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    (Original post by MrsSheldonCooper)
    I have no problem with them doing it in a Muslim country.

    A Western country? Hell no. Pretty sure the British don't want people from the Middle ages in their universities.
    The event was not held in the university.
    Yes they are students of LSE
    but they'd organised this by themselves, and attended it by themselves.
    Its like any kind of societies/groups people join.
    If I joined the Bronies and went there dressed like rainbow-dash it would be my choice.
    That reasoning is not medieval.
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    (Original post by BhagwanNoBhool)
    Terrible argument, child abuse doesn't directly affect me either.
    No but my painting my face green doesn't affect you either.

    >It works sometimes<
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    I'm sure the SU must be loving this.
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    (Original post by MrsSheldonCooper)
    Gender segregation is illegal regardless of religion in the West.
    :rofl:
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    I just wonder what will be the reaction if a prominent LSE society decide to segregate based on race or religion... browns/muslims at the back, whites/Christians at the front...?

    Considering the actual event though, unfortunately the state doesn't have any jurisdiction or right on this matter if what I gather is right. It's held in a private place with private money (they raised their own money). However, it'd be interesting how much funding the soc gets from the university. Doesn't mean its right though and should be challenged, especially by Muslims who are against this.


    Although if Tim Hunt can get sacked, where the SJWs?
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    I just wonder what will be the reaction if a prominent LSE society decide to segregate based on race or religion... browns/muslims at the back, whites/Christians at the front...?

    Considering the actual event though, unfortunately the state doesn't have any jurisdiction or right on this matter if what I gather is right. It's held in a private place with private money (they raised their own money). However, it'd be interesting how much funding the soc gets from the university. Doesn't mean its right though and should be challenged, especially by Muslims who are against this.


    Although if Tim Hunt can get sacked, where the SJWs?
    I kind of agree.
    But I also want to make a point.
    Societies always have somewhat of a system separating the people.
    Usually it's not harmful, it's just the VIP get special access to special things. It's the way it works.
    However if I went to a far right rally (like KKK ****) and they segregated me for being someone of 'colour' I would have the choice of staying there, or just leave. Which I would definitely do.
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    Ok I still don't see the problem with a gender segregated event. For those that don't know, the screen is used to allow the women to take their headscarves off (they can wear whatever they want, bodycon dresses, short dresses etc) and enjoy themselves without worrying about creepy men staring at them or hitting on them when they want to enjoy. But gender segregation isnt a rule in Islam, men and women are obviously allowed to socialise but because there are restrictions e.g. they can't date around or dance with each other, it's a lot easier and more fun to have gender segregated events.

    And can I just say girls-only evens are so lit.
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    (Original post by NickLCFC)
    London School of Economics Islamic Society holds annual gender segregated dinner.

    "Muslim students from the London School of Economics had to buy separate tickets to the society's annual dinner depending on whether they were a 'brother' or a 'sister'. There was a large screen separating the men's tables from the women's ones, stopping the attendees from even looking at each other. "

    'It's been going on for quite a while,' one LSE undergraduate said. 'I don't think it's ever been brought to the university's attention."

    Should this be allowed?


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    (Original post by jgjog3)
    I kind of agree.
    But I also want to make a point.
    Societies always have somewhat of a system separating the people.
    Usually it's not harmful, it's just the VIP get special access to special things. It's the way it works.
    However if I went to a far right rally (like KKK ****) and they segregated me for being someone of 'colour' I would have the choice of staying there, or just leave. Which I would definitely do.
    That's a bad analogy... the President or a distinguished guests being able to sit at the front isn't equal to segregation based on race/gender or any group protected by human rights... unless you're suggesting all men are distinguished by default and all women aren't.

    And how are far right groups (like KKK) perceived in modern society? I tend to hold Muslims to a higher standard than the Klan.

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    (Original post by chemting)
    That's a bad analogy... the President or a distinguished guests being able to sit at the front isn't equal to segregation based on race/gender or any group protected by human rights... unless you're suggesting all men are distinguished by default and all women aren't.

    And how are far right groups (like KKK) perceived in modern society? I tend to hold Muslims to a higher standard than the Klan.

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    You're absolutely right.
    But what I'm saying is all gatherings have their own rules.
    Some make sense like presidents and leaders being VIP
    Some are *****y like the one in the article.
    If you don't like the place though, Just leave.?
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    (Original post by MrsSheldonCooper)
    It's happening at a university where there are going to be other people though. It's events like these which make universities a haven for people who plan to radicalise.
    Bit extreme dont you think? I mean, if it was a secretive event with a crazy imam then yeah but it does seem like 'radicalise' is a word thrown around too much.
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    (Original post by MrsSheldonCooper)
    Gender segregation is illegal regardless of religion in the West.
    I need to stop getting involved with these kinda threads but I can't help it...

    If I decide I want to have a meal out and only invite my female friends- for a 'girls' night' or something I dunno- then that's not illegal. Not in the UK or (as far as I'm aware) anywhere else. There are no laws on how people socialise.

    Agree that gender segregation is generally a pretty poor idea though. My personal experience of it was in an all girls school- not a faith school, but as far as religion was involved it was mostly Christian. I didn't like it, left and wouldn't send my child to a single sex school (or a single sex anything). Pretty weird atmosphere imo. Anyways...
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    (Original post by khaleesi98)
    I need to stop getting involved with these kinda threads but I can't help it...

    If I decide I want to have a meal out and only invite my female friends- for a 'girls' night' or something I dunno- then that's not illegal. Not in the UK or (as far as I'm aware) anywhere else. There are no laws on how people socialise.
    That's not even close to being the same thing.
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    (Original post by NickLCFC)
    London School of Economics Islamic Society holds annual gender segregated dinner.

