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    (Original post by Prince_Paul_246)
    Where did whites get the knowledge, the science, the knowhow to create GPS ? to create Aeroplanes ?

    Where do you think whites got that ?

    Do you seriously think they just woke up one day and thought "Hey !! Let's create an Aeroplane"

    Where did the knowledge come from ? Where did Einstein get his knowledge from ?

    Who was white people's Teacher ?
    The Wright brothers, who were you know, white.

    Stop trying
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    (Original post by Prince_Paul_246)
    Where did whites get the knowledge, the science, the knowhow to create GPS ? to create Aeroplanes ?

    Where do you think whites got that ?

    Do you seriously think they just woke up one day and thought "Hey !! Let's create an Aeroplane"

    Where did the knowledge come from ?

    Who was there Teacher ?
    Well in the case of Einstein and relativity you're quite right, he had some help from studying Maxwell and another white European called Minkowski, granted he also built on the work of another white European called Euclid and the non-Euclidean geometry of another white European called Bernhard Riemann. Most of modern physics was based on a dismissal of previous generations (rejecting core theories of Newton and Euclid) so it's very possible to just wake up one day and say 'actually we should screw our teacher because they clearly got it all wrong'
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    (Original post by mightybis0n)
    The Wright brothers, who were you know, white.

    Stop trying
    If you want to take in all of human history, that is the 100 thousand years modern man has been on the planet, not just the last 300 years where Northern white Europeans have got their act together and not just the bit we live in, then the Egyptians are by far the most inventive.

    They invented stuff like, oh, civilization. They have been on top for 40% of human history, more than twice as long as whites. A good fraction of what we think of as “Greek” is Egyptian. Egypt is African. In the past it was much blacker than it is now.

    And it was not just the lower classes either: they found the skull of Cleopatra’s sister: she was black.

    Back in Roman times Ceasar thought the British were naturally lacking in intelligence. By your line of reasoning not only would he be right – Britain was a backwards corner of the world then (and remained so for over a thousand years) – but you would have said it was in their genes. Which means the British Empire – and America as we know it – would have never been.
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    (Original post by richpanda)
    Let's be honest here, if you don't believe in free speech you are fascist.

    And I don't mean you saying "I believe in free speech but...". You either have FULL free speech or you don't. It's sad that England is like this.
    No, you're not. Arguably you're an authoritarian, although questioning what exactly free speech is or qualifying that it isn't okay to shout "fire" in a crowded shopping centre when there isn't one or falsely claim you were raped just because of your free speech certainly doesn't make you one. But fascism is an ideology with many, many more points to it the the oppression of free speech.
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    (Original post by whorace)
    Well in the case of Einstein and relativity you're quite right, he had some help from studying Maxwell and another white European called Minkowski, granted he also built on the work of another white European called Euclid and the non-Euclidean geometry of another white European called Bernhard Riemann. Most of modern physics was based on a dismissal of previous generations (rejecting core theories of Newton and Euclid) so it's very possible to just wake up one day and say 'actually we should screw our teacher because they clearly got it all wrong'
    Black people were the original inventors of the disciplines that helped bring the world into the technological age.

    Mathematics, physics, astronomy, building in stone and bricks, metallurgy and all the root subjects that were necessary to push the world into today's modern age, were begun by Blacks in Egypt, Nubia-Kush, Mesopotamia, Sabea and Black Naga India.

    Therefore, even if people of European origins have made improvements in ancient technologies and ancient inventions, such as rocketry, computer technology, aerodynamics and others.

    The basic mathematical formulas and ancient prototypes were invented by Africans as well to be fair the Chinese.

    For example, the Africans invented the binary system which is still used in the Yoruba oracle and was copied by German scientists and applied to computer programming.

    Many ancient formulas in trigonometry, calculus and physics as well as chemistry (Khem mysteries) came from the scientific discoveries of Blacks in Egypt and Nubia-Kush.
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    (Original post by Prince_Paul_246)
    Black people were the original inventors of the disciplines that helped bring the world into the technological age.

    Mathematics, physics, astronomy, building in stone and bricks, metallurgy and all the root subjects that were necessary to push the world into today's modern age, were begun by Blacks in Egypt, Nubia-Kush, Mesopotamia, Sabea and Black Naga India.

    Therefore, even if people of European origins have made improvements in ancient technologies and ancient inventions, such as rocketry, computer technology, aerodynamics and others.

