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    Has the attacker been identified yet? Or attackers.
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    (Original post by BaconandSauce)
    AH the retort of the true thinker.
    Better than the rhetoric that "anyone who disagrees is a terrorist"
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    Belgium's nuclear power plant has been called to be evacuated apparently ~6mins ago


    it was nice knowing you people (some of you)
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    (Original post by Feel Tha Bern)
    Of course not, but I genuinely think that people who have implemented policies which have causes huge amounts of damage, when they are warned and when the damage caused was predictable, should be imprisoned.

    It's not even that extreme, if you intentionally run a company badly to push down share prices or make hugely reckless decisions you are criminally liable, it should be the same for politicians.
    So, by this logic (only an idiot would claim that Merkel et al are deliberately attempting to destabilise Europe and are knowingly allow these attackers to remain at large) all politicians who don't ban dog ownership, or outlaw cars, are responsible for all dog attacks and car deaths, and should be imprisoned?

    Careful now. Your colours are showing (pun intended).
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    Let's not get involved in an argument, that would be pretty insensitive considering what's going on.
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    (Original post by Feel Tha Bern)
    Belgium's nuclear power plant has been called to be evacuated apparently ~6mins ago


    it was nice knowing you people (it really wasn't but lol)
    There is a massive problem with nuclear security in Belgium, they just do not take it seriously. There was recently an alleged kidnapping plot aimed at a high profile figure in the industry, with the aim of getting hold of nuclear materials.
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    (Original post by Feel Tha Bern)
    I haven't advocated Muslims being attacked so it's not relevant.
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    You claimed that on-Muslim Asians don't suffer from anti-Muslim bigotry, so it is completely relevant.

    Still think Merkel should be in prison and she's a White Christian.
    But you think that she shoould be in prison for letting too many brown foreigners in.
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    (Original post by Aj12)
    There is a massive problem with nuclear security in Belgium, they just do not take it seriously. There was recently an alleged kidnapping plot aimed at a high profile figure in the industry, with the aim of getting hold of nuclear materials.
    Shits just got real

    https://twitter.com/pzf/status/712264432605401092
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    (Original post by Frank Underwood)
    It has had an effect, but no matter how much you bomb a terrorist group, they will always have the capacity to co-ordinate attacks.

    Evidence of this is Al-Qaeda, who have been subject to extermination by the US for 15 years, yet just last year two of their militants attacked Charlie Hebdo.

    Bombing militants in the Middle East will not stop terrorist attacks.
    Nobody's saying or has said it will stop them outright, but pretending they're not part of the solution is akin to sticking your head in the sand.

    If you stop a group from having 100% capability and limit them to only 25% capability then you are having a marked effect on them.

    Clearly, there needs to be other elements as well.
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    (Original post by Frank Underwood)
    Better than the rhetoric that "anyone who disagrees is a terrorist"
    expect that's not what I've done nor the rhetoric I've used

    I'm simply saying you seem to know an awful lot about what ISIS want

    You also want to stifle debate about Islam in case it upsets the terminal upset and I'm just questioning your motives for this stance
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    (Original post by Fullofsurprises)
    It's absolutely disgraceful the way the reactionary right is seeking to cash in on this, from Trump to Le Pen and from UKIP to the TSR trolls, every race-hating headbanger on the planet is jumping for joy.Really, they are like dung beetles having a feeding frenzy.
    (Original post by QE2)
    And that is almost certainly part of the reason for these attacks.
    This apologist nonsense is far more disgusting to my eyes. This idea that the actions of ISIS can be rationalised due to bigots in the west and that if we leave the middle east alone now terrorism will stop is utter nonsense. The end goal of ISIS is global conversion to Islam and death to every non-believer of their version of Islam. This is not some righteous response to western foreign policy, this is a deranged death cult.

    How you can use the term race-bating when this has absolutely nothing to do with race is bemusing. I know some on the left like to bring up race as a catch-all term to shut down any argument but this is really pushing the boat out.

    The fact that there are some in the West whose interpretation of Islam is a genuine threat to our society is evident. The fact that there is a huge gulf between the traditional Islamic view of the world and the enlightened western view of the world is also true. The fact that Europe's response to the refugee crisis risks aggravating that situation is also a fact.

