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    "The Financier" (endorsed by the TSR Conservative and Unionist Party)
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    (Original post by Airmed)
    When you say function correctly...?
    I mean produce outcomes for society which are better than the alternative. If the individuals who go to grammar schools are better educated at no cost to the quality of the education of the rest (which is the theory), I absolutely support them.
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    (Original post by hazzer1998)
    Mainly in the Sub forum and I posted every now and then in debates and what have you . When I became an MP my activity picked up and I would say im one of the most active MPs ( for my party anyway )
    But your activity since becoming an MP, or in the Tory forum, is not relevant to your indictment of gladiator's lack of activity in the public forum before becoming an MP, surely?
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    (Original post by TheDefiniteArticle)
    I mean produce outcomes for society which are better than the alternative. If the individuals who go to grammar schools are better educated at no cost to the quality of the education of the rest (which is the theory), I absolutely support them.
    That's hard to achieve though. I went to a secondary school for my A Level Politics (as it wasn't offered at my grammar) and the quality of teaching differences was absurd. I hated going there because while the teachers tried, the students didn't give a ****, and so soon enough the teachers gave up.
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    (Original post by Airmed)
    That's hard to achieve though. I went to a secondary school for my A Level Politics (as it wasn't offered at my grammar) and the quality of teaching differences was absurd. I hated going there because while the teachers tried, the students didn't give a ****, and so soon enough the teachers gave up.
    That is hard to achieve. And that's the problem - you can't have grammar schools which attract all the good teachers since those who benefit from grammar school are likely to benefit less from good teaching than those are less gifted.
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    (Original post by Life_peer)
    Excuse me?

    1. Yeah, sure, every bit of compromising evidence is just banter…

    “You've stolen a million quid from the company!”
    “That was just banter, mate…”
    “Acquitted!”

    2. ‘Not much’ is equal to zero posts.

    3. You could not write your own manifesto in five days despite your strong resolve and support for our Socialists? You think those two-ish MP seats and a strong trend of decline will allow you to lead the virtual country? :eek:

    At least don't insult our intellect with your clueless phrases… :rolleyes:
    I am not insulting your intellect or anyones in the house for that matter. I may not have posted before but I sense a hint of worry that the Socialists will win because of your character assasination.I dont think the Socialists are in decline look at Syriza in Greece, Podemos in Spain, Corbyn in Uk and Bernie in America the tides are turning in favour for the Socialists
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    (Original post by Gladiator12345)
    I am not insulting your intellect or anyones in the house for that matter. I may not have posted before but I sense a hint of worry that the Socialists will win because of your character assasination.I dont think the Socialists are in decline look at Syriza in Greece, Podemos in Spain, Corbyn in Uk and Bernie in America the tides are turning in favour for the Socialists
    I'd say the Socialists are more likely to win because of the lack of other left-wing(ish) parties contesting the by-election. Basically, many of the people who would have voted for Labour or the Liberals if they were fielding a candidate will vote for the Socialists as the closest alternative, and that's on top of the Socialists' own voters. Not enough vote-splitting on the left, I fear.

    Also, Bernie Sanders and (to a lesser extent) Jeremy Corbyn aren't socialists in the traditional sense. They're social democrats: the sane alternative to socialists. xD
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    (Original post by Gladiator12345)
    I am not insulting your intellect or anyones in the house for that matter. I may not have posted before but I sense a hint of worry that the Socialists will win because of your character assasination.I dont think the Socialists are in decline look at Syriza in Greece, Podemos in Spain, Corbyn in Uk and Bernie in America the tides are turning in favour for the Socialists
    Do you realise you're on TSR? If I'm afraid of a party on here, it ain't Socialists for sure… Even if you get one of these two seats, it will be only because of Labour and Green absence and change practically nothing.
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    (Original post by Airmed)
    I might have been baptised a Catholic but my religious views are more in line with Protestantism (my ancestors' religion, actually).

    How can I ever be a socialist when I was grammar school educated and I am all for grammar schools? That I think people who laze about in the benefits system and don't actively look for a job when they are able to work give people like some in my family a bad name when they had to be on benefits because of sickness or raising children on their own with no support?

