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Do you think guns should be legal in the UK after a background check ? watch

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    No. Why not? Look at America.
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    (Original post by cranbrook_aspie)
    Yes. People who live in cities perhaps don't realise this, but out here in the countryside, if a violent thug breaks into my home and I call the police, it will be half an hour before they arrive due to the simple logistics of getting them here. The thug has plenty of time to kill or seriously injure me and my family, cause serious damage, steal our valuables and get away. Obviously it goes without saying that not all types of gun should become legal and an extensive background and circumstances check should be conducted before the granting of a gun license, together with perhaps an annual mental health assessment by a psychiatrist for all gun licenseholders, to prevent another Dunblane, but it's not fair that I shouldn't be able to defend myself because background and health check laws weren't stringent enough and so some whackjob committed a massacre.
    Get a crossbow if it bothers you that much.
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    (Original post by 41b)
    Every male member of the household should be conscripted or sent to social services, like in Germany. Then, after those who graduate from the army have a family, they should be required to own and maintain an assault rifle for the defence of their household and community.

    Further, defence laws need to be changed so that maiming and killing in self-defence and defence of property are not punishable.

    However the UK has the opposite mentality. I think if or when mass civil unrest happens, people will start thinking very differently.
    Conscripted? We're not in 1940s Britain sending teenagers off to war.
    Men should be allowed their own freewill, not made to go in the army.
    Murder is always going to happen, it's inevitable.
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    (Original post by 41b)
    Ban: knives, cars, baseball bat, chairs, hammers, hands, feet, football and rugby boots, men in general, glass, china, ladles, alcohol, any other drugs which can be overdosed on, windows, stairs..
    Do we need to add guns to that list?

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    If everyone owned a gun, no whackjob would ever succeed in massacring people.
    Yes, that logic totally works in the US, doesn't it?
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    I'm not anti gun but honestly I don't think we need them here
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    (Original post by Legendary Quest)
    Do we need to add guns to that list?



    Yes, that logic totally works in the US, doesn't it?
    Well look at switzerland. I know the population is much smaller but majority of the population have a gun and dont hear of mass shootings often there.
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    Definitely. Totally different to the US model which is frankly absurd.
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    The UK is happy to be gun free!
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    (Original post by CountMonteCristo)
    No to get a gun you need a licence now. I'm talking about an american style
    :nah:
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    (Original post by 41b)
    If everyone owned a gun, no whackjob would ever succeed in massacring people.
    because that worked for the US, didn't it :facepalm2:

    let's give all the schoolkids guns too
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    (Original post by 41b)
    Ban: knives, cars, baseball bat, chairs, hammers, hands, feet, football and rugby boots, men in general, glass, china, ladles, alcohol, any other drugs which can be overdosed on, windows, stairs..
    Oh yeah, all specifically designed for killing, my mistake
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    What would be the point of this?
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    (Original post by CountMonteCristo)
    Well look at switzerland. I know the population is much smaller but majority of the population have a gun and dont hear of mass shootings often there.
    Well yes, but then let's compare the state and culture of Switzerland to the UK. There is undeniably more civil unrest and ''displeasure'' with everyday life in the UK than in Switzerland and just because in one country the ownership of guns has panned out fine, does not mean it will do so in others (prime example; America).

    RE Main question - no, not at all. There is absolutely no need to own a gun in Britain.
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    (Original post by 41b)
    If everyone owned a gun, no whackjob would ever succeed in massacring people.
    Well first everyone would need to carry said gun around and then people would probably require training with said weapons and finally massacres using bombs and other similar methods of destruction would remain possible.

    Also it would come with a large spike in suicides and fatal outcomes of domestic suicide.
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    (Original post by Alexion)
    because that worked for the US, didn't it :facepalm2:

    let's give all the schoolkids guns too
    Almost all massacres have happened in gun free zones.

    One of the world's best gun-free zones: Paris.

    That worked out splendidly.
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    (Original post by 41b)
    Almost all massacres have happened in gun free zones.

    One of the world's best gun-free zones: Paris.

    That worked out splendidly.
    Oh, so if random, untrained pedestrians had guns that would have stopped a trained gunman from killing anyone, and definitely not resulted in more death :yep:
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    (Original post by CountMonteCristo)
    Well look at switzerland. I know the population is much smaller but majority of the population have a gun and dont hear of mass shootings often there.
    Do you really think that it would be the same in Britain?
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    (Original post by 41b)
    Almost all massacres have happened in gun free zones.

    One of the world's best gun-free zones: Paris.

    That worked out splendidly.
    Who's to say it wouldn't have happened sooner (or more frequently) had it been easier to obtain guns?
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    (Original post by 41b)
    Ban: knives, cars, baseball bat, chairs, hammers, hands, feet, football and rugby boots, men in general, glass, china, ladles, alcohol, any other drugs which can be overdosed on, windows, stairs..
    None of those are nearly as easy to kill someone with as a gun, and most of them have some other function besides killing people, whereas a gun does not.
 
 
 
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