    The basic mathematical formulas and ancient prototypes were invented by Africans as well to be fair the Chinese.

    For example, the Africans invented the binary system which is still used in the Yoruba oracle and was copied by German scientists and applied to computer programming.

    Many ancient formulas in trigonometry, calculus and physics as well as chemistry (Khem mysteries) came from the scientific discoveries of Blacks in Egypt and Nubia-Kush.
    You don't seem to understand that not all scientific theories had a basis in the past, many had very little understanding of Africa until the late twentieth century, and the binary system was based on work in Germany in the seventeenth century by Leibniz and later developed by Babbage and many others. Your argument is the equivalent of saying Africans breathed at one point therefore they developed complex theories using mathematics to combat air pollution (hint they didn't). Most modern mathematics is not based on primitive theories of physics but built from the very rejection of these notions, it wasn't until the West rejected Aristotle that Newtonian conceptions became well used.
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    Thats lucky actually in some countries free speech is completely banned, we should count ourselves lucky
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    (Original post by whorace)
    You don't seem to understand that not all scientific theories had a basis in the past, many had very little understanding of Africa until the late twentieth century, and the binary system was based on work in Germany in the seventeenth century by Leibniz and later developed by Babbage and many others. Your argument is the equivilient of saying Africans breathed at one point therefore they developed complex theories using mathematics to combat air pollution (hint they didn't). Most modern mathematics is not based on primitive theories of physics but built from the very rejection of these notions, it wasn't until the West rejected Aristotle that Newtonian conceptions became well used.
    It depends on what books you read. Remember if you want to practice racism, especially the racism that was around in the 17th and 18th century then you need a propaganda campaign

    Do you really white writers in the 17th century when black people were slaves are gonna give credit to black people for anything ? Of course they are going to give the credit to white guy (Lebniz)

    First off - The most important inventions have come from Africa take for example agriculture and metallurgy.

    They were both developed, independently in West Africa. Humans spent 10s of thousands of years as hunter gatherers before somebody figured out that if you plant seeds in the ground, irrigate and take care of them, you can settle in one area and not have to wander about looking for food.

    Seems pretty axiomatic since someone already told you that, but if nobody explained it to you, you’d have no idea how it works.

    Agriculture and Iron smelting were 2 of the most important things man ever discovered because they create a foundation for so many other things

    Indian inventions included toilet, bathroom, drainage, plastic surgery, cataract surgery, early form of chess.

    Chinese inventions included trebuchet, gunpowder, compass, suspension bridge, rotary fan, paper, printing press,

    Egyptian inventions ? (Where do I begin ?) Included metal block printing, fountain pen, astrolabic quadrant, hand cannon, explosive, sciences, maths, chemistry, government and an emphasis of the kind of tools used in architecture.

    Black Moorish inventions included street lighting, talc, libaries, police force. Middle Eastern inventions included various lamps, pharmacy and various astronomical, optical and medical instruments. Pinhole camera, magnifying lens and inhalation anaesthetic.

    All that knowledge was passed down to whites.

    I know you will not dispute this. You will dismiss it. You choose which facts you wishes to believe in. Debating with people like you is like farting in a windstorm.

    Why don’t you just come out and say it white man…whites created the planet Earth and every planet in our solar system. SHEESH.
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    (Original post by Prince_Paul_246)
    If you want to take in all of human history, that is the 100 thousand years modern man has been on the planet, not just the last 300 years where Northern white Europeans have got their act together and not just the bit we live in, then the Egyptians are by far the most inventive.

    They invented stuff like, oh, civilization. They have been on top for 40% of human history, more than twice as long as whites. A good fraction of what we think of as “Greek” is Egyptian. Egypt is African. In the past it was much blacker than it is now.

    And it was not just the lower classes either: they found the skull of Cleopatra’s sister: she was black.

    Back in Roman times Ceasar thought the British were naturally lacking in intelligence. By your line of reasoning not only would he be right – Britain was a backwards corner of the world then (and remained so for over a thousand years) – but you would have said it was in their genes. Which means the British Empire – and America as we know it – would have never been.
    >300 years

    Whites have been inventing, creating and exploring for far longer than that.

    And 'civilization' (which is subjective anyway) was refined by the Greeks to the point that it influences many aspects of modern life in white countries. Their culture, philosophy, literature, art and creativity is still around and is still phenomenal. Where is the surviving works of the Egyptians? Yes, much of what they did was great, but to simply say 'it influenced the Greeks' doesn't carry much.

