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Modern feminism isn't completely about women anymore, they are now operating on a victim basis and they see Muslims as the biggest victims so much they have girls apologising for being raped and defend it from those who think it is unacceptable.
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Like a lot of things, western feminism is only concerned with its own plight, and doesnt actually care too much about the plight of those in other cultures and countries, despite their plight being more severe. As an example of this, there are a number of articles online that discuss how western feminism is quite ethnocentric, and doesnt give much consideration to the plight that ethnic minority women in these countries face.
Thus any feminism movement against islam is actually most likely to come from muslim countries, but feminism in the middle east has always been strongly clamped down and repressed.
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The same reason british people are up in arms when a british person gets killed in a terrorist attack abroad, but would not give two chits if it had been a native.
Like a lot of things, western feminism is only concerned with its own plight, and doesnt actually care too much about the plight of those in other cultures and countries, despite their plight being more severe. As an example of this, there are a number of articles online that discuss how western feminism is quite ethnocentric, and doesnt give much consideration to the plight that ethnic minority women in these countries face.
Thus any feminism movement against islam is actually most likely to come from muslim countries, but feminism in the middle east has always been strongly clamped down and repressed.
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The same reason british people are up in arms when a british person gets killed in a terrorist attack abroad, but would not give two chits if it had been a native.
Like a lot of things, western feminism is only concerned with its own plight, and doesnt actually care too much about the plight of those in other cultures and countries, despite their plight being more severe. As an example of this, there are a number of articles online that discuss how western feminism is quite ethnocentric, and doesnt give much consideration to the plight that ethnic minority women in these countries face.
Thus any feminism movement against islam is actually most likely to come from muslim countries, but feminism in the middle east has always been strongly clamped down and repressed.
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Western feminism tackles the issues that remain in western society. Some of it has become entitled and a bit too positive discriminatory for my liking but most feminists do seek equality in a system that favours men simply because men built the system.
The issues facing women in other parts of the world including the Middle East are a lot worse but it shouldn't be a reason to judge western feminists who have an entirely different situation. Any group fighting for equality should be applauded especially as they are actually doing something about it.
What we should be doing, instead of saying oh why aren't western feminists helping out all these poor women, is giving the women in these situations the tools and empowerment to start fighting their own battle themselves. (Acknowledged it is not that simple)
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Because modern day feminism is backed and supported by regressive leftists that completely have no problem offending the majority, with deluded false fake narratives like the wage-gap myth but will go silent when trying to offend minorities in real oppressive societies like in muslim majority countries where Women are really persecuted for just being women.
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It doesn't fit their narrative of oppressing cis white men.
It doesn't fit their narrative of oppressing cis white men.
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It doesn't fit their narrative of oppressing cis white men.
It doesn't fit their narrative of oppressing cis white men.
If feminists tried to attack muslim men, then they would have a sh*tstorm on their hands about white privilege and white oppression of the world (which is an argument they would not win).
Better to stay on a court where they can reach the hoop, so to speak.
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Well, anything that would ACTUALLY help women would be completely useless, I mean that non existent wage gap is far more important
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Well, anything that would ACTUALLY help women would be completely useless, I mean that non existent wage gap is far more important
Well, anything that would ACTUALLY help women would be completely useless, I mean that non existent wage gap is far more important
LMAO.
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Because Islamists are far more terrifying than Milo or Sargon of Akkad: http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2015/09...their-bravery/
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It's because a so called anti-discrimination group then can't go and attack another group that claims it is a victim of discrimination.
Basically feminism just picks easy targets that don't threaten to 'tar' it's public image. If feminist's actually targeted islam, or more specifically muslim men, it would start to highlight the western centric nature of the movement and many of its hypocrisies regarding it's current goals.
It would actually do the feminist movement good to target more realistic plights affecting women, but alas I doubt it will happen any time soon. Potentially it may happen after the feminist movement eventually looses legitimacy in the mainstream media.
Basically feminism just picks easy targets that don't threaten to 'tar' it's public image. If feminist's actually targeted islam, or more specifically muslim men, it would start to highlight the western centric nature of the movement and many of its hypocrisies regarding it's current goals.
It would actually do the feminist movement good to target more realistic plights affecting women, but alas I doubt it will happen any time soon. Potentially it may happen after the feminist movement eventually looses legitimacy in the mainstream media.
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I am sure we will be hearing a lot more from them over the next few years.
I am sure we will be hearing a lot more from them over the next few years.
Then they'll make a big noise.
Feminism right now is all about power, it's about how to make the right middle class women richer by running social "justice" organisations.
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This, wait for the rape numbers to sky rocket or the oppression of women to become reality, or when women are restricted from certain areas or certain bars.
Then they'll make a big noise.
Feminism right now is all about power, it's about how to make the right middle class women richer by running social "justice" organisations.
This, wait for the rape numbers to sky rocket or the oppression of women to become reality, or when women are restricted from certain areas or certain bars.
Then they'll make a big noise.
Feminism right now is all about power, it's about how to make the right middle class women richer by running social "justice" organisations.
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Well there was that news the other day about Swedish women being told to stay indoors. Maybe this is an opportunity for western feminism that has gone astray to have relevance again and make a difference in a wider situation?
Well there was that news the other day about Swedish women being told to stay indoors. Maybe this is an opportunity for western feminism that has gone astray to have relevance again and make a difference in a wider situation?
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Most individual feminists are anti-Islam, or at least against the bits of Islam that are bad for women. Indeed I have a friend who identifies triply an apostate, feminist and scientist: she is anti-Islam in the Quilliam mould, individualist, radical liberal, hyper-rationalist.
The reason feminist organisations don't speak out against Islam is because they are used to playing the dance of identity politics in order to get funding. They are slow to abandon "Muslims" as their allies in that. Especially seeing as Muslim organisations are all at least outwardly against radical Islam and Islamism.
The reason feminist organisations don't speak out against Islam is because they are used to playing the dance of identity politics in order to get funding. They are slow to abandon "Muslims" as their allies in that. Especially seeing as Muslim organisations are all at least outwardly against radical Islam and Islamism.
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