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    B941 - British Federalization, Devolution, Integration and Fair Electoral Bill 2016 (Second Reading), The Rt Hon. Aph MP
    British Federalization, Devolution, Integration and Fair Electoral Bill 2016

    A Bill to create a federal system of government in the United Kingdom, to integrate all British Overseas Territories into the United Kingdom Proper, to reduce the number of MP’s who sit in the House of Commons, to reduce the number of peers who sit in the House of Lords, and to provide powers to local government.

    BE IT ENACTED by The Queen's most Excellent Majesty, by and with the advice and consent of the Commons in this present Parliament assembled, in accordance with the provisions of the Parliament Acts 1911 and 1949, and by the authority of the same, as follows:-
    1: British Overseas Territories


    1) All Places listed under Schedule 1 of this Act shall be compelled to hold a referendum on the question of “Should ‘x’ become a fully-integrated member of the United Kingdom and take part in elections of that country”
    2) Upon a ‘yes’ vote the territory in question will be considered under the dominion of the United Kingdom government and all peoples who would normally be able to vote in the United Kingdom may now vote people into the parliament of the United Kingdom.
    3) Upon a ‘no’ vote the relationship between the United Kingdom and the territory in question shall remain the same.

    2: House Of Commons

    1) The Number of MP’s in the House of Commons shall be 550.
    2) MP’s shall be elected by the Sainte-Laguë Method of Proportional Representation in closed Party-Lists
    3) There shall be no threshold to reach before a party receives a seat.

    3: House of Lords

    1) The Number of Peers in the House of Lords shall be capped at 500
    2) There shall be no Lords Spiritual
    3) There shall be up to 500 Lord Academics who;
    .....a) Will be appointed for:
    ..........i) outstanding work in:
    ...............(1) Science,
    ...............(2) Medicine,
    ...............(3) Law,
    ...............(4) Humanitarian Aid
    ...............(5) Economics
    ..........ii) Being a British Citizen with a Nobel Prize, or;
    ..........iii) Being a Former Speaker of the House Of Commons or Prime Minister
    .....b) May Serve an indefinite Term
    .....c) Other than those Mentioned in 3) a) iii) of this section no former MP’s may be a member of the House Of Lords
    .....d) Will Be appointed by the Head of State with Advice from Members of the Privy Council


    4: Senate

    1) A senate made up of 105 elected senators will be created during the next General Election.
    2) Each state as defined in Schedule 2 of this Bill will elect 7 Senators to the Senate
    3) The senate will have all the same powers as The House of Commons and are entitled to vote on all matters.
    .....a) Including finance bills
    4) An item will pass the senate if it recives more 'Ayes' than 'Nays'
    5) The speakers for the House of Lords and House of Commons and their deputies will take it in turns to be speaker of the senate.
    6) The senate will be elected by a Single Transferable Vote system with each person having to give a preference to 7 people for that ballot to be valid.
    7) The Senate is to be located in Manchester.


    5: UK Parliament

    1) Parliament will have Authority over all area’s of governance except those reserved for states and Counties
    2) If conflicting laws are passed by Parliament and a State then Parliament is supreme.
    3) Schedule 4 territories will be under direct rule of Parliament.

    6: States

    1) The States of the United Kingdom shall be those defined under Schedule 2 of this Bill and Cover the Area Defined in Schedule 2 of this Bill
    2) In each State Capital there shall be an Administrative Chamber of the state.
    3) The State will be run by a Council of elected Officials who are entitled to sit in the Administrative Chamber of the State
    4) The council shall consist of:
    .....a) The Senators of the State
    .....b) Councillors elected using the Additional Member System of Voting,
    ..........i) There shall be an equal number Constituency Seats as Regional Seats.
    ..........ii) Each council will have 6 times as many councilors then counties
    ...............(1) Other than Gibraltar who will have 18 councilors
    ..........iii) The Regional Seats will cover the Counties as Defined in Schedule 3 of this bill.
    5) State Councils will have the Powers in the following areas:
    ..........a) The creation of new Counties within the State;
    ..........b) The number of Councillors in the State Council;
    ..........c) The Provision of State Courts;
    ..........d) The Provision of State Police and Fire Services;
    ..........e) The Provision of Education services, Inspection of Said services and, adding to the National Curriculum;
    ..........f) The Creation of State Laws;
    ..........g) The Provision of Airports;
    ..........h) The Provision of Boat Ports where appropriate;
    ..........i) The Provision of Trains and Roads exclusively within the state;
    ..........j) Strategic Planning;
    ..........k) Approval of Large-Scale Projects within the State;
    ..........l) Setting State Taxes;
    ..........m) Creation and maintenance of Public footpaths and rights of way;
    ..........n) Environmental protection;
    ..........o) Creation of State Parks;
    ..........p) State Borrowing;
    ..........q) Allocating Counties money from State Funds
    ..........r) The changing of the Election System used in their County Elections;
    ..........s) The creation and financing of State Benefits.
    6) A state may only run at most a Deficit of 3% of its GDP.
    .....a) Should a state need more money it is entitled to emergency funds at the discretion of the Chancellor of the Exchequer.

