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    SNP(Nicola Sturgeon)
    30.00%
    Labour(Kezia Dugdale)
    5.00%
    Conservative(Ruth Davidson)
    37.50%
    Liberal Democrats(Willie Rennie#)
    5.00%
    Greens(Patrick Harvie)
    7.50%
    UKIP(David Coburn)
    12.50%
    Other
    2.50%

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    (Original post by tengentoppa)
    This bullheaded partisan stance is sad to see. People should vote on the policies and vision of the party at that moment in time, not vote based on tribal allegiance.
    they the party whos policies are the best for the country, between the eternal cut meisters and the corbyn plebs who bankrupted the country, they are the sensible party who offer real policies.
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    (Original post by deta18dy)
    they the party whos policies are the best for the country, between the eternal cut meisters and the corbyn plebs who bankrupted the country, they are the sensible party who offer real policies.
    If that's your reason for them now then fair enough.

    But to say you'll always vote for them implied a come what may attitude, which would be ridiculous given how parties and circumstances change
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    (Original post by Oliver_94)
    I really wish Scotland just had the balls to vote for independence so they can all **** off instead of being the annoying little kid in the UK. No one wants them in this union, they are useless
    :lol: kind of true tbh
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    (Original post by deta18dy)
    they the party whos policies are the best for the country, between the eternal cut meisters and the corbyn plebs who bankrupted the country, they are the sensible party who offer real policies.
    SNP "policy" would have bankrupted the country all for the sake of petty nationalism. But it's worth pointing out that, excluding independence, SNP policy is essentially "keep everything the same as it was circa the mid-2000s".
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    (Original post by Smack)
    SNP "policy" would have bankrupted the country all for the sake of petty nationalism. But it's worth pointing out that, excluding independence, SNP policy is essentially "keep everything the same as it was circa the mid-2000s".
    Yes because until april 2016 the Scottish parliament has been limited to health, education and council tax.
    1- NHS has had its budget increased theres more nurses on the wards we even have a super-hospital
    2- in education the snp have implemented the curriculum for excellence in every school
    3- council tax - frozen for the last 10 years and will be abolished this year

    hardly sticking to the status quo now is it?
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    (Original post by deta18dy)
    Yes because until april 2016 the Scottish parliament has been limited to health, education and council tax.
    1- NHS has had its budget increased theres more nurses on the wards we even have a super-hospital
    2- in education the snp have implemented the curriculum for excellence in every school
    3- council tax - frozen for the last 10 years and will be abolished this year

    hardly sticking to the status quo now is it?
    Very minor changes after many years of, quite frankly, mediocre premiership.

    It will be interesting to see how much of the new powers the SNP will use. But, with power comes responsibility, something the SNP shy away from like a vampire from sunlight.
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    (Original post by deta18dy)
    Yes because until april 2016 the Scottish parliament has been limited to health, education and council tax.
    1- NHS has had its budget increased theres more nurses on the wards we even have a super-hospital
    2- in education the snp have implemented the curriculum for excellence in every school
    3- council tax - frozen for the last 10 years and will be abolished this year

    hardly sticking to the status quo now is it?
    The Scottish Government has not been limited in that sense. From its outset, it has had major powers over policing, justice, the environment, social services, housing, skills and training, sport, economic development, virtually all parts of transport policy... the list is fairly endless.

    Anyway, in answer to the points--

    1. The Scottish Government has not increased NHS spending at the same rate as the Conservatives have in England. In some years, it cut the NHS budget in real terms in Scotland - while it grew in real terms every year in England. (IFS report here)

    2. And have seen a decline in literacy and numeracy at all stages in school (2014 Scottish Survey of Literacy and Numeracy).

    3. There's been a council tax freeze in England too. Changing the rates in some bands as the SNP are proposing is also not "abolishing" it. The downside to this, of course, has been that local authorities have experienced huge levels of cuts to services they administer.
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    (Original post by ChaoticButterfly)
    If you are a Scottish voter who was voting SNP because labour were "red tories" still votes SNP now that Labour have elected Corbyn you are a bloody traitor.
    It was always about identity and a kind of fake nationalism that defined the Scots in opposition to the "evil right-wing English" not about actualy socialism.
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    I live in Dundee for uni and I know that it will be a SNP majority here and that scares me.
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    I don't get why the SNP can use the English as scapegoats and get away with it but if UKIP do it to the European Union it's called racism?
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    they'll be voting for the scottish national party because it has the word "scottish" in its name, aka "not england/UK"
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    (Original post by Airmed)
    I live in Dundee for uni and I know that it will be a SNP majority here and that scares me.
    UUP supporters of scared of everything xD
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    (Original post by trustmeimlying1)
    UUP supporters of scared of everything xD
    I'm a nationalist.
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    (Original post by Airmed)
    I'm a nationalist.
    dont be so scared then.
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    (Original post by similarBlank)
    I don't get why the SNP can use the English as scapegoats and get away with it but if UKIP do it to the European Union it's called racism?
    Because of the purpose of the "term" racism is to destroy real European nationalism. The SNP aren't real European nationalists.
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    (Original post by trustmeimlying1)
    dont be so scared then.
    The SNP are far too left wing for me. They have also broken their promise of holding off having another independence referendum: originally the 2014 one was a 'opportunity for a generation' but now Nicola wants to hold another one asap. I am for independence of countries but not when it is rushed out and at the expense of bashing another country (ie England, even though I hate Cameron and the Tories).
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    (Original post by Airmed)
    The SNP are far too left wing for me. They have also broken their promise of holding off having another independence referendum: originally the 2014 one was a 'opportunity for a generation' but now Nicola wants to hold another one asap. I am for independence of countries but not when it is rushed out and at the expense of bashing another country (ie England, even though I hate Cameron and the Tories).
    The UK is a country and is (if we put aside the issue of the EU) independent.
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    (Original post by L i b)
    The UK is a country and is (if we put aside the issue of the EU) independent.
    But we obviously have communities within Scotland, N.Ireland and Wales who wish to be independent from the UK as a whole.
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    (Original post by Airmed)
    The SNP are far too left wing for me. They have also broken their promise of holding off having another independence referendum: originally the 2014 one was a 'opportunity for a generation' but now Nicola wants to hold another one asap. I am for independence of countries but not when it is rushed out and at the expense of bashing another country (ie England, even though I hate Cameron and the Tories).
    honestly they should suit themselves and this is their opportunity. I can't blame them. I hope they stay in the union though.

    and extremes are a bad thing.

    run for the tories Airmed. yeh seem to know your stuff.
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    (Original post by trustmeimlying1)
    honestly they should suit themselves and this is their opportunity. I can't blame them. I hope they stay in the union though.

    and extremes are a bad thing.

    run for the tories Airmed. yeh seem to know your stuff.
    Me as a Tory? :laugh: I couldn't!
 
 
 
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