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    (Original post by Ascend)
    You haven't answered my question.

    Would you still support his "equal rights and freedom of speech" had he been a Muslim? You... yahwehist reactionary righty :dontknow:.


    I do support any form of free speech. Even though i COMPLETELY disagree with Islam.

    I am however opposed to facist and tyrannical means of asserting a point. Like banning people from shopping centres or arresting people for speaking their mind.


    You need to stop reading books filled with socialist propaganda, you imperialistic Bolshevik liberal.
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    (Original post by Ascend)
    You haven't answered my question.

    Would you still support his "equal rights and freedom of speech" had he been a Muslim? You... yahwehist reactionary righty :dontknow:.
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    (Original post by wdkmwd)
    Peaceful and tolerance means banning a Christian for his beliefs?


    What happened to equal rights and freedom of speech you cultural Marxist?
    Some Christians are gay and find themselves being turned away from Churches (or, in the case of someone at my sister's Church, getting hot coffee thrown over them because another worshipper thinks they're gay). That's an example of Christians against homosexuality having their beliefs tolerated in this world - it's not pretty, but it happens every day. While large numbers of Christians are judging others and turning them away from their chosen place of worship for holding different beliefs or living a different life I don't think you can complain about people turning Christians away for the same reasons.
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    (Original post by wdkmwd)
    Oh please don't gimme that tripe.

    You really want to act as if western media over the last 20 years hasn't just been a cesspool for people to demonise christians with endless propaganda, and the oushing of the gay liberal agenda?

    We have seen people at LGBT rallies holding up posters and signs asking for the end of Christianity and the incineration of it's followers, we've also seen them mocking our sole religious figure claiming he was gay himself, Television shows shoving their liberal garbage down our necks but when we complain and talk back we are the ones labelled intolerant bigots.



    Just look in the mirror and you'll see the intolerant person here.
    The thing with Christainity is that it is a broad church. Many Christians are very tolerant people and there is no shortage of gay Christians. Unfortunately there is a minority that use their religion to preach hate. I'm quite happy to call a man who dehumanises people by calling them less than animals or quotes passages calling for their death an intolerant bigot.

    And I'm sorry you don't like criticism of certain Christain or the lampooning of its figurehead, but it's the hallmark of a free society.
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    (Original post by mscaffrey)
    Some Christians are gay and find themselves being turned away from Churches (or, in the case of someone at my sister's Church, getting hot coffee thrown over them because another worshipper thinks they're gay). That's an example of Christians against homosexuality having their beliefs tolerated in this world - it's not pretty, but it happens every day. While large numbers of Christians are judging others and turning them away from their chosen place of worship for holding different beliefs or living a different life I don't think you can complain about people turning Christians away for the same reasons.


    That's an oxymoron my dear.


    You can't call yourself a Christian and openly break numerous commandments the LORD gave us. It's as easy as that.


    I am against any form of violence. When Jesus preached his message he never used a sword as some false prophets have done so no i am against forcing people to believe in an ideology, but i do however believe in telling non-believers or sinners the consequences of their lifestyle if they choose to continue living in sin.
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    (Original post by wdkmwd)
    That's an oxymoron my dear.


    You can't call yourself a Christian and openly break numerous commandments the LORD gave us. It's as easy as that.


    I am against any form of violence. When Jesus preached his message he never used a sword as some false prophets have done so no i am against forcing people to believe in an ideology, but i do however believe in telling non-believers or sinners the consequences of their lifestyle if they choose to continue living in sin.
    I bet you break an awful lot of Old Testament commandments yourself.
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    (Original post by mscaffrey)
    I bet you break an awful lot of Old Testament commandments yourself.



    I follow the teachings of Jesus and the ten commandments only as that's primarily what Jesus commanded me to do.

    Those laws about eating shellfish, having long hair, and resting on the sabbath are either strictly for the Jews or completely irrelevant to the new covenant because i can already tell that's where you were going with this.
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    (Original post by wdkmwd)
    I do support any form of free speech. Even though i COMPLETELY disagree with Islam.
    Fantastic. So if Amir Khan tweeted that Christians were the worst of creatures and quoted from the Qur'an "Kill them wherever you find them", you would of course not protest and would oppose any actions against incitement of hate and murder.

    I am however opposed to facist and tyrannical means of asserting a point. Like banning people from shopping centres or arresting people for speaking their mind.


    You need to stop reading books filled with socialist propaganda, you imperialistic Bolshevik liberal.
    Please, say what you like about me but I am not a facist. I have nothing against them. In fact, I find some of them to be quite attractive.

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    Anyway besides the cripple fight on this thread imo it isnt a big thing an does anyone care whether hes banned or not?
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    (Original post by wdkmwd)
    I follow the teachings of Jesus and the ten commandments only as that's primarily what Jesus commanded me to do.

