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    (Original post by Frank Underwood)
    That's because you refuse to accept the truth, and the truth is that you're a victim of right-wing scaremongering and you are indirectly supporting ISIS by hating Islam for the actions of three attackers today in Brussels.
    keep it up . TSR needs more comedy figures
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    (Original post by Menakshelatte)
    I am responsible for my own actions.
    I didn't say other people in Syria,palestine turkey do not care.
    Is there any evidence that they do care any more than people in Western countries care?

    (Original post by Menakshelatte)
    explosion in ankara, and explosion in istanbul happened just about a week ago.
    WHERE IS BELGIUM? WHERE WAS BELGIUM?
    You are possibly overestimating the importance of Belgium. I am certain that the Belgium government in any case is committed to giving foreign aid, and perhaps contributing in other ways, such as accepting refugees.

    (Original post by Menakshelatte)
    I care about ALL people. Unfortunately, this is not the views of many countries.
    for example Russia, who decides to bomb civil areas in syria.
    or America, who support Israels genocide.
    I think you are confusing the actions of a government with the actions of its people. You may have some point however.

    (Original post by Menakshelatte)
    Today, Belgium is attacked, and wants us to unite.
    what a joke.
    If you are able to take part in such an action, and you are sympathetic towards it in general, then what is your problem?
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    This is a nice video that covers the response by many to the attacks - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFyh...ulJosephWatson

    I'm just curious to see how many more of these attacks there will be until leftist retards start to understand that bringing refugees to Europe in the hundreds of thousands, if not millions, simply doesn't work, as many of them do not wish to adjust to our culture which is where the conflict begins. But hey, I suppose that making such a simple observation just makes me a bigoted racist, as I'm sure many would think.

    Also, so much for Islam being a religion of peace, as that silly statement is disproved over and over again.
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    (Original post by Frank Underwood)
    This is just stupid. You're assuming that one poll which shows that a small amount of Muslims think that suicide bombings in the defence of Islam is often justified is EVEN COMPARABLE to having equally as extreme views as ISIS.

    This is just idiocy, stop replying to me. You think one tiny poll which asked one question definitely tells us that some 62 million Muslims are as extreme as ISIS.
    You were better when you would describe your points clearly.

    Here I'll describe mine again.

    ISIS believe that suicide bombings is justified. Throughout South East Asian countries, middle eastern countries and Northern African countries (with the overwhelming majority being muslim) there exist 7% and more who agree with suicide bombing.

    They share the same view of suicide bombing. That's is in its tens of millions. That one view alone.

    Other views are shared about apostacy etc.

    If you're going to stop replying, at least don't make silly mistakes. *Tiny* poll!?!?!?! Do you see how extensive it was? Well, what did I expect.

    *small* amount of muslims?!?!? You mean millions upon millions in neighbouring countries?

    I have to remember that the nonsense you spew is actually very very common. You aren't alone in refusing to listen to arguments for more than 1% of the Muslim population having extremist views.


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    (Original post by Frank Underwood)
    Being an apologist is better than supporting ISIS by hating Islam.

    ISIS want you to hate Islam, and you are playing directly into their hands with this nonsense propaganda you're spamming.
    islamic terrorism is bigger than just IS ( there are scores of islamist groups accross the globe- andso islam is the consistent factor), apart from this what is islams significant contribution to the world? your apologism is allowing islamic terrorists to gain support within the muslim community
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    (Original post by Judas69)
    Yeah focus on western cultuer ideologies not muslim. There is no God but allah mohammad is his messenger
    Muhammad was a genocidal warlord. The book that he wrote (or had written), the qur'an, has a god that condones and carries out terrorism and genocide. These are "values" that are abhorrent to (comparatively) peaceful and diverse societies.
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    (Original post by Onde)
    Well, I mean, the qur'an has passages condoned terrorist acts, and Muhammad and his followers have slaughtered rather a lot of people over the centuries. The first pillar of Islam says there is no god but Allah, and recognises Muhammad as its messenger, which would suggest that all Muslims support the actions of a terrorist god and a terrorist messenger.
    That is a very drastic perspective on islam you hold :wtf: and those killings were justified as it was a war that the other side (non belivers) wanted to have asthey wanted the prophet dead. These terrorist attacks cannot be justified at all.
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    (Original post by Onde)
    Afganistan and Iraq are actually more prosperous now than they were 15 years ago.
    :ahee::ahee::ahee::ahee:

    Continue to insult Afghan and Iraqi people.

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    (Original post by Frank Underwood)
    Being an apologist is better than supporting ISIS by hating Islam.

    ISIS want you to hate Islam, and you are playing directly into their hands with this nonsense propaganda you're spamming.
    What dodgy reverse psychology.

    If it's true, it's true.

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    (Original post by Frank Underwood)
    This is just stupid. You're assuming that one poll which shows that a small amount of Muslims think that suicide bombings in the defence of Islam is often justified is EVEN COMPARABLE to having equally as extreme views as ISIS.

    This is just idiocy, stop replying to me. You think one tiny poll which asked one question definitely tells us that some 62 million Muslims are as extreme as ISIS.
    Opinions on ISIS:



    The fact that roughly 10% (in the countries above) are brave enough to outward admit support for the IS is quite astonishing!


    The fact that so many refuse to answer either way is very worrying.


    But here you go, proof that millions of Muslims "have a favourable opinion of ISIS"!


    4% of Indonesia's population = 10 million
    8% of Turkey's population = 6 million
    14% of Nigeria's population = 25 million
    9% of Pakistan's population = 18 million


    That's 60 million that support the IS in just 4 countries! And that's ignoring the worryingly large percentages that refused to answer either way...
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    I have no intention of letting Islam send us back to the stone age.