    Pointing these things out is in no way discriminatory, reactionary or reprehensible. Incidentally, those words are far more appropriate in the context of Islam.

    It never ceases to amaze me how certain people on the left can be so critical of the reactionary intolerance of the hard right, and yet perfectly receptive of the far more intolerant and reactionary views of Islam. Complete cognitive dissonance.
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    (Original post by Feel Tha Bern)
    Shits just got real

    https://twitter.com/pzf/status/712264432605401092
    Doubt they can do anything as the countries already on high- alert so this is a non-issue. But theoretically if they could do something the the power station what would be the ramifications on the country, would it spread beyond Belgium?
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    (Original post by Feel Tha Bern)
    It's not just this attack today, it's the wider trend, soon major European cities will look like Beirut and Cairo when this is a monthly occurrence feeding through with the other news of the day.


    At least in America you can live in gated communities and pack heat like a boss
    LOL at pack heat like a boss.

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    (Original post by Oilfreak1)
    Doubt they can do anything as the countries already on high- alert so this is a non-issue. But theoretically if they could do something the the power station what would be the ramifications on the country, would it spread beyond Belgium?
    I honestly don't know, this is wild.
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    (Original post by tengentoppa)
    This apologist nonsense is far more disgusting to my eyes. This idea that the actions of ISIS can be rationalised due to bigots in the west and that if we leave the middle east alone now terrorism will stop is utter nonsense. The end goal of ISIS is global conversion to Islam and death to every non-believer of their version of Islam. This is not some righteous response to western foreign policy, this is a deranged death cult.

    How you can use the term race-bating when this has absolutely nothing to do with race is bemusing. I know some on the left like to bring up race as a catch-all term to shut down any argument but this is really pushing the boat out.

    The fact that there are some in the West whose interpretation of Islam is a genuine threat to our society is evident. The fact that there is a huge gulf between the traditional Islamic view of the world and the enlightened western view of the world is also true. The fact that Europe's response to the refugee crisis risks aggravating that situation is also a fact.

    Pointing these things out is in no way discriminatory, reactionary or reprehensible. Incidentally, those words are far more appropriate in the context of Islam.

    It never ceases to amaze me how certain people on the left can be so critical of the reactionary intolerance of the hard right, and yet perfectly receptive of the far more intolerant and reactionary views of Islam. Complete cognitive dissonance.
    There is an objective analysis of Islamist radicalism, its outreach to Muslim young people raised in the west and the ways we respond to that to prevent them carrying out actions like this and the need to deal firmly and finally with the IS threat and others.

    Then there are racism peddlers like Trump and Le Pen, seizing on this and an army of little followers.

    It's the latter that disgusts me and the way they leap on this. UKIP are no better.

    Trump is one of the most outrageous, with his ridiculous characterisations of European capitals like London, Paris and Brussels as collapsed warzones, rhetoric that plays perfectly into the hands of the reactionary and racist Christian Right in the US, who gyrate wildly to these Pavlovian bells.
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    (Original post by Frank Underwood)
    No, I expect them to understand that more than 99% of Muslims are peaceful, though.
    Not this again you think we should treat this as simply as muslims who will commit a terrorist act and the ones who won't?

    You can't make such a simple divide like that. What about the millions who have similar views and even support these terrorists? They are just as important in breeding the environment which Islamic terrorism grows.

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    (Original post by BaconandSauce)
    The left's has always had an issue with racism of low expectations

    Poor little brown people can't be expected to act like us white folks so we can't hold them to the same standards as us.
    Absolute trash and a severe case of pots and kettles. The left traditionally always sided with liberation movements in Asia, Africa and yes, the Middle East. Parts of the left may have abandoned reason and opted for a right wing neocon agenda of controlling them with dictatorships because they can't cope, but look how that turned out.

    It's traditionally the conservatives who viewed the darker races as unable to govern themselves.

    The far right play to people's amnesia and try to subvert and rewrite history on this. Their ideology is to whip up hysteria, collapse society and replace it with corporatist fascism. That's what for example Trump is really all about.
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