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    (Original post by loveleest)
    wow, your ignorance is disturbing me.
    They are unarmed, scrolling down in the middle of the streets and then a police shoots them and you are trying to justify that?
    Even if they are criminals, they shouldn't have been shot, I don't believe in the death penalty.

    You are clearly a racist so I have no idea why I am continuing a conversation with you.
    How is that racist? Race isn't mentioned.
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    (Original post by joecphillips)
    How is that racist? Race isn't mentioned.
    He is trying to justify shooting a 12 year old unarmed black boy.
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    (Original post by wdkmwd)
    You have to be a complete dullard to think that Turkey and Lebanon's main cities are "generally peaceful and stable"

    I could right now pull out articles that provide lists of terrorist attacks in both these "generally peaceful cities"


    Infact i will.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...cks_in_Lebanon

    https://www.worldnomads.com/travel-s...rism-in-turkey



    "generally peaceful cities"


    Yeah right
    I specified two cities, not the countries as a whole and not their history. It's not my fault that you cannot tell the difference between a city and a country. That's like saying that New York is not a peaceful and stable city because of all the mass shootings in America.
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    I think white privilege definitely exists, especially in Western societies, because white people are nearly never excluded, murdered, or treated badly, (etc, etc) because of the mere fact that they are white. I don't think anyone can deny that racism exists. White people are privileged by seldom being the target of racism.
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    (Original post by WBZ144)
    I specified two cities, not the countries as a whole and not their history. It's not my fault that you cannot tell the difference between a city and a country. That's like saying that New York is not a peaceful and stable city because of all the mass shootings in America.


    A simple Ctrl + F on the Lebanon article will point you out to ver 30 attacks in Beirut alone.


    The "generally peaceful city" you were ignorantly praising.
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    Is it not majority privilege as opposed to White privilege? Can't see many White Zimbabweans thinking they're particularly privileged.
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    (Original post by Mathemagicien)
    Fair enough; its usual to want to discuss differing opinions in order to get a better understanding - but I respect you backing out, rather than drawing/getting drawn into a long discussion. TSR is full of people too willing to take disagreements to dozens of pages.

    I do wonder though why you respond to others and not me?
    Yeah, I know but I think it has to be a agree to disagree. I didn't respond merely because I am already with 3 other arguments with guys who disagree with me and I didn't want you to be the 4th one.

    I didn't agree with what you said, but I couldn't be bothered to explain...
    That's the simplest way I can put it.
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    Even if we obliterated "White Privilege" out the face of the earth, there will still be other kinds of "Privileges" that we would need to destroy before life could be considered as fair.

    Let's use a straight white male with good grades, a black lesbian with better grades and a white male employer.

    First we destroy white privilege, the white male still might get employed over the black female due to male privilege. Now, we destroy male privilege, the white male may still get employed over the black female due to their sexual preference.

    What I'm trying to say is, if one type of privilege has to be destroyed, then all other forms of privileges must be as well. You can't say that one privilege is bring you down while denying the others that are bringing you up.


    Do I be sole white privilege exists? Yes, but that's mainly due to people's preferences and assumptions on life.
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    I think it exists but probably more in the US than here


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    (Original post by loveleest)
    I was talking about white privilege in regrades to white policeman shooting down unarmed blacks for no reason... I don't know why you felt it was necessary to type all of that.
    Tamir Rice? The officers in question were told a youth had a gun - An airsoft replica that lacked the orange stripe to identify it as a fake - And that the youth was pointing the gun at people.

    It was tragic, and terrible and that poor kid didn't deserve it. However...

    Take a step back for a moment and think of the police officers who are shooting people in the US(Not in Canada, by the way). Then, look at the number of police killed each year.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...e_line_of_duty

    Over a hundred and fifty officers died in 2015. A very significant number of them by being shot or run down by vehicles when they stopped to give someone a ticket.

    How many innocents did they kill? More than 150? Because every time it happens there's a riot and I don't remember 150 riots in the US.

    Crime in predominantly black communities - Violence, too - Would you say that it is higher or lower than the national average?

    And if higher, do you think it might be statistically significant?

    And how do you think these communities feel about police officers in general?

    If you were wandering in to a community with violence similar to many of the places where these shootings take place, and these communities felt the same way about you that these communities feel about police officers, would you feel more or less at ease and how would you feel about protecting yourself?
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    (Original post by loveleest)
    He is trying to justify shooting a 12 year old unarmed black boy.


