Hey there! Sign in to join this conversationNew here? Join for free
    • Thread Starter
    Offline

    0
    ReputationRep:
    Would it be better to self-teach computer science rather than go to uni for it?
    And would you have the same job opportunities as a compsci degree holder?
    • Thread Starter
    Offline

    0
    ReputationRep:
    bump bu-bu-bump
    • Thread Starter
    Offline

    0
    ReputationRep:
    Bububububuuuuuuuuuuump XD


    Posted from TSR Mobile
    Offline

    12
    ReputationRep:
    (Original post by Jimin's Jams)
    Would it be better to self-teach computer science rather than go to uni for it?
    And would you have the same job opportunities as a compsci degree holder?
    If you have the capability and ability to learn programming then sure. However if you decide not to go to university at all then I don't think you'd have the knowledge even close to people who did the degree. Self learning computer science and doing some other degree like maths/physics/engineering will be better for you and improve your job prospects, however staying home and not going uni will be challenging as there are a lot of comp sci graduates already out there who will be competing with you for jobs. I personally have an interest in computer science but I decided not to do the degree, I now do engineering but I'm always programming or learning new programming related stuff. I've currently even got an internship at Google for software engineering and I know some comp sci graduates who got rejected. On average staying home and not going to uni will disadvantage you job wise but if you're talented and work hard enough you could make it to the top jobs or become a freelancer.

    Why don't you want to do the degree though?


    Posted from my phone, excuse my typo's
    Offline

    1
    ReputationRep:
    (Original post by bigboateng_)
    If you have the capability and ability to learn programming then sure.

    Why don't you want to do the degree though?


    Posted from my phone, excuse my typo's
    Brilliant post, +1 for each point made
    • TSR Support Team
    Offline

    20
    ReputationRep:
    TSR Support Team
    (Original post by bigboateng_)
    If you have the capability and ability to learn programming then sure. However if you decide not to go to university at all then I don't think you'd have the knowledge even close to people who did the degree. Self learning computer science and doing some other degree like maths/physics/engineering will be better for you and improve your job prospects, however staying home and not going uni will be challenging as there are a lot of comp sci graduates already out there who will be competing with you for jobs. I personally have an interest in computer science but I decided not to do the degree, I now do engineering but I'm always programming or learning new programming related stuff. I've currently even got an internship at Google for software engineering and I know some comp sci graduates who got rejected. On average staying home and not going to uni will disadvantage you job wise but if you're talented and work hard enough you could make it to the top jobs or become a freelancer.

    Why don't you want to do the degree though?


    Posted from my phone, excuse my typo's
    Btw, you should update your LinkedIn to put 'Incoming STEP Intern at Google'.

    Posted from TSR Mobile
    • Thread Starter
    Offline

    0
    ReputationRep:
    (Original post by bigboateng_)
    If you have the capability and ability to learn programming then sure. However if you decide not to go to university at all then I don't think you'd have the knowledge even close to people who did the degree. Self learning computer science and doing some other degree like maths/physics/engineering will be better for you and improve your job prospects, however staying home and not going uni will be challenging as there are a lot of comp sci graduates already out there who will be competing with you for jobs. I personally have an interest in computer science but I decided not to do the degree, I now do engineering but I'm always programming or learning new programming related stuff. I've currently even got an internship at Google for software engineering and I know some comp sci graduates who got rejected. On average staying home and not going to uni will disadvantage you job wise but if you're talented and work hard enough you could make it to the top jobs or become a freelancer.

    Why don't you want to do the degree though?


    Posted from my phone, excuse my typo's
    I'm just thinking is it really worth 27k+? Especially with the boundless resources that are available everywhere. Also, being an industry that's constantly changing aren't we all going to have to teach our selves eventually in order to stay on trend?
    If you're as proficient and have the skills and reputation equivalent to that of your degree holder counterpart and can prove it through your portfolio, wouldn't it make you more employable?



