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alrite,
im thinking of applying for the above course and was wondering wether anyone on here does it.
would you recommend it?
is it very competitive?
going over on the 27th june for the open day. should be good
im thinking of applying for the above course and was wondering wether anyone on here does it.
would you recommend it?
is it very competitive?
going over on the 27th june for the open day. should be good
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AAB excluding General Studies. GCSE Mathematics grade A and GCSE English grade B required if not taken at A or AS level.
it doesnt say anything about having to have maths at a level, so im guessing although there will be maths involved, it will be new stuff and so, with an a* in gcse, youll be ok, well thats in my opnion anyway
it doesnt say anything about having to have maths at a level, so im guessing although there will be maths involved, it will be new stuff and so, with an a* in gcse, youll be ok, well thats in my opnion anyway
its very competitive to get into. theres only about 50 places.
but for the first year business accounting and finance people do the exact same modules as accounting and finance which is easier to get into.
if u havent done a level maths you have to go to some extra lessons at the beginning because the main maths module has a lot of a level stuff in.well its not so much extra lessons just the ppl who have done a level dont have to go. but there are loads of ppl who havent done it.
apart from pretty simple maths in some modules theres only 1 main maths module. at least at the beginning anyways.
but for the first year business accounting and finance people do the exact same modules as accounting and finance which is easier to get into.
if u havent done a level maths you have to go to some extra lessons at the beginning because the main maths module has a lot of a level stuff in.well its not so much extra lessons just the ppl who have done a level dont have to go. but there are loads of ppl who havent done it.
apart from pretty simple maths in some modules theres only 1 main maths module. at least at the beginning anyways.
You dont need a level maths, the main maths stuff is statistics. But it is very hard.
If you dont know whether you can get the grades then id apply for accounting and finance as well. Its much less competitive. For business accounting and finance you have to do all the interviews too to get you offer, although if they dont offer you a place you automatically get considered for the normal accounting course.
Im on the normal accounting course now and im so glad i didnt do business accounting and finance in the end. Although it is undeniably a great course i wouldnt want to be away from all my friends for 1/3 of every year and this course will get me to the same place in the end. Theres so much extra stuff you can do (like little course with pwc etc) that can make you really employable when you graduate.
I hope that helps. Feel free to ask me about any thing to do with it and ill try and help. I have friends on both courses
If you dont know whether you can get the grades then id apply for accounting and finance as well. Its much less competitive. For business accounting and finance you have to do all the interviews too to get you offer, although if they dont offer you a place you automatically get considered for the normal accounting course.
Im on the normal accounting course now and im so glad i didnt do business accounting and finance in the end. Although it is undeniably a great course i wouldnt want to be away from all my friends for 1/3 of every year and this course will get me to the same place in the end. Theres so much extra stuff you can do (like little course with pwc etc) that can make you really employable when you graduate.
I hope that helps. Feel free to ask me about any thing to do with it and ill try and help. I have friends on both courses
hanhan88
You dont need a level maths, the main maths stuff is statistics. But it is very hard.
If you dont know whether you can get the grades then id apply for accounting and finance as well. Its much less competitive. For business accounting and finance you have to do all the interviews too to get you offer, although if they dont offer you a place you automatically get considered for the normal accounting course.
Im on the normal accounting course now and im so glad i didnt do business accounting and finance in the end. Although it is undeniably a great course i wouldnt want to be away from all my friends for 1/3 of every year and this course will get me to the same place in the end. Theres so much extra stuff you can do (like little course with pwc etc) that can make you really employable when you graduate.
I hope that helps. Feel free to ask me about any thing to do with it and ill try and help. I have friends on both courses
If you dont know whether you can get the grades then id apply for accounting and finance as well. Its much less competitive. For business accounting and finance you have to do all the interviews too to get you offer, although if they dont offer you a place you automatically get considered for the normal accounting course.
Im on the normal accounting course now and im so glad i didnt do business accounting and finance in the end. Although it is undeniably a great course i wouldnt want to be away from all my friends for 1/3 of every year and this course will get me to the same place in the end. Theres so much extra stuff you can do (like little course with pwc etc) that can make you really employable when you graduate.