    First of all, I'm actually a black person myself.

    Second of all, I already told you that I didn't support the killing but the child should've listened to the officers when they told him to drop the gun and get on the ground.


    I love how black people scream racist as soon as an argument isn't going their way.


    I wonder how dumb you feel now, knowing that I'm black.
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    (Original post by wdkmwd)
    I'm not supporting the murder of the little kid, but why would a 12 year old kid be playing with a toy gun?

    And why didn't he listen to the officers when they told him to drop the weapon and get on the floor.

    How were the officers supposed to tell the difference?
    Non of what you said can justify the killing of a 12 year old. If they were, indeed, worried that he had a real gun then they should have aimed for the legs. Did they do that? No. They shot with the intention of killing the boy. And that is wrong.

    (Original post by wdkmwd)
    Just because a person is unarmed doesn't mean they aren't criminals you moron.

    Do you even know basic law?

    If a person shoots another person and tosses his weapon into the gutters and he's later killed by police would you say the killing was unjustified because he was unarmed?
    Again, how does this justify killing a person? If they don't have a gun then why shoot? And if you do feel as though they are a danger (despite not having a gun) then why shoot to kill?
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    (Original post by WBZ144)
    I said Ankara, not Turkey as a whole. You should be able to tell the difference.
    You're trying to convey the idea that Turkey is somehow equal to France in terms of the liklihood of terrorism.

    It's like taking some small town in the UK and comparing it to a small town in Syria which hasn't been affected by the war - whilst both towns have had no terror incidents, it doesn't hide the fact that one country is more dangerous than the other.
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    (Original post by cosmicstarbeast)
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    Agreed, but by far the biggest privilege is the wealth of your parents. That is the root cause of most white people being advantaged - their parents are wealthier, and have a more nurturing environment, pushing them more to education and jobs.
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    (Original post by wdkmwd)
    So Madam where was the coverage and massive up-roar when Bryce williams a BLACK man, shot and killed 2 white innocent news reporters in an act he claimed would spark a race war?


    Why didn't the media cover the story?

    Where they afraid about the fact that liberals only care about gun violence when a black person is killed by a white person?
    Was Bryce Williams a policeman abusing his authority? And there certainly was coverage which I remember very clearly from last year. This is more of a Dylan Roof incident that a Tamir Rice. What has that got to do with officers murdering an innocent child?
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    (Original post by NeoconZionist)
    You're trying to convey the idea that Turkey is somehow equal to France in terms of the liklihood of terrorism.

    It's like taking some small town in the UK and comparing it to a small town in Syria which hasn't been affected by the war - whilst both towns have had no terror incidents, it doesn't hide the fact that one country is more dangerous than the other.



    Hahahaha.



    Her ignorance made me cringe so hard.
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    (Original post by wdkmwd)
    First of all, I'm actually a black person myself.

    Second of all, I already told you that I didn't support the killing but the child should've listened to the officers when they told him to drop the gun and get on the ground.


    I love how black people scream racist as soon as an argument isn't going their way.


    I wonder how dumb you feel now, knowing that I'm black.
    lmao, yuck. I hope you are not black.
    I really hope you are not otherwise you are a ****ing disgrace to every single black person in the world and right now I feel deeply ashamed and embarrassed for you

    The child didn't need to do anything. He was a ****ing little boy how do you not get that into your ****ing head. The police are older than him and they should have dealt with the problems more safely.
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    (Original post by loveleest)
    He is trying to justify shooting a 12 year old unarmed black boy.
    He is justifying the killing of unarmed people in general, he isn't limiting his argument strictly to 12 year old black boys he is talking about people in general.
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    (Original post by WBZ144)
    Was Bryce Williams a policeman abusing his authority? And there certainly was coverage which I remember very clearly from last year. This is more of a Dylan Roof incident that a Tamir Rice. What has that got to do with officers murdering an innocent child?


    Maybe we should then talk about the innocent sheriff that was murdered by black thugs during the uprising.


    I guess his killing was reasonably justified because he was a white officer right?
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    (Original post by joecphillips)
    He is justifying the killing of unarmed people in general, he isn't limiting his argument strictly to 12 year old black boys he is talking about people in general.
    killing unarmed people is wrong full stop and he said that The boy should have just put the gun down. - It sounds like he is supporting the policemen. Do you not know how problematic that is?
 
 
 
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