    "Muslim students from the London School of Economics had to buy separate tickets to the society's annual dinner depending on whether they were a 'brother' or a 'sister'. There was a large screen separating the men's tables from the women's ones, stopping the attendees from even looking at each other. "

    'It's been going on for quite a while,' one LSE undergraduate said. 'I don't think it's ever been brought to the university's attention."

    Should this be allowed?


    The right to Freedom of religion in the United Kingdom is provided for in all three constituent legal systems, by devolved, national, European, and international law and treaty. I have yet to understand the reasoning behind this story rather being sensationalism and tabloid esque non-news spin stories that are made up to tarnish the image of Muslims. These Muslims have every right to do as they wish as long as they remain within the boundaries of laws of the land, and your argument seems to originate from prejudice and hatred rather than drawing an attention to an underhand illegal activity by muslims .
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    (Original post by ssoliman00)
    As i'm a Muslim myself, here's my answer.
    The 2 genders are segregated in a mosque so that they are avoided as much as possible to not get their minds drifted off thinking about the opposite sex (infront/beside them). But in this case, i don't see why they did it in this case as 1) they are not praying 2) its not haram/forbidden for males and females to have dinner together as long as they take inconsideration of their modesty etc.
    Therefore, in this case they should just eat together; what they did here was very unnecessary, as not only is it not mentioned as something you must do in my religion but it also gave us a bad and sexist image; and i think with the media, extremist govs (e.g saudi, iran) and islamaphobic, uneducated interpretations we already get enough of it these days. They should be showing the real-side of Islam with the ways and actions our prophets taught us, not what the media and saudi arabia teaches us. (and fun fact if these Muslims didn't know already, well if you lowered your gaze and controlled your hormones while treating the opposite sex wit respect, you'd most likely get a reward for it in the hereafter rather than just splitting each other up as if the other group is satanic or something)
    - Sorry, for the long post; but i'm trying as hard as i can to show people that my religion isn't what these people make it out to be; and that as a Muslim i also think what they are doing is wrong.
    Mate you literally just went and spoke your mind to make your own rules of the religion of Islam. No word of a lie, that is precisely what you have just done. You think that just because you are a muslim that you know all the rules? That's like me thinking I'm a Biologist when all I did was get a grade C at GCSE Double Science.

    The rules of Islam have been set and are rigid. If you want to share a rule and spread knowledge, give direct reference to a Quranic aayah or an authentic hadith.
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    If you don't know any verses of the Qur'aan or any authentic hadiths from the top of your head, maybe it's best to avoid giving islamic information to non muslims who probably know as much you do about Islam. Take care!
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    (Original post by shihaab33)
    The right to Freedom of religion in the United Kingdom is provided for in all three constituent legal systems, by devolved, national, European, and international law and treaty. I have yet to understand the reasoning behind this story rather being sensationalism and tabloid esque non-news spin stories that are made up to tarnish the image of Muslims. These Muslims have every right to do as they wish as long as they remain within the boundaries of laws of the land, and your argument seems to originate from prejudice and hatred rather than drawing an attention to an underhand illegal activity by muslims .
    Any evidence of this? I don't have any hatred for Muslims as individuals.
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    (Original post by GCSEstudentt)
    Ok I still don't see the problem with a gender segregated event. For those that don't know, the screen is used to allow the women to take their headscarves off (they can wear whatever they want, bodycon dresses, short dresses etc) and enjoy themselves without worrying about creepy men staring at them or hitting on them when they want to enjoy. But gender segregation isnt a rule in Islam, men and women are obviously allowed to socialise but because there are restrictions e.g. they can't date around or dance with each other, it's a lot easier and more fun to have gender segregated events.

    And can I just say girls-only evens are so lit.
    Lol, what on Earth do you mean gender segregation isn't a rule in Islam? It is 100% a fundamental rule in Islam. There are multiple Quranic verses and several authentic hadiths on gender segregation. Why are you spreading false information about Islam?
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    (Original post by shihaab33)
    The right to Freedom of religion in the United Kingdom is provided for in all three constituent legal systems, by devolved, national, European, and international law and treaty. I have yet to understand the reasoning behind this story rather being sensationalism and tabloid esque non-news spin stories that are made up to tarnish the image of Muslims. These Muslims have every right to do as they wish as long as they remain within the boundaries of laws of the land, and your argument seems to originate from prejudice and hatred rather than drawing an attention to an underhand illegal activity by muslims .
    Freedom of religion comes with the condition that you cannot break other rules. For eg honour killings are illegal despite of religion. Gender Segregation is banned at public events or events related to public/publicised funds (not sure on the specifics as I ain't a lawyer). So yes you're right, under the law they're fine and I defend their right to do it (although them getting funding from LSE is questionable but minor details). It is also legal for KKK (or any "Islamophobic" groups) to hold a race/religion segregated rally... are you in favour of that? If the media reports on that, is it "tarnishing" the image of white people? Freedom of religion or freedom of expression/civil liberties doesn't grant you immunisation from public reaction/scrutiny. Same goes KKK, they should be scrutinised despite having the right.
    Noone has the right to stop Muslims to hold this event, but we can criticise it.

    If its "freedom of religion", then is it Islam that's making them have gender segregation?

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    OMG they're having a gender segregated dinner. Unacceptable for a western country!
    Oh wait, I'm being forced to have segregated education for 7 years of my life at my grammar school
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    I don't really understand the fuss with these things tbh. If the society wants to do it, and the attendees are OK with it, I don't really see any issue.
 
 
 
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