    Yes, it was in their genes. Celtic culture was nowhere near as advanced, sophisticated or civilized as the Roman Empire. The thousand years point is nonsense btw, Britain was largely celtic for a long time true, but we have had so many different white cultures (eg. Danes, Normans, Romans) amalgamate here that many didn't stay Celtic for long.

    Can you name me a single predominantly black country/civilization today that is on the same level as Northern Europe/US?
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    (Original post by Prince_Paul_246)
    Why don’t you just come out and say it white man…whites created the planet Earth and every planet in our solar system. SHEESH.
    Ok I will. White Europeans and Americans are responsible for almost all advances in the last three centuries, which is basically why our world looks the way it does today (with railways, roads, ships, aeroplanes, automobiles, weapons, energy infrastructure, housing, agricultural methods, vaccines) almost exclusively due to Western science, to be fair Asians have contributed a lot since WW2. The rest of the world has made minor or wrong contributions.
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    (Original post by ikhan94)
    Thats lucky actually in some countries free speech is completely banned, we should count ourselves lucky
    And what makes you think if we go down this road it won't get banned in the future? How long will you keep shouting "count ourselves lucky"? Until we become Turkey, or KSA?

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    (Original post by Prince_Paul_246)
    It depends on what books you read. Remember if you want to practice racism, especially the racism that was around in the 17th and 18th century then you need a propaganda campaign

    Do you really white writers in the 17th century when black people were slaves are gonna give credit to black people for anything ? Of course they are going to give the credit to white guy (Lebniz)

    First off - The most important inventions have come from Africa take for example agriculture and metallurgy.

    They were both developed, independently in West Africa. Humans spent 10s of thousands of years as hunter gatherers before somebody figured out that if you plant seeds in the ground, irrigate and take care of them, you can settle in one area and not have to wander about looking for food.

    Seems pretty axiomatic since someone already told you that, but if nobody explained it to you, you’d have no idea how it works.

    Agriculture and Iron smelting were 2 of the most important things man ever discovered because they create a foundation for so many other things

    Indian inventions included toilet, bathroom, drainage, plastic surgery, cataract surgery, early form of chess.

    Chinese inventions included trebuchet, gunpowder, compass, suspension bridge, rotary fan, paper, printing press,

    Egyptian inventions ? (Where do I begin ?) Included metal block printing, fountain pen, astrolabic quadrant, hand cannon, explosive, sciences, maths, chemistry, government and an emphasis of the kind of tools used in architecture.

    Black Moorish inventions included street lighting, talc, libaries, police force. Middle Eastern inventions included various lamps, pharmacy and various astronomical, optical and medical instruments. Pinhole camera, magnifying lens and inhalation anaesthetic.

    All that knowledge was passed down to whites.

    I know you will not dispute this. You will dismiss it. You choose which facts you wishes to believe in. Debating with people like you is like farting in a windstorm.

    Why don’t you just come out and say it white man…whites created the planet Earth and every planet in our solar system. SHEESH.
    Were the pyramids secretly spaceships as well?

    we wuz kaaaangz
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    (Original post by whorace)
    Ok I will. White Europeans and Americans are responsible for almost all advances in the last three centuries, which is basically why our world looks the way it does today (with railways, roads, ships, aeroplanes, automobiles, weapons, energy infrastructure, housing, agricultural methods, vaccines) almost exclusively due to Western science.
    You're argument is like that of a student, who pass his exams but gives no credit to his teacher who personally taught him
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    (Original post by Prince_Paul_246)
    You're argument is like that of a student, who pass his exams but gives no credit to his teacher who personally taught him
    I'll ask again, can you name me a single predominantly black country/civilization today that is on the same level as Northern Europe/US?
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    (Original post by mightybis0n)
    >300 years

    Whites have been inventing, creating and exploring for far longer than that.
    It is not about who invents, but who gets the ownership and claims it for oneself. It's about who gets the patent first. US and UK companies and business people have done it for ages. They see an idea, invention, something which is common somewhere else, go back home, patent it and claim the rights. After that they become the inventors and OWNERS of the said product, no matter how many centuries it has been used by other people in their culture.

    You know that at that time the English men 400 years back bathed perhaps once or twice a year, right ? Never mind that Africans had have their perfumes for centuries by thenand washed almost daily were ever water was available.

    You do know that in 1700′s absolute majorityof the white Europeans could not read or write ?

    You do know that there were massive famines inEurope in 1800′s ?

