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    (Original post by Betelgeuse-)
    Just remember guys that not all muslims are terrorists - Not all smokers get cancer

    The fact that the overwhelming majority of attacks are done by muslims is purely coincidental just like the fact that you are more likely to get cancer if you smoke.

    PURELY COINCIDENTAL
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    (Original post by missfats)
    Next time I'm reading the quran, I'll make sure I don't get inspired to blow anyone up.

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    (Original post by Menakshelatte)
    hmmmm...why are terror attacks rare in the west? maybe because people care about it and take action about it.
    why are there constant terror attacks in syria,palestine and recently Turkey?
    maybe because nobody seems to take it seriously and take action about it?

    Belgium, for example, closes all eyes to terrorism in palestine and syria.
    and hasn't been responsive to attacks in turkey.
    Tell me, why should I care about Brussels today?
    You make it sound like as though people in Syria, Palestine, and Turkey do not care about terrorist attacks in the US, the UK, Spain, France, Belgium etc. ...which makes me wonder about your reasons for posting the image you did, as well as your own inclinations.

    They should care because terrorism murders people, and disrupts society in general. This is something that all humans should be able to identify with, not this "Belgium" you speak of.

    The reason why terrorist attacks are rare in the West is because the drivers of such actions have been much reduced in recent centuries: fundamentalist ideologies, poverty, low levels of education, and the feeling of not being represented in society.
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    (Original post by BeastOfSyracuse)
    Millions more. But I'm not going to further waste my time arguing with someone who is not only disingenuous but clearly not very bright. Life's too short
    So you resort to personal attacks when you run out of fuel.

    I'm not sure why I bothered replying to you in the first place. Keep on hating Islam and supporting the terrorists' aims if you want.
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    (Original post by Betelgeuse-)
    Just remember guys that not all muslims are terrorists - Not all smokers get cancer

    The fact that the overwhelming majority of attacks are done by muslims is purely coincidental just like the fact that you are more likely to get cancer if you smoke.

    PURELY COINCIDENTAL
    And if you say otherwise, you are an ignorant racist capitalising on events to futher your evil nazi plan
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    (Original post by QE2)
    Does it?
    "Fight the disbelievers until there is no more shirk and all religion is for Allah". 8:39

    This was revealed some years after sura 109, so would abrogate it if there is any contradiction.
    If any Muslim killed a Muahid (i.e. non-Muslim living in Muslim land with agreement) then he (muslim) shall not even smell the fragrance of Paradise although the fragrance of Paradise would have been perceived from the distance of travelling for 40 years [Sahih Bukhari, Volume No. 3, Hadith # 2995]

    Qur’an: “And do not insult those they invoke other than Allah, lest they insult Allah in enmity without knowledge.” (Al-Qur’an 6:108).


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    (Original post by Frank Underwood)
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    By the way, withdrawing from conversation with you should free you up to answer Reformed's question
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    (Original post by homeland.lsw)
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    All I know is soon the antichrist will be coming and marking everyone with a 666 and we will be judged in the eyes of god and I am seriously hoping that will be before the 17th May...
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    lol of course not! It's just sad to hear about these things so often these days...
    ah well, I agree with you on that last point.
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    (Original post by NK18444)
    "whoso kills a soul, unless it be for murder or for wreaking corruption in the land, it shall be as if he had killed all mankind; and he who saves a life, it shall be as if he had given life to all mankind.”
    Wondered how long it would be before someone brought this verse up.
    At least you had the honesty to quote it in full. Most Muslims miss out the "unless it be for murder or fasad" bit!
    However, you forgot to mention the next verse, which details who may be killed, what for, and how.
    "Indeed, the penalty for those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger and strive upon earth to cause corruption is none but that they be killed or crucified or that their hands and feet be cut off from opposite sides or that they be exiled from the land." 5:33

    If we consult Ibn Kathir
    http://www.alim.org/library/quran/Al...afsir/TIK/5/32
    we see that "wage war" is described as including "opposition, contradiction and disbelief".
    He also describes "fasad" as meaning "disbelief and acts of disobedience"
    http://www.qtafsir.com/index.php?opt...sk=view&id=436

    So, as we can see, taken in context and with the benefit of exegesis by classical Islamic scholars, that verse actually supports the killing of those who oppose Islam, disbelieve or disobey god's law.

    Now, obviously, there will be people who reject the work of such scholars, and form their own interpretations - as they are entitled to do - but it is somewhat naive to claim that such DIY interpretations carry more weight with the Ummah than possibly the most widely used and accepted of all the tafsir.

    "to you is your religion and to me is my religion"- basically encouraging muslims to allow others to practice freely- Quran
    Dealt with this one already.
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    GUYS GUYS only a small proportion of muslims want to blow you up therefore Islam is peaceful and nothing needs to be done!

    GUYS GUYS only a small proportion of drink drivers kill or maim people therefore drink driving is fine and nothing needs to be done!
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    (Original post by Mathemagicien)
    And if you say otherwise, you are an ignorant racist capitalising on events to futher your evil nazi plan
    Of course and dont forget a smoke aphobic to boot
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    (Original post by Betelgeuse-)
    GUYS GUYS only a small proportion of muslims want to blow you up therefore Islam is peaceful and nothing needs to be done!

