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    The fact is that anyone can say they are at university on here. Even people with a post history that suggests they are at uni/graduated may end up posting the PS online or sending it to someone they know who could plagiarise it.

    Also, you have no idea whether the advice would be good, as they will not have looked at PSs before and may have a bad idea for what a PS should contain and read like (yes, even if you've had offers or been at university for a couple of years)

    I used to be a PS helper on this site, back when TSR had a free private review service, and I never suggest to people to send their PSs to me

    There is good advice linked in my signature that can pick up most of the main issues to avoid, without sending a PS to someone
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    (Original post by *Interrobang*)
    The fact is that anyone can say they are at university on here. Even people with a post history that suggests they are at uni/graduated may end up posting the PS online or sending it to someone they know who could plagiarise it.

    Also, you have no idea whether the advice would be good, as they will not have looked at PSs before and may have a bad idea for what a PS should contain and read like (yes, even if you've had offers or been at university for a couple of years)

    I used to be a PS helper on this site, back when TSR had a free private review service, and I never suggest to people to send their PSs to me

    There is good advice linked in my signature that can pick up most of the main issues to avoid, without sending a PS to someone
    How many people post others ps's online? the OP made the point that someone could plaigarise it but shes only had 24hrs to write it and its for a specialised angle. law wanting to develop into politics. that cnat be very common.

    Its easy to read something and offer suggestions, then the OP cna use common sense as to whether it strikes a chord with her. Its a shame she didnt have lnger and we could have discussed it in open forum. I think its people who had done or were doing law is what she wanted.
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    (Original post by 999tigger)
    How many people post others ps's online?
    Unfortunately, for the victim of such an action, one is too many.
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    (Original post by Paktriot)
    Guys, I can't even go above 2000 characters. Is that okay?
    You need 3500+ really.
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    (Original post by Good bloke)
    Unfortunately, for the victim of such an action, one is too many.
    Why would she have been a victim? it would have been changed after being updated. It had to be handed in by 9. people should drive because they might be in an accident...
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    (Original post by 999tigger)
    Why would she have been a victim? it would have been changed after being updated. It had to be handed in by 9. people should drive because they might be in an accident...
    Why should people drive to be in an accident?
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    (Original post by Thomb)
    Why should people drive to be in an accident?
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    (Original post by 999tigger)
    n't
    no one forced you to say should instead of shouldn't.
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    (Original post by 999tigger)
    How many people post others ps's online? the OP made the point that someone could plaigarise it but shes only had 24hrs to write it and its for a specialised angle. law wanting to develop into politics. that cnat be very common.

    Its easy to read something and offer suggestions, then the OP cna use common sense as to whether it strikes a chord with her. Its a shame she didnt have lnger and we could have discussed it in open forum. I think its people who had done or were doing law is what she wanted.
    As goodbloke said, it only takes one person. And it doesn't have to be sent to UCAS to be highlighted. Hypothetically, I could have the PS sent to me and then post it on TSR or somewhere else on the web and it would be highlighted for plagiarism.

    Back in the main application cycle, there was an announcement on TSR saying not to post your PS on the site or send it to anyone, so it's what TSR suggests as well
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    (Original post by *Interrobang*)
    As goodbloke said, it only takes one person. And it doesn't have to be sent to UCAS to be highlighted. Hypothetically, I could have the PS sent to me and then post it on TSR or somewhere else on the web and it would be highlighted for plagiarism.

    Back in the main application cycle, there was an announcement on TSR saying not to post your PS on the site or send it to anyone, so it's what TSR suggests as well
    Except the OP would have the cover of having sent the updated different version in before anyone could post anything. that would be different. She would also have her own version that would predate any copy posted online. You cna plaigarise your own work.

    As you seem to have expertise in this area how many times have people been reported for plaigarising others PS via TSR? Is it common?

    As you will see once you made a post saying there was a rule i withdrew my offer. ots a shame she didnt have longer as its possible to give advice through discussion,
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    (Original post by 999tigger)
    Except the OP would have the cover of having sent the updated different version in before anyone could post anything. that would be different. She would also have her own version that would predate any copy posted online. You cna plaigarise your own work.

    As you seem to have expertise in this area how many times have people been reported for plaigarising others PS via TSR? Is it common?

    As you will see once you made a post saying there was a rule i withdrew my offer. ots a shame she didnt have longer as its possible to give advice through discussion,
    You can plagiarise your own work for UCAS, but generally that is only relevant if someone applied in a previous cycle. I don't know UCAS's policy when something has been posted online - they may not go as far as to see who posted what first, or the universities might not take that into consideration.