I hope that helps. Feel free to ask me about any thing to do with it and ill try and help. I have friends on both courses
where do you go?
the only reason im hoping to do business accounting and finance is because i am attracted to the business aspect of the course and because of its good reputation.
im worried that if i opt for the accounting and finance course i will narrow my options too much because at the moment im unsure wether i want to be an accountant.
what is the timetable for your course and if you know the business accounting and finance timetable aswell that would be great.
cheers
irish_mag
where do you go?
the only reason im hoping to do business accounting and finance is because i am attracted to the business aspect of the course and because of its good reputation.
im worried that if i opt for the accounting and finance course i will narrow my options too much because at the moment im unsure wether i want to be an accountant.
what is the timetable for your course and if you know the business accounting and finance timetable aswell that would be great.
cheers
the only reason im hoping to do business accounting and finance is because i am attracted to the business aspect of the course and because of its good reputation.
im worried that if i opt for the accounting and finance course i will narrow my options too much because at the moment im unsure wether i want to be an accountant.
what is the timetable for your course and if you know the business accounting and finance timetable aswell that would be great.
cheers
Rather than spend a whole year in the work placement, they split it up. You do 4 months in years 2,3 and 4 which makes up the placement year. This course does have a good reputation and once graduated you have to do a few more papers and you can become a chartered accountant whereas otherwise it takes longer. The AccFin course also doesnt have the placement whereas this does.
Hope that helps
irish_mag
where do you go?
the only reason im hoping to do business accounting and finance is because i am attracted to the business aspect of the course and because of its good reputation.
im worried that if i opt for the accounting and finance course i will narrow my options too much because at the moment im unsure wether i want to be an accountant.
what is the timetable for your course and if you know the business accounting and finance timetable aswell that would be great.
cheers
the only reason im hoping to do business accounting and finance is because i am attracted to the business aspect of the course and because of its good reputation.
im worried that if i opt for the accounting and finance course i will narrow my options too much because at the moment im unsure wether i want to be an accountant.
what is the timetable for your course and if you know the business accounting and finance timetable aswell that would be great.
cheers
you work for pricewaterhouse coopers. u can go all over the country. i think that about 3 people go ot each office. you have to be prepared to move where they tell you cos obviously not everyone will get their chosen place.
what do u mean by timetable.
in first year the modules taken by both business acc and finance and regular acc and finance are the same. you do accounting, business finance, quantitative maths, law, management economics and IT. so its not purely accounting.
in 2nd and 3rd year in accounting and finance as well as the core modules u choose modules from across the business school including management marketing etc and one where u start ur own business so you wont be completely confined to accounting.
newcastle has general really close links with pwc and other big accountancy firms so if u dont get into the business one u can still get involved with them doing workshops and open days etc.
irish_mag
where do you go?
the only reason im hoping to do business accounting and finance is because i am attracted to the business aspect of the course and because of its good reputation.
im worried that if i opt for the accounting and finance course i will narrow my options too much because at the moment im unsure wether i want to be an accountant.
what is the timetable for your course and if you know the business accounting and finance timetable aswell that would be great.
cheers
the only reason im hoping to do business accounting and finance is because i am attracted to the business aspect of the course and because of its good reputation.
im worried that if i opt for the accounting and finance course i will narrow my options too much because at the moment im unsure wether i want to be an accountant.
what is the timetable for your course and if you know the business accounting and finance timetable aswell that would be great.
cheers
I dont think you really understand the difference between the courses! If anything, the business accounting and finance is more geared towards becoming and accountnt than the straight accounting and finance (that im doing)
The fact that its called BUSINESS accounting and finance refers to the fact that youve had practical experience in industry, rather than youve done more business modules.
If you do the normal accounting and finance (accfin) you actually have more options to do more businessy stuff through your optional modules in years two and three, wheras on the business accounting and finance (BAF) you dont do the optional modules cos youre on placement for one term per year, if that makes sense.
You do 7 modules in year one
Introduction to IT - using excel and statistical programmes, basic structure of a network etc, fairly basic stuff
Foundations in accounting - this is the core accounting module that covers financial and management accounting.
Business finance - stocks and shares, investment appraisal
Quantitative business methods - this is where the mathsy stuff comes in, its 1/3 a level standard maths, then 2/3 statistics and to be honest, its really hard if you dont keep up through the year, Something like 30% of people on this module fail it!
Management and organisations - general management module with leadership, motivation, organisational structure etc.
Economics - half micro, half macro, a level standard stuff if youve done it
Law - intro to english law system and law of contract
Thats exactly the same for BAF and accfin in your first year. in 2nd and third (and fourth for baf) year both courses do the same core modules which are accounting based. Then BAF go off and do their placements in the third term of each year and accfin do their optional modules which you are free to choose form anywhere on the business school (law, economics, management, marketing, etc) or from elsewhere in the uni if the degree programme director approves it, ie languages.