    It seems every majority Muslim country is at war with someone else. If you want violence just embrace Islam.
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    (Original post by missfats)
    :ahee::ahee::ahee::ahee:

    Continue to insult Afghan and Iraqi people.

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    How on Earth is it an insult to say those nations are better now?


    Afghanistan was developing really well prior to the Taliban take-over and is now developing much better after those religious fascists got their asses kicked by the Americans. The Taliban only represented one group of Afghans, Pashtuns who follow Deobandi Islam.
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    (Original post by Frank Underwood)
    What's the point? You're almost certainly going to ignore or dismiss anything I post, as you have been doing for the last few hours. Not to mention your request doesn't even make sense.
    I don't see how bombing Charlie Hebdo wasn't seen as defending Islam and he prophet. Of course non extreme muslims wouldn't see it that way, but the extremes would.

    But mainly, I just can't think of an example of suicide bombing which defends Islam. Would that be suicide bombing the British or American military? Not sure that's an example, after all, if it's an act of war to defend Islam from Western imperialism, what's the difference between killing French civilians over French soldiers? The point is to let France know it can't attack without retaliation and many muslim civilians are killed.

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    (Original post by luminarychild)
    That is a very drastic perspective on islam you hold :wtf: and those killings were justified as it was a war that the other side (non belivers) wanted to have asthey wanted the prophet dead. These terrorist attacks cannot be justified at all.
    thats one perspective - another is that the natives were faced with new invading force trying to take over and fought to save their own land ( sound familiar?)

    Islamic State claim they wanted to emulate the islamic caliphates ( ie invade all their neighbours and rule them under islamic law)
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    (Original post by missfats)
    :ahee::ahee::ahee::ahee:

    Continue to insult Afghan and Iraqi people.

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    If you look at the facts, it is true. They are both wealthier than 15 years ago, they both have higher average life expectancies (at birth) than 15 years ago. They also both have some semblance of democracy that they did not have 15 years ago, although of course the situation is still far from ideal in those countries. If things like democracy, prosperity, life expectancy, infant mortality, and education, mean little or nothing to you, I can understand your attitude, if not your position.

    By the way, this does not mean that I am necessarily of the view that military intervention by Western countries was correct or ideal.
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    (Original post by Rk2k14)
    I don't believe the Qu'ran tells Muslims to blow up children.
    If you are going to be that specific, then you are correct. However, in order for your defence to be valid, you need to demonstrate that they were specifically targetting children.

    However, the Quran does permit Muslims to fight against those who fight them, and ISIS specifically used the beginning of sura 59 as part of their justification.
    Whether you like it or not, they believe that Islam gives them justification and they have divine permission for their actions.

    The Quran is nothing if not contradictory and ambiguous, and people will find in there, whatever they are looking for.
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    (Original post by luminarychild)
    That is a very drastic perspective on islam you hold :wtf: and those killings were justified as it was a war that the other side (non belivers) wanted to have asthey wanted the prophet dead. These terrorist attacks cannot be justified at all.
    Actually, terrorism and genocide is never justified. They are insults to human dignity.

    The "killings" were threatened against all non-believers (and heretics), even in peacetime.
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    (Original post by QE2)
    If you are going to be that specific, then you are correct. However, in order for your defence to be valid, you need to demonstrate that they were specifically targetting children.

    However, the Quran does permit Muslims to fight against those who fight them, and ISIS specifically used the beginning of sura 59 as part of their justification.
    Whether you like it or not, they believe that Islam gives them justification and they have divine permission for their actions.

    The Quran is nothing if not contradictory and ambiguous, and people will find in there, whatever they are looking for.
    Except those in the airports and train stations aren't fighting them... Therefore using sura 59 to justify their actions is invalid.
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    (Original post by TheThiefOfBagdad)
    Well, after the recent arrests some kind of trouble had to sprout up.
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    Religion of peas?
    If you're gonna make puns, at least do them a few days after not an hour or so after. Inconsiderate.
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    (Original post by Menakshelatte)
    I am responsible for my own actions.
    I didn't say other people in Syria,palestine turkey do not care.

    explosion in ankara, and explosion in istanbul happened just about a week ago.
    WHERE IS BELGIUM? WHERE WAS BELGIUM?

    I care about ALL people. Unfortunately, this is not the views of many countries.
    for example Russia, who decides to bomb civil areas in syria.
    or America, who support Israels genocide.

    Today, Belgium is attacked, and wants us to unite.
    what a joke.


    That's true. The west and America&Canada&Australia take action. Because They are the strong one's
    Countries like Syria and Palestine are being attacked, because they are weak.
    How can they take action if they are weak?

    However countries like Belgium choose for which country to take action for.

    Your beloved western countries keep asking countries like syria,palestine and turkey to cooperate, so we can defeat ISIS.
    WHY?? when israel commits genocide, these beloved countries don't do anything to stop it. yet now, they want all countries to unite, to stop the terrorism that is affecting them.

    WHY should I feel for/cooperate with Belgium? Thousands of people are dying in palestine.and Syria. What is Belgium doing??

    Also, when they don't like syrian refugees, they suddenly start begging Turkey to take in every single syrian refugees, so that people like you(who live in the uk, france,Germany belgium etc.), won't be disturbed by their presence.

    And Turkey, palestine, syria etc. countries is doing nothing to help yeah? please.
    Helping refugees doesn't mean you are stopping terrorism. Spare me the emotional appeal. How many muslim countries responded adequately to the refugees crisis? How many arab countries helped? And that's their neighbours.

    See, I can respond with emotional loaded posts too.

    As I said. You don't have to care. You don't *have* to give consolation. Neither do Europeans when terror attacks hit the middle east.

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