during interview and hard mats. Cambridge had higher grade requirements but easier interviews and look more at UMS and depending on what college I won't have to do all STEPS?
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    (Original post by jneill)
    In which case consider Oxford (or Cambridge) as an aspirational choice (it's only 1 of your 5 options). And consider more "realistic" uni for your others choices. There's plenty of good unis looking for AAA.
    Would an A* count in my first language
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    (Original post by looktoyourright)
    Sure. So Oxford has lower grade requirements but harder during interview and hard mats. Cambridge had higher grade requirements but easier interviews and look more at UMS and depending on what college I won't have to do all STEPS?
    Yes, but in your case, even if you do really well at interview at Cambridge, they'll likely still reject you due to grades
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    (Original post by quoderatdemonstr)
    Yes, but in your case, even if you do really well at interview at Cambridge, they'll likely still reject you due to grades
    But what if I got A*A*AA but one of the A* is for an a level that is my first language do those not count ?
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    (Original post by looktoyourright)
    Sure. So Oxford has lower grade requirements but harder during interview and hard mats. Cambridge had higher grade requirements but easier interviews and look more at UMS and depending on what college I won't have to do all STEPS?
    I wouldn't say the interview is harder or easier between Oxford and Cambridge. They both consider your overall holistic application, not any single part in isolation.

    Cambridge also now has an admissions assessment, like MAT, for compsci except it's taken at interview.

    You might want to look at this thread (nb. CSAT was introduced for some colleges in 2016 but will be standard across the uni, except mature colleges, for 2017 entry):
    http://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/show....php?t=3608599

    (Original post by looktoyourright)
    But what if I got A*A*AA but one of the A* is for an a level that is my first language do those not count ?
    They are likely to ask for the A*s in Maths or F Maths, and Physics
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    (Original post by quoderatdemonstr)

    Also, from what I've seen, the interviews are harder at Oxford than Cambridge.
    ...

    Oxford value the interview above all else.
    Source?

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    Youtube search Cambridge Computer Science interview. I'm assuming they falsely portrayed it as easier than it is to attract more applicants, but all the questions were extensions of A level Maths.

    Oxford use question styles that are a vast departure from the normal Maths curriculum. In my own experience, I wasn't asked a single question that could be considered "just a harder version of A Level Maths". Look on the oxford cs website for sample interview questions, and you'll see.
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    (Original post by jneill)
    I wouldn't say the interview is harder or easier between Oxford and Cambridge. They both consider your overall holistic application, not any single part in isolation.

    Cambridge also now has an admissions assessment, like MAT, for compsci except it's taken at interview.

    You might want to look at this thread (nb. CSAT was introduced for some colleges in 2016 but will be standard across the uni, except mature colleges, for 2017 entry):
    http://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/show....php?t=3608599

    They are likely to ask for the A*s in Maths or F Maths, and Physics
    What if I got A in ft maths . A* in maths A* my first Lang . A physics ? Is that good or my first Lang a* doesn't count
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    (Original post by looktoyourright)
    What if I got A in ft maths . A* in maths A* my first Lang . A physics ? Is that good or my first Lang a* doesn't count
    As per my earlier reply, they are likely to want A*s in relevant subjects (i.e. maths/sciences)
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    (Original post by quoderatdemonstr)
    Youtube search Cambridge Computer Science interview. I'm assuming they falsely portrayed it as easier than it is to attract more applicants, but all the questions were extensions of A level Maths.

    Oxford use question styles that are a vast departure from the normal Maths curriculum. In my own experience, I wasn't asked a single question that could be considered "just a harder version of A Level Maths". Look on the oxford cs website for sample interview questions, and you'll see.
    Yep, I wouldn't necessarily go by YT vids. The CSAT is now a key part of the process for Cambridge.
    https://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/admissions/...missions-test/

    And the source for your assertion "Oxford value the interview above all else"?

    Perhaps gavinlowe could comment?
 
 
 
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