    GUYS GUYS only a small proportion of drink drivers kill or maim people therefore drink driving is fine and nothing needs to be done!
    Do you think you're helping the situation? Its ignorant people like you who make these Muslims hate the west.
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    (Original post by Betelgeuse-)
    Just remember guys that not all muslims are terrorists - Not all smokers get cancer

    The fact that the overwhelming majority of attacks are done by muslims is purely coincidental just like the fact that you are more likely to get cancer if you smoke.

    PURELY COINCIDENTAL
    (Original post by Betelgeuse-)
    GUYS GUYS only a small proportion of muslims want to blow you up therefore Islam is peaceful and nothing needs to be done!

    GUYS GUYS only a small proportion of drink drivers kill or maim people therefore drink driving is fine and nothing needs to be done!
    PRSOM.
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    (Original post by Kraixo)
    That moment when you are so desperate that you have to lie about the quran. smh. If you gona quote, quote properly with a reliable translation and tafsir of the verse. The quran was revealed over a period of 23 years, verses being revealed by god based on certain events happening.

    A fool like you who has no knowledge of the context of the verses nor, the sciences of the hadith, has no right to come to conclusions.

    How about you actually try to study the religion with an open hearth from authentic places, instead of just screaming stuff which is nothing but just a figment of your ignorant imagination.

    Keep lying, the religion will never collapse. It will only keep growing, its the truth and the only way to success in this world and the hereafter.
    Even if it was "the truth", it still condones terrorism, and was founded by a genocidal terrorist.
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    (Original post by Frank Underwood)
    Do you think you're helping the situation? Its ignorant people like you who make these Muslims hate the west.
    I think it's quite insulting of you to assume that Muslims have such a low tolerance for criticism of their religion that they are that easily swayed into extremism.
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    (Original post by Betelgeuse-)
    Of course and dont forget a smoke aphobic to boot
    You just wait around for terrorist attacks so you can undermine all muslims and Islam, you have no respect for those that have died. You make me sick.
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    (Original post by Menakshelatte)
    hmmmm...why are terror attacks rare in the west? maybe because people care about it and take action about it.
    why are there constant terror attacks in syria,palestine and recently Turkey?
    maybe because nobody seems to take it seriously and take action about it?

    Belgium, for example, closes all eyes to terrorism in palestine and syria.
    and hasn't been responsive to attacks in turkey.
    Tell me, why should I care about Brussels today?
    Hang on poppet.

    Terrorist attacks are rare in the west because people take action . . . . But surely you mean the west takes action? What does turkey or Syria do to stop terrorism in the west? No, you must be congratulating the west.

    But that can't get right. Because you wouldn't talk like Belgium has a duty to take action for terrorist attacks in Turkey.

    You don't have to care about Brussels. No one fill force you.

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    (Original post by Menakshelatte)
    The thing is, Islam is not problem.
    because not every islamic country produces terrorists?
    Kazakhstan, Krgyzstan, Turkmenistan, Tajikistan, Azerbaijan, Indonesia, Turkey, Cyprus, Kosovo and many many more.
    These are all muslim countries. They do no produce terrorists for the very large minority. And they are not extreme.

    THEN AGAIN, Like you say, there are extremists, and extremist countries, that create problems, that especially come from the middle east.

    So, the media trying to portray Islam as the root of a problem is false. because as given above, there are a lot of peaceful muslims and muslim countries.

    For example, even though I am a muslim, if I go Saudi Arabia or Oman today, for Holiday, I will probably be stoned.(for not being as extreme as them)
    if I go indonesia, i doubt anything will happen.
    Islam is a problem because these terrorists have an extreme and literal interpretation of it. Like Betelgeuse said, it's hardly coincidence that every major terrorist attack in Europe in the last years or so is by Muslims. Why aren't there the same number of Christian, Buddhist and Hindu terrorists? It is clearly due to Islamic scripture and doctrine and thankfully most Muslims ignore the violent bits in the Quran.
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    (Original post by sunni money)
    I think it's quite insulting of you to assume that Muslims have such a low tolerance for criticism of their religion that they are that easily swayed into extremism.
    Only some Muslims are easily swayed into extremism.

    You should be extremely happy that the vast majority of Muslims are good, tolerant people. Otherwise you'd see dozens of these sorts of attacks every few days.
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    (Original post by Frank Underwood)
    Do you think you're helping the situation? Its ignorant people like you who make these Muslims hate the west.
    Yes my factual anology of cancer and smoking compared to Islam and terrorism is going to make muslims from the religion of peace strap on bomb vests and massacre 34 innocent men women and children


    Helping the situation? Absoloutely, pointing out the absurdity in the woefully disgusting and willfully ignorant logic far too many politicans media and therefore civilians believe is absolutely the most helpful thing i can do to educate people and show them the lies and absurdity of their thinking

    Let me tell you what does not help:

    1) Offering thoughts and prayers
    2) Trying to blindly defend the reasons, motivations and intentions as well as irrefutable evidence of the link between Islam and blowing innocent civilians to pieces
    3) Telling others it has nothing to do with Islam

    2 and 3 are tremendously harmful and those who continue to do 2 and 3 are complicit in all future attacks by Islamic terrorism

    You might think it makes you appear intelligent and tolerant but you are batting for the islamists and ISIS
 
 
 
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