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    (Original post by Youngman2012)
    Why are Chemical Engineers paid so well? Oil industry?
    Yes.

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    (Original post by Princepieman)
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    Don't all us of Engineers have equal chances of entering Oil though? Or do they have some sort of advantage? Surely our starting salaries should be similar.
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    (Original post by Youngman2012)
    Don't all us of Engineers have equal chances of entering Oil though? Or do they have some sort of advantage? Surely our starting salaries should be similar.
    You have to think about it a bit more. Chem Engineers tend to skew higher because more of them than average go into O&G. If you applied for an electrical engineering, structural engineering or a 'what have you' engineering job in an oil and gas company you'd receive similar compensation as a chemical engineer going into say, process engineering.

    Salaries fluctuate depending on which company, role, location and industry one chooses to go into.

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    (Original post by Princepieman)
    You have to think about it a bit more. Chem Engineers tend to skew higher because more of them than average go into O&G. If you applied for an electrical engineering, structural engineering or a 'what have you' engineering job in an oil and gas company you'd receive similar compensation as a chemical engineer going into say, process engineering.

    Salaries fluctuate depending on which company, role, location and industry one chooses to go into.

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    Thanks, so as a Mech Eng I will be paid just as well in oil. I still wonder how more of them end up in that industry the lucky guys.
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    (Original post by Youngman2012)
    Thanks, so as a Mech Eng I will be paid just as well in oil. I still wonder how more of them end up in that industry the lucky guys.
    Because, more of them apply and are interested in O&G. As a mech eng you have the automotive industry, the manufacturing industry, consumer products etc to choose from - although not paying as much, can be a bit more fulfilling.

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    (Original post by Princepieman)
    Because, more of them apply and are interested in O&G. As a mech eng you have the automotive industry, the manufacturing industry, consumer products etc to choose from - although not paying as much, can be a bit more fulfilling.

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    Surely, they have consumer products,manufacturing,pharma,fo od/drink,water,nuclear and energy?
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    (Original post by Youngman2012)
    Surely, they have consumer products,manufacturing,pharma,fo od/drink,water,nuclear and energy?
    Yeah, they do. But, even then, chem engineers gravitate rewards oil and gas/bigpharma on average.

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    (Original post by Princepieman)
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    Mechanical engineering is also equally useful for oil industry. These two degrees are relevant for different areas within the industry. (I asked my bro who is a consultant completions engineer MEng) Salary suggested is quite modest ie £30K. Would depend on employer. I think my bro started on £48K basic and that was quite a few years ago now.
    He has just pointed out to me that the current situ may have impacted negatively on starting salaries but rarely will two people start on the same pay. Throughout his career he knows for certain that his colleagues have all been on different salaries even if qualifications and experiences are similar. He once got 'burned' when he discovered a girl was paid more than him. Lol!
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    (Original post by jneill)
    Very very very rarely.

    They want to employ good people, not "good" universities.
    ARM take 75% of their graduate intake from So'ton along because they know that the quality of the graduates they produce is above the rest.

    Granted, I should have rephrased, it's more that major employers know which unis produce graduates with the best knowledge and skills.
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    (Original post by Alexion)
    ARM take 75% of their graduate intake from So'ton along because they know that the quality of the graduates they produce is above the rest.
    Interesting. But it may also be because they have invested in a significant joint venture with the university. Perfectly justifiable for them to try to get a reasonable return on that investment.

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    Interesting. But it may also be because they have invested in a significant joint venture with the university. Perfectly justifiable for them to try to get a reasonable return on that investment.

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    (Original post by Princepieman)
    You have to think about it a bit more. Chem Engineers tend to skew higher because more of them than average go into O&G. If you applied for an electrical engineering, structural engineering or a 'what have you' engineering job in an oil and gas company you'd receive similar compensation as a chemical engineer going into say, process engineering.

    Salaries fluctuate depending on which company, role, location and industry one chooses to go into.

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    Be careful with what you say since most of it is incorrect and gibberish
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    (Original post by GeologyMaths)
    Be careful with what you say since most of it is incorrect and gibberish
    Would be nice if you pointed out where I'm speaking gibberish rather than respond with what I classify as 'gibberish'.