    7: Counties

    1) The Counties of the United Kingdom shall be those defined under Schedule 2 of this Bill as areas of the state, Unless;
    .....a) The State is also Listed under Schedule 3 in which case those listed under Schedule 3 shall be defined as the counties.
    2) Counties will be run by an Administrative center.
    3) Counties will be divided into 50 areas by the Electoral commission of the U.K. Where it is practical to do so for County elections.
    4) The Administrative Center of a county will consist of 50 delegates elected every 4 years.
    5) County Administrative Centers will have powers and Duties in the Following areas:
    .....a) Altering the number of Delegates in the County;
    .....b) The Provision of Waste management and Collection;
    .....c) The Provision of Social Housing;
    .....d) The Provision of Social Services;
    .....e) The Provision of Graveyards and Crematoria;
    .....f) Licensing in the County;
    .....g) The Provision of Busses;
    .....h)Granting Planning Permission;
    .....i) Maintainance of War memorials;
    .....j) Provision and Maintenance of Public Toilets;
    .....k) Provision and Maintenance of Public Clocks;
    .....l) Provision and Maintenance of Public recreation areas;
    .....m) Guardianship of all Common Land in the county;
    .....n) Provision and Maintenance of Street lighting;
    .....o)Provision and Maintenance of a regular water Supply to all peoples within their jurisdiction.
    6) For the Purposes of Gibraltar the State Council will run all Country Duties and function as the County

    8: Elections

    1) To be eligible to vote in a General Elections a person must:
    .....a) Be over the age of 18, and;
    .....b) Be a British citizen, or;
    .....c) Be an Irish citizen, or;
    .....d) Have been normally resident in the United Kingdom for 5 continuous years with no more than 28 days out of the country in any one year period.
    2) To be eligible to vote in a State Election a person must:
    .....a) Meet the requirements to vote in a General Election;
    .....b) Have been normally resident in the State for a continuous year, and;
    .....c) Meet any further requirements the state puts on voting in its elections.
    3) To be eligible to vote in a Council Election a person must:
    .....a) Be over the age of 16;
    .....b) Be normally resident in the county, and;
    .....c) Be a British Citizen, or;
    .....d) Be an Irish Citizen, or;
    .....d) Have been normally resident in the United Kingdom for 6 continuous months with no more than 14 days out of the country.

    9: Miscellaneous

    1) Laws Passed before the enactment of this bill on geographical areas will remain in force until their states repeal them.

    10: For the Purposes of the MHoC

    1) The elections in the house will not be changed.
    2) The passing of this bill will be considered a yes vote in the referendums.



    Schedule 1: List of British Overseas Territories
    1. The Isle of Man
    2. The Bailiwick of Guernsey
    3. The Bailiwick of Jersey
    4. Anguilla
    5. Bermuda
    6. British Virgin Islands
    7. Cayman Islands
    8. Falkland Islands
    9. Gibraltar
    10. Montserrat
    11. Pitcairn Islands
    12. Saint Helena, Ascension and Tristan da Cunha
    13. Turks and Caicos islands
    Schedule 2: List of States and their Areas.