    As for how many people have had issues, I don't know, but the number is probably reduced because people like me post to tell people not to send their PS to anyone as soon as we see posts like that

    It is possible to give advice through discussion (that's why we have this forum after all) but it needs to be generic and not focused on editing parts of a PS
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    (Original post by *Interrobang*)
    You can plagiarise your own work for UCAS, but generally that is only relevant if someone applied in a previous cycle. I don't know UCAS's policy when something has been posted online - they may not go as far as to see who posted what first, or the universities might not take that into consideration.

    As for how many people have had issues, I don't know, but the number is probably reduced because people like me post to tell people not to send their PS to anyone as soon as we see posts like that

    It is possible to give advice through discussion (that's why we have this forum after all) but it needs to be generic and not focused on editing parts of a PS
    plagiarizeˈpleɪdʒərʌɪz/verbverb: plagiarize; 3rd person present: plagiarizes; past tense: plagiarized; past participle: plagiarized; gerund or present participle: plagiarizing; verb: plagiarise; 3rd person present: plagiarises; past tense: plagiarised; past participle: plagiarised; gerund or present participle: plagiarising
    1. take (the work or an idea of someone else) and pass it off as one's own.

    Dont think you can plaigarise your own work, even from a previous app. its still yours.
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    (Original post by 999tigger)
    plagiarizeˈpleɪdʒərʌɪz/verbverb: plagiarize; 3rd person present: plagiarizes; past tense: plagiarized; past participle: plagiarized; gerund or present participle: plagiarizing; verb: plagiarise; 3rd person present: plagiarises; past tense: plagiarised; past participle: plagiarised; gerund or present participle: plagiarising
    1. take (the work or an idea of someone else) and pass it off as one's own.

    Dont think you can plaigarise your own work, even from a previous app. its still yours.
    You can when it comes to university things more generally: http://en.writecheck.com/self-plagiarism/ for example
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    (Original post by *Interrobang*)
    You can when it comes to university things more generally: http://en.writecheck.com/self-plagiarism/ for example
    None of those examples would apply to a ps for UCAS. That guidance is for the US and for the punlication of scientific papers.

    Do you have some guidance on UCAS ps self plaigarism? ironically if you are reapplying then that fact would indicate your ps was unsuccessful in the first place, so there would be limited incentive to reuse.
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    (Original post by 999tigger)
    None of those examples would apply to a ps for UCAS. That guidance is for the US and for the punlication of scientific papers.

    Do you have some guidance on UCAS ps self plaigarism? ironically if you are reapplying then that fact would indicate your ps was unsuccessful in the first place, so there would be limited incentive to reuse.
    I know that self-plagiarism isn't an issue with PSs, but the bit I was unsure was about how much UCAS investigate if they find something online. Linking a PS to a previous application cycle is straightforward, but potentially proving that what was posted on a public site is your own work is not as easy to investigate, or not even considered by UCAS. Plagiarism doesn't stop your application being sent to unis, but unis are notified and can choose whether or not to consider the application. It's not something I've been personally made aware of, so I can't comment, but it best to just avoid full stop
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    (Original post by *Interrobang*)
    I know that self-plagiarism isn't an issue with PSs, but the bit I was unsure was about how much UCAS investigate if they find something online. Linking a PS to a previous application cycle is straightforward, but potentially proving that what was posted on a public site is your own work is not as easy to investigate, or not even considered by UCAS. Plagiarism doesn't stop your application being sent to unis, but unis are notified and can choose whether or not to consider the application. It's not something I've been personally made aware of, so I can't comment, but it best to just avoid full stop
    Think its easy to prove it orginated from you, especially in the context of the OP and her circumstances. If UCAS notify unis they suspect soemthing has been pliagarised, does that mean they do that without notifying or giving the candidate a chance to respond?
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    (Original post by 999tigger)
    None of those examples would apply to a ps for UCAS. That guidance is for the US and for the punlication of scientific papers.

    Do you have some guidance on UCAS ps self plaigarism? ironically if you are reapplying then that fact would indicate your ps was unsuccessful in the first place, so there would be limited incentive to reuse.
    I pretty much re-used my ps word for word and was fine (only changed 1 para of 5, rest was identical). It makes no sense to penalise "self-plaigarism".
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    (Original post by 999tigger)
    Think its easy to prove it orginated from you, especially in the context of the OP and her circumstances. If UCAS notify unis they suspect soemthing has been pliagarised, does that mean they do that without notifying or giving the candidate a chance to respond?
    They do notify the applicant and they do investigate, but I don't know how much they involve the applicant in that situation

    Regardless, it's still better to be safe than sorry.
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    I just cant see how UCAS get to say anyything to the candidate, except this flashed up can you explain?

    Yes its my application and heres the date i wrote it. here are the oriignals and drafts along with the dates.

    Ok thanks for clearing that up.

    If you can show me some UCAS rules on self plaigarising procedure and sanctions, then that would be a better context.
 
 
 
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