So really if youre wanting a lessrestrictive degree go for accfin. Although theyre both great and wont necessarily close any doors, so to speak.
Hope that answers you questions
yeh thanks for the help guys, much appreciated.
i always assumed the fact it had business infront of it, it was more broader. its certainly taken alot of pressure off me for these as levels as i was struggling to see were id get my second A from.
by timetable i mean your daily timetable eg 9am - 2pm etc.
compared to other subjects and from feedback you recieve from other students do you have to put alot more effort into the accountancy and finance degrees?
i always assumed the fact it had business infront of it, it was more broader. its certainly taken alot of pressure off me for these as levels as i was struggling to see were id get my second A from.
by timetable i mean your daily timetable eg 9am - 2pm etc.
compared to other subjects and from feedback you recieve from other students do you have to put alot more effort into the accountancy and finance degrees?
irish_mag
yeh thanks for the help guys, much appreciated.
i always assumed the fact it had business infront of it, it was more broader. its certainly taken alot of pressure off me for these as levels as i was struggling to see were id get my second A from.
by timetable i mean your daily timetable eg 9am - 2pm etc.
compared to other subjects and from feedback you recieve from other students do you have to put alot more effort into the accountancy and finance degrees?
i always assumed the fact it had business infront of it, it was more broader. its certainly taken alot of pressure off me for these as levels as i was struggling to see were id get my second A from.
by timetable i mean your daily timetable eg 9am - 2pm etc.
compared to other subjects and from feedback you recieve from other students do you have to put alot more effort into the accountancy and finance degrees?
i assume it changes every year the specific times. but its not really a lot of hours.
accounting - 2 hours
law - 2 hours
economics - 2 hours
management - 1 hour
IT - 1 hour finishes at christmas
quants - 1 or 2 a week
business finance - 1 hour
ontop of that theres seminars but apart from management these arent every week.
a lot of the degrees within the business school overlap tbh. theres usually multiple courses attending each lecture.
i wouldnt say it requires too much work. the only work u get is work to prepare for seminars but thats generally pretty easy to do from lecture notes.
ur obviously supposed to read in ur own time. cant say i did a single sausage of that like (which i did regret when i came to exams leaving it til the last minute). the only thing i would say is that we seem to get more exams than most people. but i wouldnt really say there was much work to do during the year.
and also. im not totally sure but i think business accfin need 65% in all subjects to pass whereas accfin only need 40%
Yeah, its not a lot broader at all. Its certainly a more pressurised coursein the end because they expect all the students to be real high flyers so to speak! fir example youre expected to get 80% in the core accoutning module!
How do you mean put more effort in? To be honest, your degree is what you make it and will be better depending how much effort you put in and i dont think its something you can really understand till you get here and experience it. Its totally different to school. For example, for every contact hour, youre expected to put in 3 hours of self study. In reality, no-one does that, at least ive not come accross anyone in my first year like that. Dont get tied up in how many hours a course has etc because all unis will differ and you shouldnt choose your course based on the hours! Im not saying youll do that, but just dont focus on it. Some unis will give you more contact and expect less individual study, others will go the other way!
In terms of overall effort though, its not easy and its not hard. To do well you need to put in a good amount of work, but its not demanding to the point of a diminished social life! It all depends how well youd want to do!
But, next year the pace steps up apparently. Im actually looking forward to it though!
Anyway, my typical week.....
Monday
10-11 workshop
1-2 lecture
3-5 lecture
Tuesday
9-11 lecture
1-2 lecture
5-6 lecture
Wednesdays off
Thursday
11-12 lecture
12-1 lecture
3-4 lecture
4-5 seminar
Friday
3-4 lecture
So, as you can see, its pretty disjointed!
I would normally have a few hours of seminars and stuff that vary around those set hours and it works out at around 13-15 hours per week.
Out of interest, where else are you applying?
How do you mean put more effort in? To be honest, your degree is what you make it and will be better depending how much effort you put in and i dont think its something you can really understand till you get here and experience it. Its totally different to school. For example, for every contact hour, youre expected to put in 3 hours of self study. In reality, no-one does that, at least ive not come accross anyone in my first year like that. Dont get tied up in how many hours a course has etc because all unis will differ and you shouldnt choose your course based on the hours! Im not saying youll do that, but just dont focus on it. Some unis will give you more contact and expect less individual study, others will go the other way!