    I'm a centrist, but I lean centre right on most things these days. It's adulthood. It's destroyed me.
    Sure Tony Benn was a proper left winger and he was privately educated, went to Oxford and got a PPE degree!
    We don't agree with benefits cheats either, they're leeches on workers' hard efforts in the economy - although they are few, despite what the Daily Mail claims.

    Socialism guarantees religious and civil liberty, equal rights and equal opportunities of all its citizens, and declares its resolve to pursue the happiness and prosperity of the whole nation and of all its parts, cherishing all the children of the nation equally, and oblivious of the differences carefully fostered by an alien government, which have divided a minority in the past.
    (I think you know where that bit's from )

    If you think about it, the GAA is, in a way, socialist. All profits are reinvested into the people at the very bottom of the chain - the clubs. Which is why the most expensive, newest, most well-equipped sports facilities in most towns and villages are the GAA grounds - have ye seen St Mary's GAA in Rosslare? It far outshines most of the grounds I've seen in the North and even Kerry!


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    (Original post by Gladiator12345)
    I am not insulting your intellect or anyones in the house for that matter. I may not have posted before but I sense a hint of worry that the Socialists will win because of your character assasination.I dont think the Socialists are in decline look at Syriza in Greece, Podemos in Spain, Corbyn in Uk and Bernie in America the tides are turning in favour for the Socialists
    You think Bernie is a socialist?
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    (Original post by Gladiator12345)
    I think all of the house knows who I am now mate and I think they might be a hint of worry from a lot of people in the house that the Socialists will wim
    I have no idea who you are, but I don't really know who I am either
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    (Original post by nebelbon)
    You think Bernie is a socialist?
    He isnt but is only percieved to be a socialist because the Americans overton window is shifter way to the right. But in essence he isnt
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    (Original post by Life_peer)
    Do you realise you're on TSR? If I'm afraid of a party on here, it ain't Socialists for sure… Even if you get one of these two seats, it will be only because of Labour and Green absence and change practically nothing.
    Conceeding defeat?
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    To be fair I wouldn't be scared of the socs as L_p. All we do is suggest excellent, House-unifying legislation.
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    (Original post by Gladiator12345)
    He isnt but is only percieved to be a socialist because the Americans overton window is shifter way to the right. But in essence he isnt
    And also because he incorrectly identifies as one. :rolleyes:
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    (Original post by Gladiator12345)
    I am not insulting your intellect or anyones in the house for that matter. I may not have posted before but I sense a hint of worry that the Socialists will win because of your character assasination.I dont think the Socialists are in decline look at Syriza in Greece, Podemos in Spain, Corbyn in Uk and Bernie in America the tides are turning in favour for the Socialists
    Don't get too worked up over Lp - it's too easy to fall into that trap and in the end you'll never convince him that you're right


    (Original post by Hydeman)
    Also, Bernie Sanders and (to a lesser extent) Jeremy Corbyn aren't socialists in the traditional sense. They're social democrats: the sane alternative to socialists. xD
    I wouldn't say that Corbyn is a social democrat, he's definitely a democratic socialist. He subscribes to ideals such as nationalisation of industry and has been friendly towards the Socialist Party - social democracy would be Tony Blair's New Labour.
    Both Corbyn and Sanders have showed support for the RA/their ideology over their careers, which most social democrats wouldn't. I think Sanders is more on the fence between SD and DS
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    (Original post by DMcGovern)
    Don't get too worked up over Lp - it's too easy to fall into that trap and in the end you'll never convince him that you're right

    Har dot convoice someone youren right whenyou're wrong
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    (Original post by TheDefiniteArticle)
    To be fair I wouldn't be scared of the socs as L_p. All we do is suggest excellent, House-unifying legislation.
    Lol
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    (Original post by mobbsy91)
    Har dot convoice someone youren right whenyou're wrong
    Sorry?
    Did you just have a seizure when you were writing that?
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    (Original post by mobbsy91)
    Har dot convoice someone youren right whenyou're wrong
    It's also difficult to convince someone when you're not speaking the same language as them.
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    (Original post by TheDefiniteArticle)
    I ask the House... had anyone ever heard of hazzer1998 around here BEFORE he became an MP?
    Yes, though not necessarily for good reasons.
 
 
 
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