    Bailiwick of Guernsey | Capital: Saint Peters Port
    • The Bailiwick of Guernsey
    Bailiwick of Jersey | Capital: Saint Helier
    • The Bailiwick of Jersey
    Bermuda | Capital: Hamilton
    • Bermuda
    Caribbean | Capital: Cockburn Town
    • Anguilla
    • British Virgin Islands
    • Montserrat
    • Turks and Caicos Islands
    Cayman Islands | Capital: George Town
    • Cayman Islands
    Central and West England | Capital: Birmingham
    • Bristol
    • Cornwall
    • Devon
    • Dorset
    • Gloucestershire
    • Summerset
    • Wiltshire
    • Herefordshire
    • Shropshire
    • Staffordshire
    • Warwickshire
    • West Midlands (county)
    • Worcestershire
    • Derbyshire
    • Leicestershire
    • Lincolnshire
    • Nottinghamshire
    Gibraltar | Capital: Gibraltar
    • Gibraltar
    Highlands and Islands | Capital: Inverness
    • Highland
    • Moray
    • Na h-Eileanan Siar
    • Orkney
    • Shetland
    • Aberdeen City
    • Aberdeenshire
    • Angus
    • Argyll and Bute
    • Dundee City
    • Perth and Kinross
    • Stirling
    Isle of Man | Capital: Douglas
    • Isle of Man
    Lowlands | Capital: Edinburgh
    • Dumfries and Galloway
    • East Ayrshire
    • North Ayrshire
    • Scottish Borders
    • South Ayrshire
    • South Lanarkshire
    • City of Edinburgh
    • Clackmannanshire
    • East Dunbartonshire
    • East Lothian
    • East Renfrewshire
    • Falkirk
    • Glasgow City
    • Inverclyde
    • Midlothian
    • North Lanarkshire
    • West Dunbartonshire
    • West Lothian
    Northern Ireland | Capital: Belfast
    • Armagh
    • Down
    • Fermanagh
    • Tyrone
    • Antrim
    • Derry/Londonderry
    North England | Capital: Manchester
    • Cheshire
    • East Riding of Yorkshire
    • North Yorkshire
    • South Yorkshire
    • West Yorkshire
    • Cumbria
    • Durham
    • Lancashire
    • Merseyside
    • Northumberland
    • Tyne and Wear
    Saint Helena and the Falklands | Capital: Jamestown
    • Saint Helena, Ascension and Tristan da Cunha
    • The Falkland Islands
    • South Georgia and the South Sandwich Islands
    South England | Capital: City of London
    • Berkshire
    • Greater London
    • East Sussex
    • Hampshire
    • Isle of Wight
    • Kent
    • Surrey
    • West Sussex
    • Bedfordshire
    • Buckinghamshire
    • Hertfordshire
    • Nottinghamshire
    • Oxfordshire
    • Cambridgeshire
    • Essex
    • Norfolk
    • Suffolk
    Wales | Capital: Cardiff
    • Carmarthenshire
    • Ceredigion
    • Pembrokeshire
    • Powys
    • Conwy
    • Denbighshire
    • Flintshire
    • Gwynedd
    • Isle of Anglesey
    • Wrexham
    • Blaenau
    • Bridgend
    • Caerphilly
    • Cardiff
    • Merthyr Tydfil
    • Monmouthshire
    • Neath Port Talbot
    • Newport
    • Rhondda
    • Swansea
    • Torfaen
    • Vale of Glamorgan
    Schedule 3: List of Counties by State


    Bailiwick of Guernsey
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    • Alderney
    • Sark, Herm and Jethou
    Bailiwick of Jersey
    • Grouville
    • Saint Brélade
    • Saint Clément
    • Saint Helier
    • Saint John
    • Saint Laurence
    • Saint Martin
    • Saint Mary
    • Saint Ouen
    • Saint Peter
    • Saint Saviour
    • Trinity
    Bermuda
    • Devonshire
    • Hamilton Parish
    • Paglet
    • Pembroke
    • Sandys
    • Smith’s
    • Southampton
    • St George’s Parish
    • Warwick
    Cayman Islands



    Isle of Man
    • Ayre
    • Garff
    • Glenfaba
    • Michael
    • Middle
    • Rushen
    Saint Helena and the Falklands


    North England
    • Cheshire
    • Craven
    • East Riding of Yorkshire
    • Hambleton
    • Harrogate
    • Richmondshire
    • Ryedale
    • Scarborough
    • Selby
    • South Yorkshire
    • West Yorkshire
    • York
    • Cumbria
    • Durham
    • Lancashire
    • Merseyside
    • Northumberland
    • Tyne and Wear
    • Bolton
    • Bury
    • Manchester
    • Oldham
    • Rochdale
    • Salford
    • Stockport
    • Tameside
    • Trafford
    • Wigan
    Central and West England
    • Nottinghamshire
    • South Gloucestershire
    • Isles of Silly
    Schedule 4: Direct rule Territories
    • British Indian Ocean Territory
    • Akrotiri and Dhekelia
    • British Antarctic Territory





    Notes

    This Bill aims to make the UK more stable by devolving power to individual areas so that governments can create a more targeted approach to issues.