In terms of overall effort though, its not easy and its not hard. To do well you need to put in a good amount of work, but its not demanding to the point of a diminished social life! It all depends how well youd want to do!
But, next year the pace steps up apparently. Im actually looking forward to it though!
Anyway, my typical week.....
Monday
10-11 workshop
1-2 lecture
3-5 lecture
Tuesday
9-11 lecture
1-2 lecture
5-6 lecture
Wednesdays off
Thursday
11-12 lecture
12-1 lecture
3-4 lecture
4-5 seminar
Friday
3-4 lecture
So, as you can see, its pretty disjointed!
I would normally have a few hours of seminars and stuff that vary around those set hours and it works out at around 13-15 hours per week.
Out of interest, where else are you applying?
irish_mag
is there much math involved?
i got an A* in Gsce maths but was advised not to do it for A/AS level on the basis that i didnt do add maths.
i got an A* in Gsce maths but was advised not to do it for A/AS level on the basis that i didnt do add maths.
Don't let any ****er tell you not do maths. with an A* at gces you can defo handle it. i got a B and im doing alright. the a level maths will also help with your application onto the course cause it is V competitive.
hanhan88
Yeah, its not a lot broader at all. Its certainly a more pressurised coursein the end because they expect all the students to be real high flyers so to speak! fir example youre expected to get 80% in the core accoutning module!
How do you mean put more effort in? To be honest, your degree is what you make it and will be better depending how much effort you put in and i dont think its something you can really understand till you get here and experience it. Its totally different to school. For example, for every contact hour, youre expected to put in 3 hours of self study. In reality, no-one does that, at least ive not come accross anyone in my first year like that. Dont get tied up in how many hours a course has etc because all unis will differ and you shouldnt choose your course based on the hours! Im not saying youll do that, but just dont focus on it. Some unis will give you more contact and expect less individual study, others will go the other way!
In terms of overall effort though, its not easy and its not hard. To do well you need to put in a good amount of work, but its not demanding to the point of a diminished social life! It all depends how well youd want to do!
But, next year the pace steps up apparently. Im actually looking forward to it though!
Anyway, my typical week.....
Monday
10-11 workshop
1-2 lecture
3-5 lecture
Tuesday
9-11 lecture
1-2 lecture
5-6 lecture
Wednesdays off
Thursday
11-12 lecture
12-1 lecture
3-4 lecture
4-5 seminar
Friday
3-4 lecture
So, as you can see, its pretty disjointed!
I would normally have a few hours of seminars and stuff that vary around those set hours and it works out at around 13-15 hours per week.
Out of interest, where else are you applying?
How do you mean put more effort in? To be honest, your degree is what you make it and will be better depending how much effort you put in and i dont think its something you can really understand till you get here and experience it. Its totally different to school. For example, for every contact hour, youre expected to put in 3 hours of self study. In reality, no-one does that, at least ive not come accross anyone in my first year like that. Dont get tied up in how many hours a course has etc because all unis will differ and you shouldnt choose your course based on the hours! Im not saying youll do that, but just dont focus on it. Some unis will give you more contact and expect less individual study, others will go the other way!
In terms of overall effort though, its not easy and its not hard. To do well you need to put in a good amount of work, but its not demanding to the point of a diminished social life! It all depends how well youd want to do!
But, next year the pace steps up apparently. Im actually looking forward to it though!
Anyway, my typical week.....
Monday
10-11 workshop
1-2 lecture
3-5 lecture
Tuesday
9-11 lecture
1-2 lecture
5-6 lecture
Wednesdays off
Thursday
11-12 lecture
12-1 lecture
3-4 lecture
4-5 seminar
Friday
3-4 lecture
So, as you can see, its pretty disjointed!
I would normally have a few hours of seminars and stuff that vary around those set hours and it works out at around 13-15 hours per week.
Out of interest, where else are you applying?
dont want to stay in n.ireland and really have my heart set on newcastle so i guess if i dnt get in to university of newcastle, ill go to northumbria. they seem to offer alot of different business degrees so im sure ill find something.
did you have any time for a part-time job during your 1st year?
irish_mag
dont want to stay in n.ireland and really have my heart set on newcastle so i guess if i dnt get in to university of newcastle, ill go to northumbria. they seem to offer alot of different business degrees so im sure ill find something.
did you have any time for a part-time job during your 1st year?
did you have any time for a part-time job during your 1st year?
quite a few people did. if u havent already visited newcaslte the uni is in the very city centre so its easy to get a job close to uni
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