    Those laws about eating shellfish, having long hair, and resting on the sabbath are either strictly for the Jews or completely irrelevant to the new covenant because i can already tell that's where you were going with this.
    If you follow the teachings of Jesus and the ten commandments only where are you getting your commandments against homosexuality from? Because I guarantee you that Jesus never said a word about it and neither did the ten commandments.

    And of course you can tell where I was going with this, because you know full well that half the Bible is discarded by Christians but for some reason the gay thing has been kept. And don't mention Paul because he has nothing to do with Jesus or the ten commandments - he was simply an early Christian.
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    (Original post by Ascend)
    Fantastic. So if Amir Khan tweeted that Christians were the worst of creatures and quoted from the Qur'an "Kill them wherever you find them", you would of course not protest and would oppose any actions against incitement of hate and murder.



    Please, say what you like about me but I am not a facist. I have nothing against them. In fact, I find some of them to be quite attractive.
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    For your first point. You need to understand that there's a difference between supporting an ideology, and supporting the right for a person to support an ideology.

    Most people who know me know that if i could fully express my views of islam on here, it would get me permanently banned. But i do support a person expressing their views, even though they do quote a book (The Qur'an) that has more holes that a donut shop.


    You are supporting fascism, and imperialistic oppression by not allowing people to say what they want. You Orwellian double talking socialist.
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    (Original post by mscaffrey)
    If you follow the teachings of Jesus and the ten commandments only where are you getting your commandments against homosexuality from? Because I guarantee you that Jesus never said a word about it and neither did the ten commandments.

    And of course you can tell where I was going with this, because you know full well that half the Bible is discarded by Christians but for some reason the gay thing has been kept. And don't mention Paul because he has nothing to do with Jesus or the ten commandments - he was simply an early Christian.



    Mark 7: 21- 23 "For it is from within, out of a person’s heart, that evil thoughts come—sexual immorality, theft, murder,
    22 adultery, greed, malice, deceit, lewdness, envy, slander, arrogance and folly. 23 All these evils come from inside and defile a person.”


    Jesus was a well educated hebrew so he knew the Law, and he knew what sexual immorality was.



    And LOL, i never even mentioned paul.
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    Good, I am glad he was banned


    People need to learn the lesson that nobody owes them a platform from which to air their idiocy.
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    (Original post by Feel Tha Bern)
    Good, I am glad he was banned


    People need to learn the lesson that nobody owes them a platform from which to air their idiocy.


    But liberals are allowed to air their idiocy by oppressing free speech?


    Typical left wing communist supporting marxist.


    Your avatar is off a man whose net worth is $400,000 :hahaha::hahaha::hahaha::hahaha::giggle::giggle::giggle::giggle:
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    If same was said about Muslims/other religious group no one would hear the end of it.
    Why are people suddenly coming to his defense saying 'it's tyrannical. Lack of freedom of speech. It's his opinion blah blah blah'

    The double standards are overwhelming.
    Why isn't it tyrannical when people that share their opinions on Islam are banned from speaking? Why is it only tyrannical when someone shares opinions you agree with?
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    (Original post by StrawbAri)
    If same was said about Muslims/other religious group no one would hear the end of it.
    Why are people suddenly coming to his defense saying 'it's tyrannical. Lack of freedom of speech. It's his opinion blah blah blah'

    The double standards are overwhelming.
    Why isn't it tyrannical when people that share their opinions on Islam are banned from speaking? Why is it only tyrannical when someone shares opinions you agree with?


    Read what i wrote above.


    Any one can say whatever the hell they want.


    Agreeing with someone saying something is one thing.


    Agreeing with what the person is saying is another thing.


    What's so hard to understand in that?
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    (Original post by StrawbAri)
    If same was said about Muslims/other religious group no one would hear the end of it.
    Why are people suddenly coming to his defense saying 'it's tyrannical. Lack of freedom of speech. It's his opinion blah blah blah'

    The double standards are overwhelming.
    Why isn't it tyrannical when people that share their opinions on Islam are banned from speaking? Why is it only tyrannical when someone shares opinions you agree with?
    Such is the way of the bigot

    You'll find Christians get annoyed when their bigotry is exposed and no longer tolerated and you find moslims complain where their bigotry is exposed and their bigotry is no longer being tolerated
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    lol why should Pacquiao give a chit?

    it's not like that's the ony mall in the world, or even the only mall in LA for matter
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    (Original post by wdkmwd)
    Your avatar is off a man whose net worth is $400,000
    That's around £280,000. The average UK house price is £288,000.


    To have a net worth of just under £300,000 is hardly atypical for any 74 year old (given the huge increase in house prices and the fact that they would have paid off their mortgage by then), let alone one that has been in the upper echelons of elected office for decades.


    If I had been an elected senator/rep in the U.S. for decades and only had assets totalling £280,000 at retirement age I would be pretty disappointed with myself in all honesty.
 
 
 
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