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    (Original post by AlbertXY)
    So you think that imaginary beams are relevant to Einstein explanation and the actual truth of observed evidence is irrelevant?
    It is a thought experiment. It is like shcrodinger's cat. There wasn't actually a cat, it gets the idea across.
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    (Original post by Kyx)
    AlbertXY
    What do you think occurs?
    A decrease in the rate of thermodynamics.
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    (Original post by AlbertXY)
    You think a student is a troll for questioning the integrity of the knowledge been presented to him?

    He thinks you are a troll due to the fact that you do not seem to accept the evidence before you
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    (Original post by AlbertXY)
    A decrease in the rate of thermodynamics.
    Do you know what that means?
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    (Original post by Kyx)
    It is a thought experiment. It is like shcrodinger's cat. There wasn't actually a cat, it gets the idea across.

    Exactly , imagination is not real, we do not observe beams of light we observe a quanta whole, light is dimensionless propagating through space.
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    (Original post by AlbertXY)
    You think a student is a troll for questioning the integrity of the knowledge been presented to him?
    You should read the original translation of relativity by einstein: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Relativity-S...rds=relativity. Very logical and easy to understand and basically proves it in a matter of a couple of pages.
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    (Original post by AlbertXY)
    Exactly , imagination is not real, we do not observe beams of light we observe a quanta whole, light is dimensionless propagating through space.
    The fact is beams of light ARE possible, and we are using one for the purpose of this experiment
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    (Original post by AlbertXY)
    You think a student is a troll for questioning the integrity of the knowledge been presented to him?
    You're not just 'questionng the integrity of the knowledge presented' though, are you? You're trying to convince everyone that what you're saying is correct, being rude and obnoxious when people disagree, failing to explain yourself clearly and, perhaps most irritatingly, talking authoritatively about things when you self-confessedly don't actually know what you are saying! k=0, anyone?

    Given that most of this thread is you trying to 'explain' things to others, the student analogy works rather more effectively against you than for you!
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    ****ing hell this is painful to read...

    The grammar is awful and most of it is either wrong or doesn't make sense.

    Except your point that a caesium atom is not time. You seem to be onto something remarkable there.
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    (Original post by Alexion)
    ****ing hell this is painful to read...

    The grammar is awful and most of it is either wrong or doesn't make sense.

    Except your point that a caesium atom is not time. You seem to be onto something remarkable there.
    :rofl:
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    (Original post by Kyx)
    Do you know what that means?
    Yes of course I do, between two bodies is a rate of exchange, this rate is constant, (gravity) , and the entropy of E swaps from one body to an other depending of equilibrium state of the body, an object in an inertia accelerating reference frame is under the constant force of gravity at rest mass equal to rest mass and newtons of force. The rate of the Caesium atom is the rate of exchange of entropy, something that gains loses to retain equilibrium, what you mistake for a time dilation is a timing dilation , by accelerating the clock you are effectively de-accelerating the inertia accelerated reference frame extraction of entropy.
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    (Original post by Kyx)
    :rofl:

    The Caesium atom has no relationship to time, quite ironic really.
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    (Original post by AlbertXY)
    Yes of course I do, between two bodies is a rate of exchange, this rate is constant, (gravity) , and the entropy of E swaps from one body to an other depending of equilibrium state of the body, an object in an inertia accelerating reference frame is under the constant force of gravity at rest mass equal to rest mass and newtons of force. The rate of the Caesium atom is the rate of exchange of entropy, something that gains loses to retain equilibrium, what you mistake for a time dilation is a timing dilation , by accelerating the clock you are effectively de-accelerating the inertia accelerated reference frame extraction of entropy.
    Firstly, do you agree with the point I made earlier? About the light appearing to move diagonally?

    And do you also agree that the speed of light is the same for EVERY observer?
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    (Original post by AlbertXY)
    The Caesium atom has no relationship to time, quite ironic really.
    I never said it did
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    (Original post by Kyx)
    He thinks you are a troll due to the fact that you do not seem to accept the evidence before you
    Accept or forced discipline?


    I am pointing out errors, please show where the errors are not errors?
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    (Original post by AlbertXY)
    Accept or forced discipline?


    I am pointing out errors, please show where the errors are not errors?
    Everything said by me, or spartan
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    (Original post by Kyx)
    I never said it did
    I never said you did, so ironically the main piece of evidence for time dilation is not even related to time. So apparently it is of the imagination and there is not an actual time dilation of any degree.

    Simultaneity is apparently imagination with no fact.
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    (Original post by Kyx)
    Everything said by me, or spartan
    You have only quoted back present information which I have deemed in error, pointed out the errors.


    Please point out where my explanation of error is wrong in any sense?
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    (Original post by AlbertXY)
    I never said you did, so ironically the main piece of evidence for time dilation is not even related to time. So apparently it is of the imagination and there is not an actual time dilation of any degree.

    Simultaneity is apparently imagination with no fact.
    You never answered this:

    (Original post by Kyx)
    Firstly, do you agree with the point I made earlier? About the light appearing to move diagonally?

    And do you also agree that the speed of light is the same for EVERY observer?
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    Time dilation exists. Stop pretending it doesn't.
 
 
 
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