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    (Original post by sunni money)
    Yes. Those supporting the bombing of civilians are no better than those that carry out the bombings.


    I find it amazingly how you are just willing to brush off such sickening statistics.
    You're confusing statistics.

    The people who think bombing in DEFENCE OF ISLAM is often justified compared to those who would willingly go out and kill people in suicide bombings are different statistics.

    People have different interpretations of what 'defending Islam' is.
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    (Original post by Judas69)
    Im muslim, and the media is soo against Islam, we need to do someting about the media
    I personally think we should focus more on challenging ideologies that venerate the lives of genocidal warlords.
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    (Original post by missfats)
    The people of Afghanistan and Iraq also thought of themselves as targets of the West.

    Don't be so dramatic about how you feel like a target. People from 3rd world countries face the threat of terrorism and western intervention right at their doorstep every goddam day , just like you feel like that about isis.
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    (Original post by Frank Underwood)
    You do realise that only shows the percentages who think bombings in defence of Islam is justified?

    Come back when you've got a poll which says that x% of Muslims would personally do suicide bombings.

    There's a difference between those who think its justified and those who would willingly do it.
    Supporting suicide bombings is fine then?

    If 30% believe suicide bombing is justified, that is something to be concerned about.
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    (Original post by Racoon)
    All I can say back is that the God of my faith isn't recognisable in these events
    "All I can say back is that my little boy isn't recognisable in these events" - Mrs Hitler
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    (Original post by QE2)
    In short, as an oversimplification; Islamic ideology is the enemy, as it calls for the physical and temporal subjugation of the world to Islam. (Other religions do not do this. At best, they call for a spiritual monopoly, and they do not insist on scriptural literal infallibility and universal application)

    Muslims are not the enemy because they do not all explicitly call for this. Some do. They are the enemy.

    However, all those who refuse to condemn or reject the ideology are complicit (albeit unwittingly) in the actions of the enemy.

    BTW, I don't like using "enemy", but will in order to simplify my answer.
    This is how we shpuld be thinking . Islam is bad, like most ideologies. Muslims beleive in that ideology and hence support it. Islam needs to be removed, therefore Muslims either need to reform or abandon their religion or they arent welcome.

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    (Original post by Mathemagicien)
    Supporting suicide bombings is fine then?
    No. But it's sure as hell a lot better than wanting to go and commit suicide bombings.
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    (Original post by Frank Underwood)
    You're confusing statistics.

    The people who think bombing in DEFENCE OF ISLAM is often justified compared to those who would willingly go out and kill people in suicide bombings are different statistics.
    You are repeating yourself.


    I just told you that those that support killing civilians are just as bad as those that carry out the suicide bombings themselves. The fact that so many can be put in this category across the world is a huge cause for concern.
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    (Original post by sunni money)
    Source?


    Not targets of Saddam Hussein's vile dictatorship? Not targets of the Taliban's racism or Islamism?


    The West never deliberately targeted/targets civilians. The West intervenes to help civilians abroad, and we get hatred from Taliban-apologists like you for our efforts.


    Western intervention is no "threat", it is their only chance of salvation for many civilians in such hell-holes.
    Most places that the West has step foot in has "become" hell holes not the other way around . It's funny how many British people complain about immigration but if you haven't ruined our countries, we would all be relaxing under the sun essentially.

    Western intervention is no "threat "? I mean why am I arguing with a guy who properly was always pampered in the UK and has no real life experience of war and experience of seeing their own country go downhill.

    Just Go watch more BBC, that's the only media outlet you have to fuel your ignorance.
    You really are insulating the hundreds of thousands who have died through western intervention when you say you have essentially only just come to give us salvation. :mwuaha::mwuaha:

    Calling me a taliban apologist lol.
    If anyone had more hatred for isis and it's likes, it's people who are from countries where terrorism is rife.
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    (Original post by Frank Underwood)
    You just said I was a Muslim, I can't really take your reply seriously. I am not going to argue with someone who makes up facts.
    you told me you were muslim when you pretended to be an atheist who couldnt tell me they believe islamic doctrine to be bad . i was though referring to all apologists for these islamic groups, not just yourself

    the stats are based on those you had quoted from Pew.
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    (Original post by sunni money)
    You are repeating yourself.


    I just told you that those that support killing civilians are just as bad as those that carry out the suicide bombings themselves. The fact that so many can be put in this category across the world is a huge cause for concern.
    But no one's saying anyone 'supports' bombings, all that your stupid poll suggests is that a small amount of Muslims think that bombings in the defence of Islam are sometimes or often justified.

    Two different things.
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    (Original post by Reformed)
    you told me you were muslim when you pretended to be an atheist who couldnt tell me they believe islamic doctrine to be bad . i was though referring to all apologists for these islamic groups, not just yourself

    the stats are based on those you had quoted from Pew.
    you're delusional, I did not say I was Muslim, ever.
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    (Original post by Racoon)
    All I can say back is that the God of my faith isn't recognisable in these events and Christianity is growing.

    Jesus condemns violence.
    Didn't Samson carry out a suicide attack?

    Didn't Jesus condone the doctrine of Damnation, the most evil and violent ideology ever devised?
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    (Original post by Frank Underwood)
    You do realise that only shows the percentages who think bombings in defence of Islam is justified?

    Come back when you've got a poll which says that x% of Muslims would personally do suicide bombings.

    There's a difference between those who think its justified and those who would willingly do it.
    Oh come on. Will you accept now that far more than 1% of muslims hold just as extreme views as ISIS?

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    322 Skull and bones.
    Sacrifice of blood to Satan Hooray :ahee:

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    (Original post by Frank Underwood)
    No. But it's sure as hell a lot better than wanting to go and commit suicide bombings.
    not by much- one is an enabler for another.
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    Same argumemts. BLAH BLAH BLAH.

    Guys its March the 22nd ! :ahee:

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    (Original post by missfats)
    Still as obsessed with Islam as usual.

    :ahee:
    Would you mock the teacher who is obsessed with ignorance? Or the doctor obsessed with illness?
    :ahee:

    Did you have a point to make?
    :ahee:

    I notice that you have abandoned attempting to defend it here.
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    (Original post by Frank Underwood)
    you're delusional, I did not say I was Muslim, ever.
    so you do you believe the islamic doctrine to be a good thing or bad?
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    (Original post by Frank Underwood)
    No. But it's sure as hell a lot better than wanting to go and commit suicide bombings.
    It could just mean they are opposed to the act of suicide, or that they don't have the courage of their convictions. It doesn't tell you how many would willing kill for their religion, by any means.
 
 
 
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