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    Would be nice if you pointed out where I'm speaking gibberish rather than respond with what I classify as 'gibberish'.

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    The whole rationale behind your O&G knowledge
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    (Original post by GeologyMaths)
    The whole rationale behind your O&G knowledge
    What you mean my process engineer dad that worked in it for all of his career, my friends' parents that are still currently in the industry and my friends that are following the same path as their O&G parents? Seems legit.

    Still waiting for you to be constructive, but I guess this wait will be a while.

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    (Original post by applicant3345)
    What tips do you have on getting a first class degree and securing an internship during your studies?
    Getting and internship - Network. Use LinkedIn, go to lectures organised by professional societies, talk to people at those lectures, get involvee with the local graduates and students committee of your course's accrediting body (BCS, ICE, IMechE, IET, whatever).

    If you are studying at a top 20 university, applying for internships online might work, but if not, making yourself known gives you much higher chances. This comes from personal experience.


    Getting a first class degree - More studying, and more time dedicated to relaxing, less time drinking and partying. If you are a very smart person who physiologically can have energy on not so much sleep, can handle lots of alcohol or are able to memorise a lot of stuff in a short period of time before exams and take advantage of group work with hard working people, then by all means, do whatever you want. (I will probably get some hate for this)

    Having a first doesn't mean you are smart though. It means you know how and when to study. Ask me questions from the modules that I didn't enjoy during my bachelor's and I don't know how to answer them, even if I finished with a first. Again, this comes from personal experience.
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    Getting and internship - Network. Use LinkedIn, go to lectures organised by professional societies, talk to people at those lectures, get involvee with the local graduates and students committee of your course's accrediting body (BCS, ICE, IMechE, IET, whatever).

    If you are studying at a top 20 university, applying for internships online might work, but if not, making yourself known gives you much higher chances. This comes from personal experience.

    just on the internship point, if you are not applying online how am are we supposed to be applying ? Do you mean finding local companies and emailing them CV's ?
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    Getting and internship - Network. Use LinkedIn, go to lectures organised by professional societies, talk to people at those lectures, get involvee with the local graduates and students committee of your course's accrediting body (BCS, ICE, IMechE, IET, whatever).

    If you are studying at a top 20 university, applying for internships online might work, but if not, making yourself known gives you much higher chances. This comes from personal experience.


    Getting a first class degree - More studying, and more time dedicated to relaxing, less time drinking and partying. If you are a very smart person who physiologically can have energy on not so much sleep, can handle lots of alcohol or are able to memorise a lot of stuff in a short period of time before exams and take advantage of group work with hard working people, then by all means, do whatever you want. (I will probably get some hate for this)

    Having a first doesn't mean you are smart though. It means you know how and when to study. Ask me questions from the modules that I didn't enjoy during my bachelor's and I don't know how to answer them, even if I finished with a first. Again, this comes from personal experience.
    What do you mean by studying a top 20 university, applying fo internships online might work? There are equal chances once you get to the online test??
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    (Original post by Princepieman)
    What you mean my process engineer dad that worked in it for all of his career, my friends' parents that are still currently in the industry and my friends that are following the same path as their O&G parents? Seems legit.

    Still waiting for you to be constructive, but I guess this wait will be a while.

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    Norway - one of the biggest oil nations around - are also laying off hundreds and hundreds of people within O&G every year now. In my opinion, you would be extremely short-sighted to purposely want to enter the O&G industry now.

    With regards to what university you go to; it matters to the extent that more companies might be going to your university or purposely putting up job ads on their career services website. Every little helps and all that. It's not the be-all-end-all if you don't go to Cambridge. At the end of the day, engineering firms want to employ good people with good work ethics, who can come up with good engineering solutions.
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    (Original post by ahpadt)
    Norway - one of the biggest oil nations around - are also laying off hundreds and hundreds of people within O&G every year now. In my opinion, you would be extremely short-sighted to purposely want to enter the O&G industry now.
    True. But my friends in the downstream industry in Texas had no issues getting jobs at BP/Chevron upon graduating etc. Although, yes, with current oil prices it might be a bit of a hard sell to go into the industry. Especially as here in Aberdeen jobs are being cut right, left and centre.

    We'll have to see how it plays out.

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