    This Bill also Sets out the powers of each form of government and gives powers to states for creating laws, setting different taxes and benefits which allows the needs of individual communities to be protected more.

    This Bill also sets out to make the appointment of Lords Spiritual fair and not just appointing them based on centuries of tradition, whilst also limiting the numbers of the House of Lords and stopping it from being a retirement home for former MP’s.

    This bill also reduces the number of Tiers of government and creates a normalised hierarchical structure to government in the UK as opposed to the current system different levels of power to different regions.

    The reason for having 3 different houses is because each house has a different use.
    House of Commons: represents the political opinions of the entire nation.
    House of Lords: An academic house which seeks to advise the government and spot oversights in bills. Should be Apolitical in general.
    Senate: Represents the political whims of different States. This prevents the smaller and outlying states from being dominated by the larger states but still sets the boundary for passing legislation low enough such that legislation isn't impossible to pass.

    Changes for second reading



    Create procedure for bills to go through parliament
    Lay out senate bill making power.
    Change the number of senators per state?
    Roll caymans and bermuda/channel islands together?
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    Aph I'm afraid the bill title with 'Second Reading' on the end is longer than TSR will allow for a thread title so if you have some preferred abbreviation I will amend the thread title for you.
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    (Original post by RayApparently)
    Aph I'm afraid the bill title with 'Second Reading' on the end is longer than TSR will allow for a thread title so if you have some preferred abbreviation I will amend the thread title for you.
    Title is fine
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    No to PR (and the lack of restrictions on small parties)
    No to votes in council elections at 16
    No to senate
    No to these forced referendums on overseas territories

    No to quite a lot...

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    Not again! :angry:
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    Nay.

    If it aint broke don't fix it.
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1w_XuOBnUAg
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    I cannot support a nominated House of Lords, or one so large.

    So regardless of the rest of the Bill, still a nay from me.
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    On balance, I like this more but it's still not something I can support.

    Abstain, but RayApparently, I would like to nominate Aph for MotM next time it runs.
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    (Original post by EricAteYou)
    Nay.

    If it aint broke don't fix it.
    UK over seas territory's, nations which we foot the bill for their defence are generally tax havens (all of BOT are and so are at least the caymans) this means that we are defending nations which help tax evaders.

    Also I would argue the uk is broke. There are ever increasing divides between country's in the uk making the break up of the Union ever more likely. By creating a senate we stabilise the uk by making it clear that everyone gets an equal voice in the nation.
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    Nothing in the changes that I don't support so aye.
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    (Original post by TheDefiniteArticle)
    On balance, I like this more but it's still not something I can support.

    Abstain, but RayApparently, I would like to nominate Aph for MotM next time it runs.
    Oh yeahhhhh!

    Definitely going to give that another go soon.
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    Oh damn, this is a large bill. I'm tired at the moment, however I know I'll have fun getting onto this bill at a later stage.

    First things first though... federalization? Shouldn't it be federalisation?
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    Allowing 16 year olds to vote in council elections is a recipe for disaster imo. A lot of young adults are still very immature and irresponsible, but it's going to be far worse with 16 year olds. Giving more power to local councils seems like a good idea and could really help to lower crime rates/other issues in the seedier parts of Britain. It should also help to increase social mobility if councils are given more money and resources to invest in schools. I can't see why we need a senate as well as the houses of Lords and Commons though, or forced referendums on overseas territories. I'm going to have to say nay.
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    Like usual I will vote nay on any Aph Bill
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    (Original post by hazzer1998)
    Like usual I will vote nay on any Aph Bill
    I should hope you're not voting Nay because it's an Aph bill
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    (Original post by InfernoPlato)
    Oh damn, this is a large bill. I'm tired at the moment, however I know I'll have fun getting onto this bill at a later stage.

    First things first though... federalization? Shouldn't it be federalisation?
    No point in you reading it, just say no.
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    As you changed the capital of SE England from Guildford to the City of London, it would've an auto-nay if I was an MP
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    Jeez. I might've collected my thoughts better tomorrow

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    (Original post by EricAteYou)
    Nay.

    If it aint broke don't fix it.
    Quite conservative coming from a Labourite

    I jest of course.
 
 
 
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