    You do know that it was only in 1800′s thatthe white Europeans realised that it could be a good idea to wash hands beforehelping at child birth or surgical operations or at all ?.

    (Original post by mightybis0n)
    And 'civilization' (which is subjective anyway) was refined by the Greeks to the point that it influences many aspects of modern life in white countries. Their culture, philosophy, literature, art and creativity is still around and is still phenomenal. Where is the surviving works of the Egyptians? Yes, much of what they did was great, but to simply say 'it influenced the Greeks' doesn't carry much.
    The books you read come from a Eurocentric point of view then you argue from the Eurocentric point as fact

    Whites have the delusional idea that Greece was the 1st European/White civilization. They also claim that Egypt contributed absolutely nothing to the creation of the Greek Civilization. And if that isn’t enough, they turn around and claim Egypt as their creation as well.

    Now Egypt is thousands and thousands of years older than Greece. Therefore, if Greece was the 1st European/White Civilization, to claim Egypt as a European/White Civilization one would have to be stupid enough to believe that the child(Greece)gave birth to the parent(Egypt).

    Also, by documenting ancient recorded dates of the Egyptian GREAT YR, which is just under 26,000 yrs in length, it has been established that the Egyptian Civilization is at least 50,000yrs old, which coinsides with Manetho’s claim. That would make Egypt older than the White race. Furthermore, no one has explained how Europeans/Whites could have created advanced civilizations like Greece and Egypt when they had no known

    1-anticedents,
    2-trail and error period,
    3-evidence of a written language or culture,
    4-recorded history,
    5-architectural achievement,
    6-mathmatical system, including the zero,
    7-organized government or society
    8-agricultural achievement
    9-religious awareness or concept of God
    10-awareness of anything associated with being civilized,
    11-educational system
    12-evidence of having knowledge or use on anything other than stone impliments,

    At the time these civilizations were created. We’re supposed to accept the EUROCENTRIC BS that has them miraculously walking en mass out of their caves in Asia(Europe is not a continent)and creating an advanced civilization like Greece. Then we’re supposed to be even dumber by believing they then migrated into Africa and created an even more advanced Egyptian Civilization that’s older than they, or before their so called 1st civilization ever existed.

    Yeah right.

    (Original post by mightybis0n)
    Can you name me a single predominantly black country/civilization today that is on the same level as Northern Europe/US?
    Before I answer that explain to me what civilization is first.
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    (Original post by TaintedLight)
    For some people Freedom of Speech is synonymous to freedom to say stupid things. And that's an issue.

    Abusing and insulting demographics, creates a toxic environment which leads to a civil unrest. It's a good initiative from the government to clamp down on such morons.

    Like in my house, for example, racist statements, insulting my girlfriend (imaginary), and suggestions that Donald Trump will be the best president the US ever had will get you ridiculed or thrown out.

    Moaning you weren't afforded your freedom to be stupid won't earn you my sympathy. My pragmatic selection of inviting (and throwing out) people ensures the quality of discussion remains high quality and respectful in The House.
    Who is one to decide what is 'stupid' and what isn't? People on the other side of the political spectrum, or with different beliefs in general, may consider your words to be stupid and offensive. Regardless, people have the right to be stupid. People have the right to voice their opinions. People should have the right to offend. What is and isn't 'harmful' or 'offensive' can be so subjective and open to interpretation that to dogmatically legislate what is and isn't is too often impractical and unfair.

    Short of libel and direct incitement of violence, people should be able to say and express whatever they damn well please. The world is not your house; it's everyone's, and everyone should get to voice their opinions.

    To keep high quality discussion, we need to maintain an open, democratic, and free 'marketplace of ideas'. The arrogance in the belief that one's own views are so superior, that no-one with opinions to the contrary should get speak in our supposedly free society, is utterly contemptuous.
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    (Original post by mightybis0n)
    I should have the freedom to hate whatever I want. Rice, people, canoeing, certain animals. As long as I dont act on that hate is the key thing.
    You do have that freedom, speech is an action. You can think what you want.
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    (Original post by Dinasaurus)
    You do have that freedom, speech is an action. You can think what you want.
    I can talk about my hates as well. And I don't mean yelling profanities at gays or ethnic minorities.
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    (Original post by mightybis0n)
    I can talk about my hates as well. And I don't mean yelling profanities at gays or ethnic minorities.
    Give an example of something like that which is currently not allowed that you wish was?
 
 
 
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