    Posted from TSR Mobile
    • Thread Starter
    Offline

    0
    ReputationRep:
    Oh and doing another degree whilst studying CS on the side would be way too hectic and I'd most likely fail in both.

    So what you're basically saying is just get any degree. You can teach yourself CS but the piece of paper is what'll get you employed.


    Posted from TSR Mobile
    • TSR Support Team
    Offline

    20
    ReputationRep:
    TSR Support Team
    (Original post by Jimin's Jams)
    Oh and doing another degree whilst studying CS on the side would be way too hectic and I'd most likely fail in both.

    So what you're basically saying is just get any degree. You can teach yourself CS but the piece of paper is what'll get you employed.


    Posted from TSR Mobile
    Pretty much.

    But I'd modify that: piece of paper (2:1 or above) + personal projects + internships.

    Posted from TSR Mobile
    Offline

    14
    ReputationRep:
    Programming has traditionally been much easier to succeed in without formal training than for instance law or accounting. This is changing a little now that computer science degrees are widely available, but I think it is still relatively easily to get work without one. On the other hand, a good computer science degree will be useful if you want to work in an area that requires specialist skills you can only get through a degree, or for a very popular company like Google.
    Offline

    12
    ReputationRep:
    (Original post by Jimin's Jams)
    I'm just thinking is it really worth 27k+? Especially with the boundless resources that are available everywhere. Also, being an industry that's constantly changing aren't we all going to have to teach our selves eventually in order to stay on trend?
    If you're as proficient and have the skills and reputation equivalent to that of your degree holder counterpart and can prove it through your portfolio, wouldn't it make you more employable?



    Posted from TSR Mobile
    Yes the industry change but doesnt mean your CS degree is useless, if tomorrow someone develops a language for making websites more efficiently, it doesnt mean the javascript you know is obsolete as whatever new programming language it is, its going to have the same old programming principles such as variables, arrays, OOP, etc. Also programming makes up like 40% of CS, so you will have no problem learning programming online but you will not get as much knowledge on other key concepts such as efficiency, memory management and as deep as artificial intelligence, data mining etc, going to uni will introduce you to areas you never know existed. I personally dont do CS so cant tell you about all the stuff there is.

    Oh and doing another degree whilst studying CS on the side would be way too hectic and I'd most likely fail in both.
    Of course you will not be doing a 'full' CS degree on the side, if you study engineering for example electrical, you will be tauht a lot of computer science as well as doing electrical engineering stuff, thats what I was suggesting. A degree which will allow you/teach you programming, such as engineering/maths/physics.
    Offline

    12
    ReputationRep:
    (Original post by Princepieman)
    Btw, you should update your LinkedIn to put 'Incoming STEP Intern at Google'.

    Posted from TSR Mobile
    haha, I rarely use LinkedIn though
    Offline

    11
    ReputationRep:
    (Original post by Jimin's Jams)
    I'm just thinking is it really worth 27k+? Especially with the boundless resources that are available everywhere. Also, being an industry that's constantly changing aren't we all going to have to teach our selves eventually in order to stay on trend?
    If you're as proficient and have the skills and reputation equivalent to that of your degree holder counterpart and can prove it through your portfolio, wouldn't it make you more employable?



    Posted from TSR Mobile
    The whole point of a cs degree is to be able to allow you to adapt to changes in programming languages rather than learn the whole thing over and over again. But yeah, it is possible to self teach with the resources available online but does require a lot of commitment.
 
 
 
  • See more of what you like on The Student Room

    You can personalise what you see on TSR. Tell us a little about yourself to get started.

  • Poll
    Brussels sprouts
  • See more of what you like on The Student Room

    You can personalise what you see on TSR. Tell us a little about yourself to get started.

  • The Student Room, Get Revising and Marked by Teachers are trading names of The Student Room Group Ltd.

    Register Number: 04666380 (England and Wales), VAT No. 806 8067 22 Registered Office: International House, Queens Road, Brighton, BN1 3XE

    Quick reply
    Reputation gems: You get these gems as you gain rep from other members for making good contributions and giving helpful advice.