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    Tattoo rule prevents potential RAF recruit from joining

    Worth a read to any wannabes out there, something else to consider when getting yourself inked.
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    (Original post by Drewski)
    Tattoo rule prevents potential RAF recruit from joining

    Worth a read to any wannabes out there, something else to consider when getting yourself inked.
    This makes it seem like you cant have one. Tattoos are allowed unless they are visible above the collar or beyond shirt sleeves. Also offensive ones too.
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    (Original post by IAmNero)
    This makes it seem like you cant have one. Tattoos are allowed unless they are visible above the collar or beyond shirt sleeves. Also offensive ones too.
    Read the article. It makes it clear that she was refused because hers are visible above the collar.

    As I said, it's something for people to think about if they're joining up or may want to in the future.
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    (Original post by Drewski)
    Read the article. It makes it clear that she was refused because hers are visible above the collar.

    As I said, it's something for people to think about if they're joining up or may want to in the future.
    I read that, but most people skim read, I was making it clear.
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    Starting a petition because the rules don't suit her? She'll go far in the armed forces :rolleyes:
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    Very little sympathy.
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    (Original post by Duncan2012)
    Starting a petition because the rules don't suit her? She'll go far in the armed forces :rolleyes:
    I know right

    "We want to be equal to men!"
    "Oh, we don't like a rule that everyone follows regardless of gender? Make it easier for us females!"

    I know she didn't say anything about gender but it just reminds me off the police fitness test things in america.
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    I know I'm an old dinosaur, but what made the UK military stand out from the rest of society was that self discipline,self respect and a smart bearing was built in.

    We now live in a very liberal society where anything and everything is accepted without blinking an eye. The received wisdom is that the Armed Forces should reflect the society we live in, but does that mean they should accommodate every desire of individuals just because it's their human right?

    I'm sure there's an argument that tattoos do no-one any harm and are just an expression of personality. That's one view, and if hidden by clothing, nothing wrong with it. It wouldn't be my choice, but I'll fight for anyone's right to express their individuality. But if service personnel have tattoos (or body piercings) on open display, I defy anyone serving to deny that it looks all wrong and gives out the message 'F**k you, I'll do what I want'. That may be acceptable in civvy street (and apparently is), but when you're dealing with weapons of war and split second life or death decisions, I want to trust the person next to me implicitly, not deal with his/her attitude. And yes, I have seen a 'young lady' (Flt Lt) who thought that a visible tattoo on her ankle was kool. Other less visible tatts gave an insight into the personal qualities of this commissioned officer. Definitely a party lady, but not very effective as a leader of men / women when the chips were down.

    I'm sure this army lady's colleagues are very proud of her individuality:

    http://www.gettyimages.co.uk/detail/...hoto/456145862
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    (Original post by Ikaruss)
    I know I'm an old dinosaur, but what made the UK military stand out from the rest of society was that self discipline,self respect and a smart bearing was built in.

    We now live in a very liberal society where anything and everything is accepted without blinking an eye. The received wisdom is that the Armed Forces should reflect the society we live in, but does that mean they should accommodate every desire of individuals just because it's their human right?

    I'm sure there's an argument that tattoos do no-one any harm and are just an expression of personality. That's one view, and if hidden by clothing, nothing wrong with it. It wouldn't be my choice, but I'll fight for anyone's right to express their individuality. But if service personnel have tattoos (or body piercings) on open display, I defy anyone serving to deny that it looks all wrong and gives out the message 'F**k you, I'll do what I want'. That may be acceptable in civvy street (and apparently is), but when you're dealing with weapons of war and split second life or death decisions, I want to trust the person next to me implicitly, not deal with his/her attitude. And yes, I have seen a 'young lady' (Flt Lt) who thought that a visible tattoo on her ankle was kool. Other less visible tatts gave an insight into the personal qualities of this commissioned officer. Definitely a party lady, but not very effective as a leader of men / women when the chips were down.

    I'm sure this army lady's colleagues are very proud of her individuality:

    http://www.gettyimages.co.uk/detail/...hoto/456145862
    I personally think that the regulations should be nothing below the knee/elbow or above the neck.

    That way even in short sleeves or with female personnel wearing skirts you can see any tattoos.
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    The rules are fine how they are, the progressive-left has absolutely no place in the military.
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    (Original post by Mahmoud X)
    The rules are fine how they are, the progressive-left has absolutely no place in the military.
    Two distinct issues here and they are not related. Tattoos are not the preserve of progressives or the political left. As for political leanings, of course there is a place for different political views in the military, regardless of skin or ink.
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    My opinion: recruits should never be overlooked because of ink on their skin. As the article said, they only wear their parade uniform once a year, so shouldn't covering it up for the occasion be considered?
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    (Original post by Smidge_midge)
    My opinion: recruits should never be overlooked because of ink on their skin. As the article said, they only wear their parade uniform once a year, so shouldn't covering it up for the occasion be considered?
    The whole point is that if they wear their parade uniform and the tattoo is still visible then that is not acceptable.
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    (Original post by Schleigg)
    The whole point is that if they wear their parade uniform and the tattoo is still visible then that is not acceptable.
    I'm saying they should have the chance to conceal it if it is visible.
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    (Original post by Smidge_midge)
    My opinion: recruits should never be overlooked because of ink on their skin. As the article said, they only wear their parade uniform once a year, so shouldn't covering it up for the occasion be considered?
    Some might wear it once a year, some might wear it much more regularly. I wouldn't trust that statement from her.

    (Original post by Mahmoud X)
    The rules are fine how they are, the progressive-left has absolutely no place in the military.
    It's worth noting that that's nonsense. The woman in question is openly homosexual and that's not remotely an issue. This isn't a left / right issue.
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    (Original post by Smidge_midge)
    I'm saying they should have the chance to conceal it if it is visible.
    How would they conceal it?

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    (Original post by Schleigg)
    How would they conceal it?
    Easily. There are plenty of products like Dermablend and tattoo camo that will conceal the tattoos so that they cannot be seen.
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    (Original post by Smidge_midge)
    Easily. There are plenty of products like Dermablend and tattoo camo that will conceal the tattoos so that they cannot be seen.
    They're not compatible with military life - you can't guarantee being able to get ahold of such products when in the field, when on exercise, when on ops, etc. That's the same reason people with long term, though not debilitating, medical issues are barred from service.
 
 
 
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